South Carolina aiming to be ObamaCare nullification model.
As it becomes increasingly apparent that ObamaCare is going to be even more of a nightmare than most people imagined, a certain dread has set in. It’s like this giant tsunami wave is coming toward us and we’re like deer caught in headlights…there seems to be absolutely nothing we can do to escape it.
But maybe, just maybe, there is, especially if you live in a red state. The South Carolina House of Representatives recently passed the “South Carolina Freedom of Health Care Protection Act” by a 65-34 vote, and now it’s on to the Republican-controlled South Carolina Senate. (That may be the first time I’ve ever used “South Carolina” three times in one sentence.)
The bill, if passed by the Senate, would then need the signature of South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley to become law. The essence of this bill is that it would for all practical purposes nullify ObamaCare within South Carolina. The bill prohibits agencies, officers and employees of the state from implementing any provisions of the Affordable Care Act, leaving that potential implementation in the hands of a federal government which lacks the resources and personnel to carry out the programs it mandates, according to the Daily Caller.
The sponsor of the bill, Senator Tom Davis, said that Congress can pass laws, but can’t compel states to utilize their treasury or personnel to implement those federal laws. Two additional provisions to the bill that are being considered are outlawing Medicaid expansion and suspending the licenses of insurers who receive Affordable Care Act subsidies.
If South Carolina passes this bill and the end result is the nullification of ObamaCare in that state, other states are sure to follow. Legislators from Tennessee and Oklahoma are reportedly working on similar bills and awaiting the South Carolina results.
Do you think this South Carolina model could be the answer for people and businesses desperately trying to avoid the train wreck that ObamaCare is rapidly becoming? If South Carolina is successful, what do you think are the odds of your state following suit?
If SC passes this law, and I hope they do, we won’t know the results of their action for years. The issue will work its way up to the SpCt (can’t use two different SC’s), and even then might end up changed by Congress. Any state govt’s awaiting the results of SC’s actions just don’t want to engage on the issue.
I have no chance of getting my state to do anything even close. Our governor worships at the feet of Obama. I live in California
I agree wth you Mary. My so called governor I know has his sights on the great white house, so he will do ALL he can to fight against S.C.. I live in the other California, NEW YORK!
I hope the pass in S.C. maybe the other states will follow.
You also have the main supporter of Obamacare,
that stupid Pelosi.
I won’t believe it until it’s official, then I still might be skeptical. When the Federal Government pulls all the funding incentives (or threatens to) South Carolina will yield. It’s the same in every State. Federal funding guarantees States compliance and enforcement of Federal regulations, laws and any other Unconstitutional act they can impose… As clear as crystal. Money. Maryland passed a motorcycle helmet law in 1997 (give or take). 25,000 motorcyclists protested in Annapolis. Yet the Federal government said “Pass it or we take your funds for roads away”… Yeah, South Carolina will wimp out…
Hate to say it, but you’re probably right. Only way I see to stop the train wreck would be for Congress to defund this Obamanation.
The IRS will still be able to collect from the residents. With even the bill passing.
In a capitalist society like ours, the bridge separating the wealthy and poor widens at escalating speed as time goes on. A larger proportion of people, both at the poverty end of the scale and lower income, compared with middle and upper class inevitably happens. Those of us fortunate to exist above the lower end financially don’t realize that the the people who have nothing still have nothing. For them they see everyone else (relatively) able to afford symbols of success like cellphones, a car, adequate healthcare but nothing changes for them.
I oppose virtually everything iI find out about President Obama and his desires for America. But, even as an independent conservative I believe healthcare should not be just another commodity purchased by those who can afford it. Too many people who cannot afford it at any price. SO, I aplaud the effort to provide universal healthcare. Yet, the AFA was/is a misguided attempt. I hope the American people, especially those with healthcare insurance, will not close the door for a different healthcare system in the near future. This SHOULD be a non-partisan issue.
DEMs wanted it, DEMs voted it into law, a DEM PotUS signed it. If Red States can get out from under it – FANTASTIC!! Shove it off on the DEM states that ‘want’ it and let them suffer until they cry, “UNCLE!”
