What are the top benefits of generating off-grid power using a system like Power4Patriots?
Video #1 from the Top 10 Questions From Customers Considering or Implementing Power4Patriots
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Allen: Well let’s dive right in with question number one and this is actually one of the most popular questions that we get, from folks who are considering Power4Patriots. And the question is: what are the top benefits of generating an off grid power using a system like Power4Patriots? So can you talk about some of the top benefits of generating off-grid power Kriss?
Kriss: Yeah, there is a lot of them it is like if I start to ramble, just cut me off because this is one of my favorite thing to talk about. But I think the biggest one for me and my wife is just the freedom and the sense of independence that it gives us knowing that, we are generating our own power using the sun and the wind and renewable means or doing it on our own we are not dependent on being power start of thing. We are not dependant on a grid, we are not really dependant on much of anything.
We are, I think both politically and just emotionally my wife and I we are just very much independent, we are really about doing things on our own making our own life. We really kind of feel like that is the American life. And so that sense of freedom and just sort of do-it-yourself nature is what is really cool and we feel like that we are unique, we were not part of, you know, the rat race or, you know, the system or any of this that we are living on our own, we are living by our own means. That is the biggest benefit for me.
Then you get in to all the other stuff and actually we don’t have a power bill every month.[laughs] I sort of forget about that, I have some real estate rentals in a city nearby and of course the tenants pay the power bill, but they talked to me about some of this power bills are really 300 or 400 dollars during the summer for air conditioning expenses and I talk to customers all the time. Like I talked to a lady just on Friday afternoon that she was having 800 dollar power bill. We just don’t have a power bill. There is just, it is not that we have a low power bill, we just don’t have one.
So that is really nice. Obviously, we don’t have to worry about black outs and brown outs and that is a huge deal you know we are setting all this temperature records for summer. All of us in fact including the whole of it, we live in the mountains but it is still then record setting key. And this black outs and brown outs that are happening I mean last week there were 3 million people without power, and these are big you know big metropolitan areas, this isn’t in the middle of nowhere, this is like Virginia and Maryland and places where you would think that the infrastructure would be pretty well done.
But that just going to give more and more common. We are stressing this power grid which really was designed in the 50s, to its max It is not designed to take these huge loads and to, this big pick up, like they are all just firing up at the same time. All of depends in it. And that load just stressing the heck out of the grid and you are just going to get black outs. The problem with that is the fact that the power company doesn’t give you a lot of choice, you don’t get to choose the power company it is not like phone, or the internet company or even your cable TV or something, you are pretty much stuck with the power company.
The fact that they hold your power in their hands and they are really not doing a very good job about, generating it and distributing it. We don’t really worry about any of that and we are so in a little problem with how we live and all of that and we decide to make it our mission and our career to help other people do it too.
Allen: Man, that is awesome, you know as you were talking I wrote down some of the things you said that are the top benefits for you and for most folks. And they really, and working that means a lot from prospective customers for powerful patriots that sounds right on. You know number one is really the sense of self reliance, the ability not to be tighten to the Government or the big energy – really to do this yourself, you know number two everybody is allowed to save money the fact that you don’t have a power bill every month is amazing.
Kriss: Pretty cool.
Allen: Yeah, that is pretty cool and we can certainly all use that money for something else. You know number three, being able to protect your home and not worry about black outs and brown outs and these natural disasters. I mean you are right you just pick up the newspaper it is unbelievable you know whether it is a disaster knocking out power, or rolling brown outs in Texas during the summer, this seems to be something that is just going to continue.
I was wondering one thing that we hear a little bit of too, you know when people start to generate their own off grade power, you know they get one of a good feeling of being one of the good guys. You know somebody who has taken care of their own business and you know the power isn’t polluting anything and you know that is kind of a nice side benefit too right?
Kriss: Absolutely the fact that you are not contributing to bad air and you know the way that we generate power in this country it is mostly coal, and I was actually the coal mining business for a long time. And it generates pollution in a lot of different ways so, we don’t worry about our home doing that anymore; the clean energy and the fact that these solar panels are going to be around for 30 years. (that is the life span of a typical solar panel and the wind generator will probably get 15 years out of it).
So you know it is not like we are going to worry about what are we doing next year for power. We are pretty much set, if any, we will expand our system here and there which is very possible with some of the things that I love but the most part that we have said, it is clean and easy enough on the conscience.
