Gun makers say adios to states messing with gun ownership.
Following the horrible tragedies at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, and elsewhere, a number of grandstanding politicians saw their chance to exploit the situation by trying to get tougher gun control laws passed in their states.
As we’ve discussed before, none of these politicians seems to grasp the obvious. In almost every case of a madman shooting up a school, theater or mall, a good guy with a gun could have stopped the bad guy with a gun and limited the loss of life. But they don’t see it that way. They seem bent on keeping us all helpless when a shooter starts his carnage.
Fortunately, gun manufacturers are starting to hit the states that are making it tougher to own a gun right where it hurts – jobs and revenue. These companies are not only threatening to leave the states that are passing legislation to limit the types of guns that people can own and making it more difficult to own a gun with extended background checks. They’re actually following through and doing it.
Bristol, Connecticut-based PTR Industries announced via Facebook that it would take its 40 jobs and $50,000 weekly payroll to an unspecified state, referring to Connecticut in its departure note as “the former Constitution State.”
Magpul Industries of Colorado, with its 200 employees and $85 million in annual taxable revenues, had stated on its Facebook page that it would have “no choice” but to leave the state if the “magazine bill” was signed, which it was in March by Colorado Governor John Hickenlooper. Since then, Magpul has started producing weapons accessories in a different state.
Other gun makers in these and other states have also threatened to relocate to states that are more “gun friendly.” One of them is Beretta USA of Maryland, which is saying that its state government “has chosen to cripple its citizens’ Second Amendment rights.” Another is Colt’s Manufacturing of Connecticut.
Check out this Fox News article titled “Gun Makers Aim for Greener Pastures as States Pass New Firearms Laws.” These relocations will cost states thousands of jobs and millions of dollars in tax revenues, so I hope the politicians are ready for the fallout that their ill-advised decisions are creating. Meet you on the other side.
If you owned a gun manufacturing company whose business would be negatively affected by new and stricter gun control laws, would you stay put and fight it out or would you move to another state where you were free to produce and sell your products without government interference? I’d love to hear from you about this.
first off, i am a CONVICTED FELON with 10 years experience behind prison walls!
2nd is that my ancestors were here on turtle island before my other ancestors arrived here on the MAYFLOWER!
3rd, my ancestors fought on both sides of revolutionary war and civil war too.
4th the constitution states that our rights are given by GOD and the job of government is to protect my rights and yours too.
every FUCK WAD TRAITOR takes an oath of office stating that he will defend the constitution, then immediately starts violating that oath!
as far as i am concerned what ever weapon or tactic the government can have or use, i can too!!
let everyone that has ever been in public office or worked in a government job be judged by their voting records and their actions!! I MYSELF WILL SHOW NO MERCY!! i will introduce them to my GOD and let HIM to decide if the go to heaven or hell! (if you believe in those concepts.) if you let even 1 of them or their families survive you are a fool. a simple look at history proves that when you remove someone from power by force and do not kill them dead that they come back to try and take back power, does anyone even remember the war of 1812? that is when the british attacked america on american continent and that war lasted several years!!
look at the crimes the government has committed in the last 50 years. these are the crimes that are now legal to use against them. they burn babies at waco, we can now burn their babies alive too!!
the #1 deterent to keep criminals from making you a target for their crimes is armed citizens!!! remember ,i spent 10 years in prisons! also i have convictions for felon in possession of pistol prior to 10 years of discharge of sentance.
kill me if you want, but when i decide enough is enough you will damn sure know it as ill start removing their ability to mess with us ever again and at wholesale prices!!
By the constitution that I was born under, live under and fight for, I have every right to arm myself as we all do against the very ones that continually try to take my (our) “arms” away. This includes their mindless minions taking orders to deprive me (us) of our rights.
Isn’t it funny that our leaders who embrace the right of our 2nd amendment isn’t afraid of the populous like the dems who spends wakeless nights devising ways to destroy our rights?
To the subject, it’s difficult to speak for a business but I’d say move to a more friendly state to do business and live to fight another day. Unfortunately if Clinton gets in there won’t be another day
i moved out of the great police state of ny and there liberal state of mind there loss my gain, screw ny state
I’m part owner of a gun manufacturing company that makes high end AR type rifles in NATO 5.56 and 300BO, http://www.daemondefensellc.com, and we are out of New Hampshire at the present time. We would definitely move if this state were to pass gun control laws similar to Conn. Thankfully we have open carry and concealed carry here in NH!