Give me Ten Commandments to convict me of my sin.
Give me the HolyGhost thru Jesus Christ to walk in Gods ways.
Give me Faith so I will trust that God will keep me healthy.
Everything is Free from him, no hidden agendas like the wickedness of men and senators,congressman,and rulers of this dark age.
it is better to trust in the Lord than to put confidence in man,Its is better to trust in the Lord than to put confidence in princes.
Those who refuse to do what is just and right God himself quickly takes care of.
Lets quit handing over power to the wicked, repent of our many sins and put ourselfs in Jesus’s hands.
it is written he will heal our souls and restore our land.But the folly of man is pride.
Go ahead and trust in your man made health care.
As surely as these words are given all who read this are going to die someday.
We are born surely we will die.
Jesus said he is the Way the Truth and the Life.
Sam,
I believe. I believe that the words of wisdom conveyed in your post are Truth.
I believe that if the State of South Carolina follows through with the aforementioned direction of legislation and is successful; other States will follow.
I believe this is the correct direction and I pray for some God given common sense to prevail.
The eyes of the entire Country are on your State and its elected officials.
I believe in America. I believe it is possible to return to the status of the greatest Nation of this World !
Lastly, I believe that We the People of these United States must pray for preservation of The Constitution.
Thanks for your time and effort; I believe more of US must speak more of the Truth. May you be happy and well.
Semper Fi until I die !
Andy S.
Not sure how KY would vote to do this. Our current Gov (D) likes Obamacare, and has gone out of his way to push it.
Too many democrats have been Gruberized. Most of us that opposed the ACA did so based on the President and others having to lie about it, the costs of it, and the benefits or lack thereof. Since I didn’t vote for Obama, just another person with glitz and no substance. He clearly lacked accomplishments and he sets a poor example of lawless behavior. He likes to make claims and never offers a work plan of action to realize these claims. He did the same thing as a community organizer. A whole lot of talk and commotion to get people jobs and then realized during the process of interviewing people to understand what skills were transferable came up empty handed. These were the people that were laid off when a Chicago steel company closed. He did manage to talk an unemployment agency into opening an office in the community.
You talk about the poor. How many get out of bed in the morning and look for a job. How many write resumes, fill out job applications, and arrange for job interviews. How many poor women keep popping out kids just to get more government subsidies. How many try to improve their skills and capabilities by attending classes to improve their skills and become more educated. Quit whining. Pull your pants up, groom yourself and make this new years goal to find a job that supports your family livelihood.
Every president since Harry Truman has tried to get universal health care for the people of America. President Obama finally got it and people like you want to destroy it. The Republican Governor and Legislature in North Carolina have refused to accept Medicaid resulting in an estimated 400 poor people in NC dying for lack of health care. I know that this doesn’t matter to the wealthy Republicans. Another result of refusing Medicaid is the loss of thousands of jobs and the closing of at least one hospital. The affordable care act provides comprehensive health care to people on an ability to pay basis. The folks making 6 figure salaries may be paying a little more while people making minimum wages pay substantially less. I know that the wealthy don’t care about the poor. They talk the Christian talk but they sure don’t walk the Christian walk. You know Jesus was a Democrat (he took care of the poor). By the way, the United States is the only wealthy nation in the world that just now getting universal health care. Another fact is that catastrophic health problems are the number one cause of bankruptcy in America. I am sure your millionaire friends don’t care. Have a great day!
With all the secrecy and and deception that surrounds and abounds AFA, why would any free thinking, intelligent individual subscribe to it. I do not buy the sob story about the alleged 400 folks in NC dying for lack of proper health care. I do know how people lost health care plans, lost jobs, or have had hours cut so their employers would NOT have to provide health benefits. I am also aware of those in the private sector who are forced to comply with AFA mandates and purchase said insurance, or they will be hit with fines as per Obamacare.I also am aware of how the cost to carry over 47 million on the government dole has cost me more out of my pocket. I am not a six figured Republican, as it were. In fact, I earn less than 40m a year. I support myself and 2 kids. One works full time and contributes to the home financially, one is a college student who earmed substantial merit based funds to attend a local state school. Oh and here’s a bit more bad news for you, they are both under 25 and vote Republican and are of mixed race.