Allen: Yeah, which is a nice benefit on top of all the other ones you just mentioned that is cool. Hey Kriss before we go on to the next question why don’t we ask a follow up question, you mentioned you are off the grid, we are doing this video from your home office is that right?
Kriss: That is right -I’m in my home office now.
Allen: So this laptop is powered by your off grid system?
Kriss: Absolutely- everything we have we work from home and everything we have is powered, so our business is powered from the solar panels and the wind and our personal lives is everything here.
Allen: Man, that is so cool, so how about that folks, we are doing an interview over with a power of the internet talking to Kriss whose is supplying all of his own power for his computer, his house, his internet connection –that is pretty cool.
Kriss: Okay.
Allen: Okay, sorry I just think that it so neat, and really, a lot of folks who are Power4Patriots, you are kind of a proud example of somebody who has really made it, so that is awesome.
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Watch the next video in the series: Can I use my Power4Patriots system to complement and back-up my existing connection to the conventional power grid, or does it replace that?
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hi i am new to learning about making my own eletric can i sell my extra energy back to the eletric company?
Hello,could you possibly give me estament what it would cost me to go off grid? We live in Ga. And about to build 26 by 8 foot tiny house. My insulation on walls will be 6 inches of foam board roof the same,on inside between studs I am using r38 insulation. Also will be spary foaming bottom of trailer. Any advice would be greatly appreciated… Thanks Da Knights
Thinking about making my own solar panels. Where’s a good place to buy the cells?
There are lots of great places to buy – there are honestly not a ton of places that actually manufacture cells, so you’re really looking for someplace with good pricing, has knowledge, and won’t sell you a whole box of broken cells. I’ve worked with, and trust Kriss at spheralsolar.com. But making buddies with someone local gives you the added benefit of someone who knows the local ordinances and can answer questions.
I just realized a comparison with the question, “how long will it take before I can get a return on my investment?” My vehicle is paid off, and I use $40 a week in gasoline. If you are like me and thought of buying a new car, you have to ask yourself the same question. I have been thinking about a hybrid or electric car since I don’t drive much. I’ll save about $160 a month in fuel, but gain maybe $350 with the new payment and insurance. Much like solar, when you do reach that payoff, the rest of your lifetime, and the system you pass on, will be virtually free, minus occasional maintenance and replacement of batteries!
Hi;
1.I am wondering how effective solar and wind power is for those of us located in Northern Ontario Canada where we have very cold winters (-40F) and less sun in the winters with hot humid summers (102F).
2.Can I build a house with being off the grid without breaking the budget? I have a limited budget and am willing to go off the grid if it is profitable. I am 60 year old female who has enough money to build a small home with a heat/cooling source in the $10-15,000 range — would the off the grid solar be worthwhile for me or a supplemental hear source be better. Keep in mind where I live.
3. Since I have not built a house as I am trying to avoid this hassle and buy a house with some land, if a house becomes available is it expensive to add supplemental solar and or go off the grid completely with full solar/wind power?
4. Do you have sources to purchase solar/wind equipment in Ontario Canada?
5. How long does it take to pay back the investment?
The above questions may seem similiar but they are not.
Thank you in advance for replying.
I would strongly suggest you look into Monolithic Domes if you want to build your home in Canada.
All benefits require investment. The Power4Patriots method just trades in time and skill investment for material cost investment. If you have more time and more skills you can further lower your fiscal costs. Only you can look at your resources and current costs to do the analysis.
Living off the Grid is a great idea. However, I have very limited money I can invest. What do you suggest for the maximun results with the least amount of investment? Whatwould be the cost for this? I am sure that I am not the only one with this type of question. I live in Wisconsin, have farmland nearme(fields for crops), trees, nearby homes, and near the bottom of the low land. Hope this helps answer my questions.
Kelly VB
That cant be true!
You have only 1300 watts plus 400 watts??? you can hardly DO S**T with that. Theres NO WAY you could be completly off the grid, unless u live in a 10 by 12 trailer Did i hear that wrong? BTW I did buy this system, havent got the materials yet. And also from the prices for all the stuff I’ve seen Its so expensive I dont see how anyone expept a really wealthy person can afford this. I must hace missed something?????