Now, people and “other” businesses need to start moving out. This is the power people have. Doing so would quickly force a change in law or the state would go broke.
To Joe of TN
Fed Ex has a large facility in Harrison, Arkansas! I drive by it every day.
I hope all states will follow suit and eventually drive these demonic weapons manufacturers out of biz!!
You do realize regardless of any to the law that would unconstitutionally change our right to bare arms won’t apply or affect or stop all the weak minded worthless trash that commit the horrible crimes everyone think would stop without guns.. It just gives them twice the power being no one could stop them being we are all unarmed right? People that think like you will be targeted first I’m sorry to say.. If you had your way and guns were gone.. The bad guys will take note of people like you as you announce your happiness and celebrate you will also be telling the bad guys your are an easy target and definitely unarmed!! I pray for the defenseless! I hope and pray that you or any of your loved ones ever find yourself looking at the barrel of a gun held by a junky.. I have and after I relieved him of his pistol and happily used it to leave few knots on his head and face just as a reminder that “yes I could have taken his life”! Hell I could have taken anything else of his I wanted but I didn’t.. (Except his gun) reason I say all this is 90% of gun owners are responsible and if that junky had been pointing his gun at you without a second thought that 90% of us would save your life! So go ahead and believe that the bad guys, junkies and gangbangers will totally go gun free.. I’ll stick with my 9mm my extended clip plus my backup clip and quick release holster on my hip.. Meanwhile people like you can destroy our country by changing the rules it was built on.. I mean of course the government would stop there and change nothing else like freedom of speech or anything right?? This is America land of the free so please leave my freedom alone! I don’t want people like you changing anything and forcing your views on me!! I’m just expressing my freedom of speech here not trying to force you to change to my belief of what I think…..
PROBABLY BECAUSE YOU SUPPORT ISIS
The weapons and the manufacturers are NOT the problem, PEOPLE are!
Isn’t it “interesting” that criminals, mentally unstable people and fanatics always are able to get their hands on assault weapons and ammo, but mentally healthy, law-abiding citizens can’t!?
Your particular point has had me thinking very hard for some time. Unfortunately, I do not see a way around it without an intelligent government in charge. Since this seems to be a non-sequitor (governments are never intelligent, merely political, not the same thing at all. Intelligent would be of service to everyone, political serves only opinion, mostly their own) I simply try to keep from attracting attention from unwanted sources.
You bag of crap leave america now!
How far did you make it in school?
“government interference” are the operative words. Isn’t that why our ancestors came to America in the first place?
Yes that is correct why our forefathers came to the new country and these people followed after all was done and Obama trying to say that Muslims help build this country and history teaches that they come and try to take over after things are going good and try to take over and change things to the way they want it Period
Coming in 2015. Done deal!
$110M Remington plant ramping up in Huntsville, hiring underway for firearm assembly, machining.
http://www.al.com/business/index.ssf/2014/12/110m_remington_plant_ramping_u.html
I live in Colorado and I saw Mag Pul move out of Colorado because the liberal congress and liberal governor made it law that a magazine could not hold more than 15 rounds. A company in Loveland moved to Texas because of the gun control law. They made optics and red dot scopes for firearms. They also made it law that background checks had to be run on people buying firearms at gun shows. For years if you purchased a firearm from a dealer you had to get a back ground check. Magpul took out a full page add in the Denver Post and said if the magazine law was passed, they would move out of Colorado. It passed and they moved their corporate headquarters to Texas and their manufacturing to Wyoming. In its place Colorado became one of the first 2 states to sell recreational pot. Now, they are finding it hard to control and 2 other states are suing Colorado, Oklahoma and Nebraska. They are finding people Oklahoma and Nebraska are smuggling the stuff into their states after purchasing it in Colorado.
The Sheriffs of Colorado said they would not go out of their way to enforce the laws because they had more important things to do and their departments were not given anymore funding. They sued Hickenlooper, but like all suits only the lawyers won. Hickenlooper did address the sheriffs and said it was a bad law and he did not read it carefully, but if he had it to do over again he would sign the law. Colorado has a whuss for a governor. Now that it is a split Congress in Colorado with the Conservatives holding the Senate , they are trying to get the magazine law overturned, but I think it is too late. Colorado has the Make My Day Law and I will use it if I need to.
Cartersville,Ga. I would gladley comeout of my early retirement to have one of these jobs!!! Tell all them to come on down! Highest reguards J. Bagley. Thanks also for all yourhard work.