One more comment I need to add, or shall I say correction to your comment regarding Jesus and how He must have been a Democrat because he cared about the poor. From a statistical point of reference, you need to know that your democratic leaders made financial contributions to religious organizations that were less than mine. One need not look any further for a true definition of hypocrisy. It seems to me that Biden and Obama do not care to surrender 10% of their income. But it’s obvious you do. Oh, one final correction, but of utmost importance-Jesus Christ, Prince of Peace, would NEVER subscribe to a party who has promoted and encouraged and touted the killing of 57 million lives as a right that everyone should have to pay for. You see, He represents the truth outlined by His Father, not by Obama or any political party.Free will, accountability. Look into those two ideas. Then see if you can stop blaming others for all that is wrong with the world.
Well said, my dear. Having been forced into a single mom situation through divorce I can
relate to where you’re coming from.
Mr Ward- your comments are neither correct, nor gracious. Therefore, my response will merely give back to you what you deigned to write for others. Truman may have wanted universal healthcare; I don’t know, but I don’t care. Obama is not an American, and his lying, deceitful illegal tenure in office is an insult to the American people. Putting that aside (but holding that thought all the while), expressions such as ‘people like you’ are nothing but inflammatory and hateful generalizations against those with whom you have no ammo to fight! The costs of ACA were hidden, the extent of the misery caused was LIED ABOUT, and the ramrodding of the legislation, purely soviet-style.
So, what’s to like? NOTHING.
Now, to deconstruct your christophobic slurs, and shoddy insults against the ‘rich’ (whoever they may be). Jesus Christ was neither a democrat nor a republican. He was what folks on the left would call (bizarrely, since they seem to be so caucaphobic-i.e., racist themselves) a ‘racist for His People.’ [ Matt. 1:21, 15:24] Christ was a son of the tribe of Judah, of the nation of Judea, and one who clearly said ‘salvation comes from my people/land’ [John 4:22] (but Jesus was not a “Jew” as the modern parlance names it!).
Moreover, Christ healed only his own sick, and a fellow son of Adam with the Roman Centurion. He never left his nation, how own race, nor his own geography. In that, His approach was much like the ‘we take care of our own’ model that worked sufficiently well, when the US was racially homogenous, religiously unified, and culturally monogamous! Rather, it was the Pharisees, (those who crucified Him), using the ‘system’ along with the ‘career politicians’ (like Herod, Pilate, et al.) that were the ‘internationalists’ and ‘multiculturalists’ of their day- exactly like the ‘international bankers’ and ‘pagans’ of the modern era, whose desire is not to be christlike, but to act like despotic Emperors of the like of Nero and Caligula.
You are standing on a house of cards. Better to let the ‘rich’ care for the poor via organs of charity (churches, missions, etc.) among their own race/kind/folk, than to implement a failed Empire model, that stinks over in Europe, and has for some decades, than to import that sinful waste here in the USA!
Oh and I suppose you were one of the 12 Disciples that followed Jesus around? Perhaps you were Judas?
DO NOT CALL JESUS A DEMOCRAT because He would never stoop so low. He loved all peoples and tried to “teach” them a better life by showing them HOW TO ACHIEVE THAT BY WORKING — to fish and feed their families. This potus doesn’t teach anything but lies and deception. Do NOT COMPARE JESUS TO ANY DEMOCRAT because that is blasphemy. God knows what you say and is watching every move the manipulators are making to destroy our Christian based Country.
Perhaps you do not know the numerous Muslims sitting on potus’ cabinet…in extremely influential and powerful positions? Google the present cabinet and see how many are muslim – the exact opposite of our Christian teachings. Ever wonder WHY America hasn’t condemned Islam for ISIS? Think abt it! Too many muslims stirring the potus cauldron.