Hi. Great video. Is it alright to show this video to others that are interested in creating their own power? I purchased the books and program CD’s, so I am able to see this video, but can others that have not purchased the system watch these as well? Thanks for this!
Being off the Grid is really great and not having a power bill each month is nice too but what is the price to get that way (initial investment) and what is the break-even point or pay back. At some time or another you have paid for your equipment and then you start to realize a cost savings monthly. But HOW long is that pay back time…….?
I have installed a wind charger down at my lake. For 5yrs. now my (lake box) has produced 12vdc power with a marine deep cycle batt. and 5watt solar panel. This has allowed me to have a car stereo, a 100watt spot light,a neon light over my picnic table, plus other lights, a cig lighter, and a CB radio for fun. I bought power4patiots and built my first wind charger to beef up the system ,plus learn. I built my wind charger out of a treadmill motor and its the basic same as the video teaches except I put a 6x6x16 post in and mounted the 1 1/4 pipe to it with uni-strutt and 1 1/4 straps. I have the motor shorted out for now, till I can get it wired into my lake box. I have been working more than usual and my time is limited. I am very excited to get it wired up. I have to install a charge controller and make some changes to my lake box. then I may buy 2 more marine deep cycle batts. Soon I will have all the parts to make my first solar panel @ 120watts or 3, 40watts. ect. This power system is only the beginning!
I still figure it out, when using an aircondition at hot summer…the start stop of a/c compressor how to stabilize the power flunctuation from starting point to lock rotor speed, and how about the other load that I need to use at the same time?
I have a 2 story log house in Wyoming County, Pennsylvania.
I need an estimate to make it solar. Do you recommend any
solar company for this area (North of Scranton).
Apart from the above, I should like to make my 206 foot deep
well solar so at least I can get water. Any suggestions?
Thank you. Cyril
You know when you start off in a wind power situation it becomes very clear you also need solar .It gets pricey fast .Depending on the situation the most you can hope for is about a 10% payback on your system after all is done .A recoup would be about 7 years more or less .After that it’s all gravy .If your old like me well it just becomes a game
.Some old people fish ,some crochet etc.Me well I play with wind power and getting into solar.I may not live long enough to realize a recoup but than if I die before it won’t matter any way lol.Its all a matter of dollars and cents. It’s pretty hard to create your own electric for what you can buy it for..It is for sure that for your investment in wind and solar you will eventually recoup and than its free except for maintenance.When the wind is blowing and your turbine sounds like a jet lol than your making money ,not much lol. There is one thing even with a small system when the power goes out you still have your lights and maybe enough for a tv. If you have a propane stove well there you go lights and food ,better than nothing lol.
I just watched the introduction and Question No 1 segments. Looking forward to the next 9 questions. I appreciate the effort you and Frank have put into this providing this technology to the masses. I thought I had copied your website down, but apparently I missed it. I tried http://www.fpheralfolar.com but got nothing. Would you email your web url to me at [email protected].
Thank you for your efforts.
tom
that’s SpheralSolar.com, Tom
I lived off grid for 5 years in Michigan but never really had enough power to do much. mine was basically for lights. The real question I have is what type of batteries does Kriss run? 12v, 6v, glass, lithium… All the batteries is the real expense in any of these systems. They wear out rather quickly and are god awful pricy! Once you get the system up and running it’s pretty neat. The maintenance and constant monitoring of the batteries is a constant chore too. If you get the good ones a lot of that goes away but again the cost. Enough of my rambling, so what type does he use?
What is the typical payback of a solar/wind system?
Couple of questions. 1) How do the solar power and the wind power work, when its night time, or cloudy, and when there is no wind? What about during storms, do the solar panels and/or the wind generator ever get damaged, or blown away or over? One more question. Are you familiar with the Johnson motor, and if so, does it actually work? Thanks.
LOL – Susan, start with the FAQ. http://www.power4patriots.com/support_technical.php Yes, stuff gets damaged. There are ways of designing your system so that if you lose one panel your system still works. I do not know the Johnson motor, but all of the those “creates more energy than it uses” things are bunk. That violates a basic law of physics.
If you move, can you take your solar and wind power apparatus with you?
400 watts at night how do you run fridge and freezer and lights
Being “Off the grid”.how do you connect to the internet?
John,
I don’t from home.
Even though we have the nice script to read along with Kriss, it would be better
if we didn’t have to strain to understand what he is saying when looking at the video.