Frank, tell all the gun Manufactures that Texas is open for business and to come on down. Certain cities in Texas will make some good deals for them to come and build their plants and get back to business with tax breaks or lower taxes in general. Many people in Texas would love the chance to work for a major or minor gun manufacturer. We Texans are still buying guns and ammo. Our current Governor Rick Perry is pro gun and I think our next Governor elect will also be pro gun or he will be a one term Governor.
Texas, Arkansas, or most any state in the South would welcome the industries and jobs that they would bring.
Dear Frank i read all you send and order stuff from you you right something going to happen we dont know when or what but the gov has a idel there not telling i buy ammo buy the bulks they have stoped that i tryed to buy 22lr buy 500 a box they said they want ship them they are making shelles that only last a year i found a way to get around that.
For those that fought for it , Freedom has a taste the protected will never know. That said, our present administration and possibly the next are indocrinating the uninformed masses that can only see free everything as a way of life (Gov’t control thru controling health care and strict gun control) that will garantee continue the Democrat parties LIBERAL control of the population. God Help this great NATION>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
stand your ground and fight. get your self a corperate attorny and sue the state. get one that will not charge you unless you win and they get a big fine you give him the %.
The biggest problem with these gun control things are good guys not having guns to stop bad guys when they are shooting people any time. Guns do not kill — bad people with guns do the killing. So making gun harder to make will only cost good people jobs. Cities will lose a lot of payrolls if this continues on this path. Call your congress people , tell them do not let my city lose payrolls and kept gun maker jobs for good people in place.
When people bring up gun control, you might just as well put your head in a hornets nest. Not only will you get stung from all sides; you are left with a irritating buzzing sound in your ears. You will always find the US’ens verse the YOU’ens when you discus gun control.
You can talk to either group until you are blue in the face; neither group will yield the argument. Points of view have valued on both sides, as are the detractors. There is no pleasing either group. Compromise seems to be a flight of fantasy.
No one wants a snake living in their back yard. Yet, without them, insects and rodents will run rampant and cause major damage and physical health issues to the human population. The same can be said about guns. No one wants another person to have a gun because they are afraid. They are afraid of this person because they don’t know him/her. They are afraid that this person may not be mentally competent or physically responsible enough to handle a gun. In short, they are afraid of the unknown. Just like a snake that can go undetected, cause physical harm, mental anguish, and or death; a person in possession of a gun, weapon, yields the power of life and death. Once the trigger is pulled you can never take it back. This is where their fear lies. A life taken can not be returned. Yet without the gun evil will run rampant. The good people will be left defenseless. You can not always rely on the police coming to the rescue. The cavalry doesn’t always make it over the hill in time to save you or your family. You must save yourself. A gun, weapon, is a tool to be used in self defense or survival. That is to say, to put food on the table or stay alive.
What is the answer? Common sense? My common sense is different from yours. Compromise? Well, that would work if it was just pure compromise without the back room politics or influence of money. So what can you do? You fall back to the original contract, the Constitution of the United States. It authorizes that every citizen the RIGHT to bear arms. To have a gun, a weapon. Each State must abide to the laws of the federal government. However, they may add to or issue a more restrictive law govern the “right to bear arms.”
It is up to the citizens in each state to voice their opinions and make sure that their duly authorize state representative vote the way each citizen deems is right for them. If their decision restricts or oust the weapon from their state then that is their right. If in so doing the manufacturing plant decides to leave due to the new restrictions then that is their right. “Quid Pro quo” Why stay where you are not wanted. “Go where I am wanted and accepted.” Who’s to blame?
My only concern is this, there will come a point when there is no place to go. No place to exercise my “right to bear arms.” No place to work because my company decided to move out of state. What will happen then? Will the weapon manufacturing plant leave the country? Push me into a corner, then I will come out fighting. What happens if the need arises that I need a weapon? When having a gun, weapon, is a good thing? Then what?
Best thing to do is allow me to live my life the way I choose and you live your life the way you choose.
why compromise the constitution? no meeting half way. instant back ground checks work. if some one is mentally ill the local police department will have it on file.
I beg to differ, background checks do not work. The person who shot up the church in my town, Charleston SC passed a background check. The crazies and criminals don’t normally go to gun stores to get their weapons, they steal them or buy them on the street.
Agree 100% Everybody start calling your reps and Senators
The pro-gun groups have “compromised” for years. However those “compromises” always resulted in them giving up something but getting nothing in return. As a result they have adopted the no compromise position since a true compromise requires BOTH sides to give up something and both sides to gain something and the anti-gun side is never willing to give up anything.