ObamaCausticcare was NOT initially implemented to help you or any American. It was implemented to destroy us FINANCIALLY…and it is doing just that. Have you a copy of that monstrocity? Have you read any of it. Are you familiar with the DEATH PANELS in the mandate? They are there and apply to anyone 72 years or older.
What age are you? Your parents? Your grandparents? According to obamaCAUSTICcare, any of you can be denied any medical treatment to extend your life once you are that age. They will let you die before giving you treatments to help you live. So how do you like obamaCausticcare now? This part of the mandate – which was illegally obtained by drafting it under a Commerce Clause, not having the Americsn people vote on it because, guess what, they would Not accept it as law – was drafted to remove the baby boomers (people who know our Constitution and respect our Laws).
Like I said earlier, Dems are the best manipulators of the truth on this earth…and JESUS WAS NOT A LYING LIBERAL. Once again, you blasphemed yourself by saying that. This War has changed sides. It’s now between you Libs and God. The last time I noticed any God reaction towards the Governing states is the latest weather storms hitting the East and the Capitol. .Not pleasant weather. Perhaps God is done with those who continually misuse His name to advance themselves…or try to remove His name from our money, Federal bldgs, Sports events, schools, Commencement Exercises, and our Military getting ready to put their lives on the line for us.
No Jesus was No democrat.He was much, much larger than that. Now that you have blasphemed Him…better ask for forgiveness for that and everything else you blindly follow the libs in. They live in a very unGodly world…except for Allah.
As for South Carolina, finally a state with brains. I have been blogging along with a multitude of other bloggers that each State must pass legislation that prohibits any Federal mandate on Health Care…just like South Carolina is doing. If their State law passes and the governor signs it, it will be the beginning of the end of obamaCAUSTICcare, which is the best thing for our Country.
We need good health care for all our people, poor and rich alike. The Health Mandate was drafted for a different reason, not to help Americans, but to HURT THEM FINANCIALLY…and it has proven to do just that. FYI: The poor can’t afford the charges to even sign up for this albatross around every American’s neck…so what good is it if it can’t help the people it supposedly was drafted for? Because it was never meant to help anyone – just financially destroy our Country!!
Want to see America strong again? DO NOT VOTE IN ANY LIBERALS TO OUR FEDERAL GOVT…EVER. They are WHY our Country is failing – unrealistic policies that destroy our Christian foundations and traditions…Not good for America or Americans! We are the laughing stock of the World and the Lib’s potus put us there!
you have absolutely “NAILED IT.” Now let’s ALL working Americans GET OUT AND VOTE.
What a load of CRAP! Keep shoveling you lies!! Jesus was no democ-rat. And democ-rats were the ones who owned most of the SLAVES everyone continues to whine about. Of course the muslims did first. And after they conquered and enslaved the blacks, they tried to conquer christianity. Hence the Crusades. Maybe you believe O’bamy’s words on that too! Go peddle you lies and opinions to your friends. SO if you’re a Christian, go read. If you’re a muslim, it makes sense. Universal healthcare doesn’t work. ANYWHERE! Except maybe if Norway has it. They got their stuff together.
If it’s so good why are polite extent from ACA!
If you think ACA is universal you need to wake up. When has a government ever taken over an industry and made it better and universal? What about the “death” committees that will decide whether or not your grandma and grandpa live or die? Is that universal? It is total socialist BS.
Jesus was NOT a dem!!! He was a real humanitarian who loved ALL people. Leave your stinking political affiliation out of his life, teachings and actions.
From conversations of, WH spokesmen: Stuart paddasso, CIA: Jim Garrow, Dave Hodges./
Jim said that he’d heard all that and said that you might as well throw in Guillotines. Jim Garrow went on to explain that under the E section for ‘Legal Interventions’ in the World Health Organization’s International Classifications for Diseases (ICD) and nomenclatures, there is a section ICD E978, under legal execution. This section has been expanded to include beheading or decapitation.
(By the way, I think that Jim is referring to version of the ICD that is coming out in 2015 – ICD-11.)
Jim then asked what religious group Dave knew that likes to decapitate people. The answer, of course, was the Muslims.
Garrow then dropped another bombshell. Beheading is included in Obamacare.