Sounds like a bad microphone or bad acoustics in his office.
I have bought 4 Power4Patriot tapes. How much more info do I need? I was very exciting to hear about Kriss and his success. I am single senior on a fixed income. How affordable is this for me?
Going green is the only way to go. Totally green is the best.
I am interested in the wind power source, I have a small farm with a pond on it. During the summer I need to keep the water level up because of the fish. My pump is electric (220) which draws a lot of electricity, I want to power this pump by wind power. I need the answer to this. Thank you for your help.
You have several options. First is you should be able to afford a decent 110v pump. Harbor Freight tools has lots of motors and pumps. Other option is purchase a 220VAC inverter, but that may get expensive. Basic system will need solar if you do not have consistent wind. My suggestion is to go solar if you do not have steady wind. I would suggest a 90 watt panel, invertor and a couple of batteries. Hope that helps
I am an older lady and this may sound like a stupid queston and my reasoning is this just because I have electricity doesn’t mean I will have internet with out the source .Do you pay for the internet servicer or things like cable tv .?
Congratulations to you Kriss! You have listed every good reason that I want to go green. I’m looking forward to doing business with your company.
Does this new system you are promoting work in Europe where the Voltage is 220 Volt rather than 110 like in the States? All our appliances and light bulbs here in Spain and the rest of Europe are on 220 Volt.
Looking forward to hearing from you,
Rolf
Rolf,
Of course! You just need an inverter that’s designed for the 220 system. You might choose to get your components locally to help avoid issues.
Sounds almost too good to be true! I’m an 89 yr. old widow but I’m counting on my son-in-law, (who lives next door) to help me. We live out in the country.
Too much redundancy… guy just likes to hear himself talk. needs to get to the point and to get others to say what he has already expressed several times. he already sold his product now needs to get to the point and just give helpful info……d
I love you guys, i want to learn more!!! I do believe in what you are saying! Let spread it out to the most people we can!!! HONESTLY THANK YOU !!! I will look out for the EMP studys and info a bit later. THANKS AGAIN!!!
Hi, Will I have to ask the City of El Paso for permission to set up my off-grid power?
My power bills are not so high, but that doesn’t mean I am happy to be billed as much as I am. When I went on a tour of Pennsylvania some years ago, I envied the Amish lifestyle – I was blown away thinking how much money they were saving by not being part of the ‘grid’ – no power bills, no water bills, no property taxes, etc. And it showed – they all had beautiful huge homes.
NICE! Its encouraging to hear this. Im looking for me and my family to be more free and save some money as well! Thanx Kriss and P4P!!!
I order the Power4Patriots system two days ago and i like what i saw in the video.
Hi Frank: That’s all very cool but what does it cost for a off grid system? And it looks like Ihave to join Vimeo to see the videos thx Ken
I am a do it myself kind of guy on a very limited budget, and with a system like yours what kind of time frame any ideas?
very good stuff, Thanks again.
Jettie
Can’t wait to hear the other 9 questions.
Just started looking at videos and others comments. The sound is a little off. Not real clear, but will listen to the rest for a final assessment.
I purchased PV from a local vendor on lease contract for 20-25 yrs. Have you been asked if there is disconnection from there system to going on with off grid power? How long and how much will this be before I am fully on off grid power? I am not usually mechanically handy but I would like to try to learn how to make and install one. I also reallize there needs to be at least 33 panels for my power usage.
I hope the tapes I purchased are more clear than your first one free one here, I have a good system, but it sounds like you are in a barrell withg a deep voice. Your moderator comes out clear.
Seems too good to be true! I’ll be watching for your additional Q&A’s. I’m hoping there is still some help from governmental sources to help defray the costs of installing a system. You are an inspiration to me to obtain all of the info I can get on the systems, costs, savings, etc.etc. I’d love to know how it all wires together (schematics) for maximum efficiency, including batteries, generators, arrays, power meter, disconnects, etc. Thanks and best regards, Dale.
Frank I bought the Power4 Patriots for my daughter she has been a few years looking at solar and wind. will she beable to see these videos?
Yes, Margaret, these top 10 question videos are public.
Does the local power company or zoning or inspection department try to stop you from installing your own solar panels & or windmill towers or will they work with you? My county, Gaston county, tries to stop tax payers from doing anything without their personal permission, then charge you large amounts of building permits before you can do anything?