The government of the United States ()NOTE: is NOT the same as U.S. government) is a type of political machinery. When in doubt about how to use any piece of machinery safely and effectively, the prudent operator should first consult the manufacturer’s set of instructions — in this case, the Constitution. The Constitution explicitly provides for four, and only four, “homeland-security” establishments: (i) the Militia of the several States” [Article I, Section 8, Clauses 15 and 16; Article II, Section 2, Clause 1; and the Second Amendment]; (ii) Armies” [Article I, Section 8, Clause 12]; (iii) “a Navy” [Article I, Section 8, Clause 13]; and (iv) “Troops” and “Ships of War” that the States may “keep * * * in time of Peace”, but only “with[ ] the Consent of Congress” [Article I, Section 10, Clause 3].
Of these, ONLY the Militia are described as “NECESSARY” for “security”: “[a] well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed” [Amendment II]. And not just for “security” in some general sense, but SPECIFICALLY for “the SECURITY of a free State.”
Which begs the QUESTION: are there ANY free states anymore?
I think that it is a imperative for these manufacturers to leave those states that do no support their industry. I hate living in Liberal Maryland with the associated gun laws and I am looking to move to another state that will provide me my right to defend myself. We must all remember that the 2nd Amendment of the constitution “The Right to Bear Arms” was made part of the constitution so that We The People could Arm ourselves not to hunt or shoot at the range but to protect ourselves and freedoms from government tyranny. I believe in American and what America stands for and look forward to relocating myself to a state which has like minded people. Somewhere in the last 30 years the American people have allowed an additional S to be added to the USA ( USSA ). We must all stand up and make America what it once was. I support these manufacturers and hope all of them move from these Liberal states so that their budgets will be hurt even more causing tax increases in those states. Eventually people will move to those states which support the constitution and balance will eventually be obtained.
AMEN!
I’m looking to leave MD too!!!
It’s way too liberal. Also, its crazy on the highways, they’re literally getting too dangerous to drive. People don’t care about laws, courtesy or safety and I’m fed up and ready to leave.
The U. S. Govmt. has for many years defended our so called freedom from communism, fascism, nazis-ism, etc.etc. but being belicose against other nations does have it’s positive side, it provides all of us here at home some security, most of those countries are run by individules that are power hungary and use fear to control the masses.
The weapons our constitution allows us to have are being used by brain damaged and psychologically warped people that don’t quite fit in. The other ones are people enraged by jelousy and greed. Whatever the case may be, the government is attempting to have more control over these killers.
Be very glad all of you are not living in Mexico, where the authoritative Peña Ñieto govmt. gives no leeway for being caught with any military type weapon or ammo. One goes to prison right away if caught. So why does every news announcement have pics of men carrying military arms? Because Mexico is now living in a state of ANARCHY!!! (Controlled by organized crime–DRUG CARTELS helped along by crooked politicians and weapons from THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!!!
Total authoritative control can happen here on our turf!! Our government has long range plans for that, u do not have long to wait.
While I will agree that we are safe from the Nazis, the Emperor of Japan and other nefarious despot dictators of the past. We are not now, nor will we ever be safe from the radical zealots spreading out from the middle east and also the thugs that roam our streets who already have guns (any law be damned in their eyes). The government is charged with keeping our borders safe and that is where their actual power ends, period! The premise that that government is there to protect us from anything else has been invented not to protect but rather to control. If only the government and the criminals have guns, we have ZERO security from either without our own guns. Lexington Green was a battle fought over keeping military grade munitions to protect us from the exact same type of laws and taxes we are drowning in this very day.
Just remember this. Nine out of ten mass murderers agree, gun free zones are target rich environments…… The other one opinion is reserved for bombers, slashers and other equally sick individuals,
I seem to recall, years ago, a feminazi bumper sticker that said “If you’re against abortion, don’t have one” . Now, I want a bumper sticker that says” if you’re against gun-ownership, don’t buy one”. I guess the good thing in all this is that when the next civil war starts, libtards won’t be armed
I seem to recall that a lot of the lobiest for gun controll all own guns and have body guards to boot riddle me that!
I agree totally. I think it’s ironically funny.
Relocation of gun manufacturers: Check relocation of gun manufacturers from northwest to Alabama. Numerous media Articles about the thousands of jobs etc. Moving currently underway. Remikngton
Edit—-Remington is moving from the North East US to Huntsville Alabama
Rem is one of the folks making short term storage ammo i won’t buy it anymore!