White House spokesmen say that several designs for the new devices have been submitted,and have decided on a version constructed by the Halliburton Corporation.
Retired FBI agent Stuart Padasso told Fox News that the Department of Justice claims that using guillotines would prevent botched executions by lethal injection and would “cause the new influx of refugees from the Middle East to feel more at home.”
Padasso says these claims are bogus.
“I was told that these new guillotines would be much more efficient,”Padasso said,”and that with many more Muslims entering the Country it would be necessary to provide them with Sharia friendly methods of law enforcement and punishment.I’m not buying it.”
Jim Garrow, he’s a profoundly faithful follower of Jesus Christ and a 45 year veteran of deep-cover field operations for the CIA. He gave an interview just a week ago that will chill you to the bone.
Obama – Obama is a Manchurian Candidate funded by Saudi Arabia (and who-knows-who-else) and has been tasked with the destruction of America as a world power.,.,.,….
Doesnt sound like Obamacare is actually concerned of your best interests….
if IRS can ” NOT ” have OBcare , they are our employees — then how can we be forced to accept it ??
universal health care is not the problem, it all the fine print you haven’t read that hurt middle class working people. Check what they want to take from what your Parents leave for you in the will.
probably 90% – then they tax you on the rest as “income.”
We have to learn from the far left as they are so effective: no law is settled law
If you don’t like a law, flaunt it and do what
you want anyway, i.e. the implementation
Obamacare, the existence of sanctuary
cities, the persecution of gun owners in
“gun free” cities like Chicago, etc.
Why should Americans be subject to the contract of the law while her enemies are not?
If we have to break it to save the country, lets break it.
Tea Party activists in Texas are working to put the nullification of The (un) Affordable Care Act on the ballot for the fall elections. According to the Constitution (10th Amendment) States may do this. It would be great if States would not accept federal aid. The best hope of doing without Washington handouts is to pass the Fair Tax Plan and go to a national sales tax. It provides for the states to collect the sales taxes (as they are already doing) and send only money to Washington for the basic powers of the Federal Government provided by the Constitution. It would get rid of the IRS and remove much of the corruption of Washington based on tax lobbing. It would also be a great boon to the economy. We do not have a state income tax in Texas, thus we have a much better economy that most states.
And the right to secede from this so-called “Union.” The day may come again when we find ourselves in a civil war and then I’m moving to Texas. Seems to me they’ve got it right.
My only comment today: PRAYER, is the MOST EFFECTIVE weapon we have to fight against the forces of evil that have Now taken over our COUNTRY!
BUT; along with the Prayer; TRUE REPENTANCE of our own SINS, must be a part of it, as well!
This Nation, as a whole, has stood by for decades, pushing GOD out of our lives, and allowing EVIL to move in and rule!
We only have ourselves to blame! We must be held ACCOUNTABLE for our sins, that is why GOD has allowed these things to happen to us! Remember after 9/11; how nearly the whole Country once again started going to church, loving one another, and letting GOD into their lives?!? Too Bad, it didn’t stick, for most!
That’s why GOD says in HIS word: “If MY PEOPLE, which are called by MY NAME, shall Humble themselves, and PRAY.and seek MY FACE, AND TURN (Repent) from their Wicked Ways; THEN will I hear from Heaven, and will Firgive their sin, and I WILL HEAL THEIR LAND!” 2nd CHRON. 7:14
Several states already passed laws nullifying Obamacare prior to it’s vote in the Senate. Idaho was the first State to pass a Health Care Freedom Act 3 days prior to the Senate vote on Obamacare. The supreme court also specifically stated that the FEDS cannot yank existing funding if states refused to comply.
If they pass this.. I’ll be moving to South Carolina! Virginia is too purple to ever get this passed.
Boy you are right there. Lived nearly all my life in VA; now I’m ashamed to admit it.