I have not seen much yet. I will watch the other video’s and let you know. Thanks Danny.
I am unable to view the free video series because my internet connection is too slow. I am using Hughesnet satelite service, is there anything you can do for me???
Hughesnet folks sometimes have better luck on the YouTube Channel: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLakmwUgMPqRMEKOul60mWihuL1k3zgKgS
Can’t wait to get started!!
Our location is one of sporadic air flows of 0 to 5 mph, seldom higher and many days of heavy cloud cover. I’m thinking our location would demand extensive battery storage and conversion equipment and extensive square footage of solar panels. Naturally, the more expense required will lengthen the payback time. Commercial power in this location is 7.5¢ per kWh. We also have hydro possibilities but the payback on that isn’t very good. Abrasives in water can elevate the wear on turbine blades and the demand of maintenance time and expense can easily push the cost to over 15¢per kwh. The good thing about water power is that it’s more available in the fall/winter and spring for home heating electrical and the summer electrical is minimal since we have a tight, heavily insulated house without need for cooling, although our heat pump can provide that. Any special thoughts on all this?
I’m thinking that supplying my whole house with power will be quite an undertaking. What I would like to do is hook up a wind generator or solar panel to supply electric to a couple outlets in our house. The kids like to use electric heaters to keep extra warm and my wife likes to iron while watching t.v. If I can supplement the house, and run these for free, I’d be happy with that. My wife isn’t keen on filling the basement and walls with equipment and batteries. Does this sound feasible?
Go for it, Mark. Starting with a limited project, like that, is perfect. Let me know how it goes!
Not well done!
Ithink this is very cool and I have many questions:
I’m located in huntsville tx. and I am wondering how a wind mill would do in my area.
my zip is 77340. Do you have a parts list for generators,convertors,batterys.wiring diagrams,ect&pricing. I
Earl,
I don’t sell parts. I’m just here providing information as best as I can.
Hello,
I just purchased the product and as I have not received everything at this point Im pretty hungry for knowledge.
When i first started looking into this, i was thinking that the type of system I was wanting was going to connect to the meter outside the house and I would sell power back to electric company, although just telling them to get their meter off of my building sounds like a better solution to me now. What im a little confused about is just how my equipment Im going to have to have in order to pull this off ( batteries, converters and so on)
I have about 5000 Sq feet of living and working space, Im a contractor so my shop is really extensive with welders and plaza cutters… Im thinking that this isn’t going to work for me.
Should i just wait for the books/videos or can someone give me an idea on this?
Does the system pay or itself if your system is large enough to get off the grid?
12/9/12 Closed my business so I don’t have website. My requrement is, I have a two story condo in Lakeland FL. The outside covered porch is screened in & has a roof. Our association has a class action lawsuit against the builder for bad roofs. One of the individual homes has a solar roof for the pool. If you nead specifications I can e-mail them to you.My neighbor has a Direct TV antennae attached to his roof working good. It was installed with 30 foot ladder and hangs in back of his condo approved by association.Without electrical knowledge on my part is it feasable for me to install Patroit4 System. Please reply to my e–mail. Thank you and May God bless you and your family.
William,
Keep clicking “next video”. We’ve got one about Power4Patriots for those who are not handy.
what does Chris do for an Internet connection?
It sounds great and I hope can be implemented resonably. I have sent for the videos and manuals, so we should see. I should have known this comes from Tennessee, I lived there for over 20 years in the Land Between the Lakes area. I now live in Arizona with my daughter and her family (you go where the job is and her husband’s is here). We certainly have enough sun here, and wind.
I love the idea of not having a power bill just don’t know how it works but sure I’m going to learn
One other thing: the thermostat which controls the heat needs power. That problem will go away.
The motor for pushing the heated water in the baseboard heater around the house has been the main power-out problem. If I can run that pump motor, the house will stay warm, as we have gas heat.
I’m a ham operator as well and want power to be able to communicate with the o/side world, so I’ll put a vertical fan on a generator inside the skeleton of the antenna tower to supply radio power and for the antenna rotor. It will be protected by the tower cage and very convenient to lay the tower over for work on the generator and the antenna when needed.
I would echo the thoughts of J. Wiles and T. Collier. If I install will the local authorities make me tear it down?
Interesting! I hope we can get there.