Freedom is free other than the cost of self sacrifice, We have taken our freedoms for granted, we have taken the self sacrifice of those that gave life and limb for us, we ask for protection from the bad guys, it’s ok to expect the police to help us thats why we pay them.
But why do we give up our right to protect our homes and ourselves, between the time it takes the police to show up those minutes or hours we risk getting killed or at least abused or raped laughed at and left seriously mamed hurt if not dead!
If the bad guy has a gun then the good guy needs a gun as well to return fire and protect the family.
When our country (our home) was threatened by a foreign power did we stop them with a phone call or use a weapon (more powerful) to make them back off first and then use diplomacy.
Our home is where we live, fire the useless politicians and use the tax dollars to get some self protection!
Well put. Legislating morals is the family’s responsibility and not Congress, States or fanatical Christians. Besides, Congress State govt. trying to legislate morals is an oxymoron….what do they know about morals? Once again; “Guns don’t kill people, people kill people. And if they outlaw guns, only outlaws will own them. It won’t make a difference, News medias will continue to sensationalize shootings.and what do they know about morals also?
Fanatical Christians??? Exactly where did that come from??? If you need an example of fanatical you need look no further than the Radical Islamists! Pray tell, how many “fanatical Christians” ( to use your words) practice beheading people if they cannot force them to deny their beliefs? How many “fanatical Christians” practice the so-called honor killing of anyone (usually their own children, or children in their extended family) when they are caught doing something, no matter how minor by our standards? Your adding a slam against Christians makes no sense considering the topic but speaks VOLUMES about YOU! We are taught to pray for our enemies. Now there’s a concept to ponder.
Michigan would be a good place for gun manufacturers and ammo suppliers to check out in planting new roots. Our state Senate Judiciary Committee just approved legislation by a 3-0 vote that is CPL (concealed pistol license) friendly. It will be more efficient and cost-effective to obtain a license if the state senate and house pass the bill. Michigan has a great industrial and high-tech background, and plenty of competent people who want to work, not just live off the handouts of the Odictator administration. Plus, Detroit is not the only place to build a plant or move into an existing space. Michigan is a big state and has plenty of room all over the state to welcome new business. Don’t forget that tourism and hunting are our two biggest draws in bringing in income.
Georgia already has a gun-friendly atmosphere. (Glock Manufacturing is in Smyrna, GA)
School shootings and such, as horrific as they are (signifies the deteriorated mental state of many children) are convenient smoke screens for Obama and his liberals to scream GUN CONTROL! They couldn’t give a rats ass less! Someone earlier told it for what it really is….GET OUR GUNS! The Chinese are here preparing while waiting for Obama to make that call. You know our troops wouldn’t execute such volatile actions against fello Americans….Chinese on the other hand are programmed, killing machines. Get prepared for survival and lean on God. He will be our protector, strength, and provider when this world turns upside down…Believe you me…it will be sooner than one thinks or cares to believe. God Bless ALL
I hope that one of these companies move to Florida I really don’t know what the lawyers here. We need new job bad. The politicians only think about money they don’t see the full picture. While they’re doing this I can’t wait for election day.
The politicians in Flordia do see the full picture – its just that you aren’t in it.
I wouldn’t wast the time and money fighting the tyrants. I would move all operations and jobs out of the state, and let the state government suffer the consequences. They are already whining about lach of revenue. Wait until the loss hits them. They will have no choice but to increase the burden on those who can least afford it.
there is a gun manfacturer located in CocoaFL.,,,,name; KEL TEK
I own one of their nice pistols
What happens when the other fort-nine states follow suite? Where you go then? Stand your ground NOW! or you won’t have a place to stand later.
Beretta USA, has announced that it is moving to TN. They are spending 45 million to build a new plant. Thank you Maryland!!
“We’re convinced we could find no better place than Tennessee to establish our new manufacturing enterprise,” said Franco Gussalli Beretta, executive vice president and a director of Beretta USA. Agreed!!
http://www.tennessean.com/article/20140129/BUSINESS/301290171/Gun-company-Beretta-bringing-300-jobs-Gallatin.
The problem with progressives and liberals is that they are like locusts. They destroy a state and then move out cuz it now sucks and then implement their same stupidity in another state, until it sucks too. Right now the libs are flooding out of IL NY and CA, which they’ve already made FUBAR, and are descending on Texas to screw it up too. We need an ebola that only affects liberal minds..