While everything stated above is true, it is not as evident to the American people as portrayed above. More needs to be done to persuade the Blue states and less to inflame the Red states
After this president and his ex-secretary of state is thoroughly investigated about the Benghazi slaughter, Americans will finally see the character that many have elected into office…or should I say, “LACK” of character. Once the truth comes out regarding “dereliction of duties” — both bho and hillary are guilty of — it will be much easier to convict these evil, egocentric players of neglecting their duties (which is treasonable) and sentence them to prison until they are old and grey. Hillary is already there and bho is turning grey faster these days. Perhaps being president isn’t what he thought it would be. So what if he has numerous black marks against his term…he doesn’t care.
The one thing he has done is destroy any other black man/woman from trying to be President for a very long time.
As for hillary running for President…that’s a laugh! After the Benghazi Massacre and her refusing to identify that Guerilla faction as “terrorists” who recently kidnapped 300 young girls, etc., her reputation has been slam dunked into the outhouse hole. No women (or men) I know would ever vote for someone that refused to listen to the cries for help from our Libyan Ambassador…just ignored his pleas “weeks in advance of the slaughter” and walked away. What was so important that couldn’t wait until she talked with the Ambassador about his situation…nothing was more important at that point, but she totally ignored his pleas. No, this woman is evil to the core and criminally driven…NOT PRESIDENTIAL MATERIAL NOW OR EVER!
So with bho indicted and hillary indicted, removing obamacausticcare should be relatively easy. Believe me, any efforts made by the states, cities, etc. to remove this cancer would be welcomed enthusiastically. No matter what it takes, the States would jump at this opportunity to kiss this disaster “Good bye” and get back to mending the disruption bho’s destructive legislation and regulations have caused. America will once again heal itself as she entombs the cancerman and senile woman that caused this to happen.
We are fighters and our Country is worth fighting for! Our Founding Fathers fought tirelessly to bring “Freedom of Choice” to our lands. Why should we stand by uselessly and let one man take all of that from us. We won’t…we will fight back legally and if that doesn’t work, we’ll be more creative to do what needs to be done! That’s the American way!!!
This seems like a good way to go; however, as each state opts out of Obamacare, due to nullification (and it will start with the red states), the Feds will also pull their funds from each of those states in retaliation and re-distribute it to the very blue states who will continue to back the AFA. The Feds will give excuse after excuse, and stall and stall as is the modus operandi of this administration. Our federal taxes will continue to rise due to the incompetent gutlessness of the Repubs, and those blue states will be getting a much larger portion of the federal pie. This will result in a greater separation of the American people until civil war begins. The blue states will be forever without liberty, but at least the red states will find a way to prosper. This is the plan of these communists.
You are already too late. The separation of states has and is already occuring. The strong states will survive while the weaker states will get help from the stronger states. If you haven’t noticed. AMERICA IS FLOUNDERING BECAUSE OF BAD LEGISLATION EMANATING FROM THE WHITE HOUSE AND SENATE. No wonder our Nation is struggling! Everything that comes out of this administration is filthy with taxes and regulations…even obamacausticcare is riddled with them. In fact obamacare was born out of a Commerce Clause in the Constitution because bho knew the People would never accept his folly nor would Congress pass it. Then wonderwoman pelosi screamed at Congress to “sign it and read it later”…the most idiotic and stupid statement of the Century! If the States are smart enough, they should all withdraw at one time from this useless piece of trash called the health mandate. The smart ones are doing this. Let’s hope the rest find some brains in their governments to follow suit. If not, a revolt may happen, but only after the strong States with principals and knowledge finally inform and instruct the lesser intelligent states HOW to remove the cancer known as the health mandate. FYI: Most of the strong states are Conservative, moral and principaled 2nd Amendment supporters. So who do you think would win a skirmish? Yes, the feds would step in I’m sure, but after what they have done to our Military personnel, I would expect over half of the U.S. forces would join in on the the Strong States fight.
I understand new recruits are being “conditioned” to the fact that one day they may have to bear arms against their own countrymen. Why do you think the military is being revamped – getting rid of those they think may balk at this. Why are detainment camps being secretly set up and FEMA is buying as much food staples as they can from anyone that will sell to them? There’s a lot going on that we Americans DON’T know about. Open your eyes America; free handouts always come with a price.