Have been reading the other comments and some of them are quite good. Some, however, seem like they are putting the cart before the horse, sort of speak.
I was lead to believe from Allen, that if you follow the Patriot4Power system, all of your questions will be answered. I have not gone there, but I don’t think that I am wrong.
I do have one question though….I know that this will vary, depending on your usage and local rates, etc., but on an average, how long does it take to recoup your investment by eliminating your mothly power bill?
What are the draw backs of having the solar panel array about 100 ft or more from the house?
1-thirteen hundred watts and 400 watts does not seem to be enough power for whole house, how does this set up to work?
2- how does the power company handle the lose when off grid. also, any problems with cities when installed. permits etc.
If there is a power outage and I have a on-grid system, can I convert to off grid if I have batteries that store power, or is there a method of using battery power without the power going back to the grid and staying at my home.
Billy – that is a perfect place to start. I recommend that you start with the “how do I hook up to batteries” section on our technical FAQ:
Reinforced my own observations about the lack of improvements that the power company here has show in recent years. If anything they have digressed and lose the grid more often than ever.
Savings on just the emotional level is worth the cost and time that it will take to achieve independence from all the “Big Brothers” out there.
Joel Hunt
The information in package looks good, but……
Read the disclaimer very carefully. The US National Electrical Code (NEC) is the LAW in every state in the union. The NEC requires that all PV modules and PV inverters be listed (Evaluated to standards for safety established by Underwriters Lab). Even if the $45,000 was available for listing, it is very doubtful that a backyard PV module could pass the very strenuous safety tests which include 2200 volt voltage tests, 90 days in the temperature and humidity chamber and the cell hot spot test.
You need to be way in the boonies to escape the inspector and the NEC and when you do, you take the safety of your family in your own hands.
Also PV modules in a pallet load (about 10-12) are selling for $0.68 per watt fully assembled, tested, listed, guaranteed, and with top quality materials. That is less that the individual can buy cells for.
In PV since 1984, off grid 16 years, and now with grid and battery backup.
Air conditioning and heating are my two worst nightmares. I can suffer through most of the days, but i will not suffer anyone else that visits. I actually had the power company inspect my meter to make sure it wasn’t being tampered with. I turned off the whole house AC and went room to room ac so i can control what different rooms are using. I then unscrewed all but one bulb in the cieling fans and only screw them back in as I need the extra light. There ought to be a light switch developed like some lamps to turn one light on at a time untill all of them are once again lit up. Anyway no matter what i do i still have had to use their power and they will continue to raise that cost as long as it suits them. I need options. Looking forward to the power4patriots option.
I have a few basic questions regarding a solar panel installation:
1) Is there a code compliance requirement to hookup to the grid and is it different across states?
2) Is inspection required for the circuitry on the house side of the meter?
3) Does the solar panel output connect to the existing breaker panel as an independent input source in addition to the grid source?
4) Is there a battery storage component to the solar system?
5) How do these power sources affect the resale of the home?
I would love to become independent of the grid, but must be cautious.
Terrance,
Start at our technical FAQ: http://www.power4patriots.com/support_technical.php
Would very much like to be able to be off the grid. I live in Colorado. I am on social security and no savings so really strapped for money all the time. Would like to have the solar and wind power to help my finances etc. thanks.
Question 1: Speaker is from Colorado as am I so I’d like to mention that Colorado gets an average of 300 sun days per year great for solar power and only second to Florida. Also Colorado has sufficient wind source to operate most wind generation.
Just a thought, I don’t think it’s in good taste to berate the competition (utility companies) without providing statistics for your comments. Sounds like the negative no proof political ads we are now watching. Our local utility company will actually advise you on wind and solar installation.
I have really high hopes, here in (Sardinia)Italy I had a solar plant set up, my bill doubled, 2 years later the judge rules that it was done badly and inefficiently, I now have to formally go to court to get redress and the loan company wants its payment like nothing happened and the crook is still in business. I am going bonkers. My intention in setting up an energy saving solution had been to protect my disabled son later ‘after me’. If this Power4Patriots works I shall become no.1 teacher in this area with a vengeance. Annie
I love the do-it-yourself approach to many things in life and would llike to learn how to build that
off grid system to gain total independence from the large power companies,along with protecting my home and business from brownouts, blackouts,and natural disasters. Saving some money would also be just fine and dandy!