I agree that God is going to spank us hard, just like the Israelites of 700bc. Read Jonathon Cahn’s “The Harbinger”
You’ve got it nailed, Tom.
Same mentality as muslims, trash one country then go find a new one……
Problem with Colorado now is the fact that to many have moved here from California.
That’s for sure.
Don’t forget Michigan, take a look at Detroit, once a booming city, but after fifty years of being run by liberals take a look at it now.
There is one last chance to change the country back to the FOUNDER’s ideals. They wrote it themselves. They knew the potential for an onerous central govt & provided a way out. Read Mark Levin’s book “The Liberty Amedments” It describes how the States can take back their power without bloodshed.
If you believe that then the tooth fairy will stop by tonight to tuck you in. History has shown time and time again that when it come to relinquish power there is always bloodshed. Those that have will not let go willingly.
Don’t you see that it is all a part of the big one world government agenda. There are many and varied groups out there fighting small pieces of this huge pie owned by elite (illuminati, masons, etc). We need leaders to bring groups together for common purpose. Groups like anonymous, grass fire nation, patriot groups. Problem is government spying. That is entire point of monitoring all of our communications via cell phones and computers. All of us are already on their list. I for one will not go quietly into that good night.
I do worry yes, I do get frustrated trying to figure out how the good people can retake this country from the nutty koolaid-aide crowd but ultimately I know in my heart theat NOTHING on earth, in the heavens or in he’ll can occur without the will oh God. Perhaps we are now reaping what we sowed through the seeds of institutionalized murder (abortions & euthanasia), of materialism, hedonism and by completely turning our backs on him. God’s will be done.
Read the Harbinger and you will see how far down the slippery slope we have gone.
BridgitAbita, GOD said, “This TOO Shall Pass.”
Could you help me be registered in each state as a Registered Carry Gun. Many states do not honor my registration on Utah gun carry. Can you advice?
Maybe others that give comments, need this info.
Thank you.
love to all
Sal that is easy. Look and see what states honour Utah’s right to carry. Then see what states accept other states right to carry a gun. Then choose the one state that others are willing to accept and apply to that state. Choose the state that you will be visiting that you can do this in.
Other than that, change the federal law to make it legal to carry your weapon i9n all stated. This will mean you will have to be registered in all 50 states.
The only other way you can carry a gun in all states and be legal is to be a U.S. Marshall or FBI.
I live in SC and 2 gun manufacturers are moving here and maybe a third. They are a few mile up the road from where my family lives. We welcome them, we need the jobs and we need the boost to the economy. I hope we can keep the manufacturers coming because we need the work for our people. Let the paranoid liberals stay where they are and let us thrive.
What’s more costly? Moving companies to a state that welcomes them – for being an American company with the freedom to produce a viable and necessary commodity – with jobs and money for the community – or being lambasted for being an American company that produces what a minority wants stopped for their own political goals – the Communist United States with everyone slaves of the government?
I do not own a gun – I don’t trust myself with one as I am a senior citizen with a temper – but I am a true-blooded niece of Uncle Sam and believe we citizens have a right to protect our rights. After all, the police are only minutes away IF you can notify them quickly…
You are correct about “minutes” but its like 20+ minutes if at all… Before I moved out into the county there was a shoot out two streets up. I had rounds striking my house, called the cops, THEY NEVER SHOWED UP!!!!CALLED 4 TIMES!!! I also have kids one was 8 the other was 1and a half. So you do the math on response times.
James did you find out why they didn’t come? Did you protect your family and shoot back?
I am with the gun manufacturers, I wouldn’t have said anything about moving or where I was going. These people who are against them have so limited a view .
They can’t see the forest for the trees. This is a way Hitler took over Germany. Cuba, Venesuela,etc. The government will then have total control of you.
My open letter to Colorado legislators published at:
http://www.gmgunsmiths.com/4/dear-colorado-legislators/
From: gregg [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 12:29 PM
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Subject: Colorado legislature anti-gun laws
Dear Colorado Legislators,
After reading your new proposed anti-gun laws I felt compelled to send you my views on the matter. I admit that I’m a small business owner and employ less than 10 people; however, I still have a voice.
My wife and I have two sons and their families that live in Colorado and they have been trying to convince us to move our business there. We have many customers from Colorado for our stock customizations that it made a lot of business sense to relocate from Texas in order to be closer to most of our customers and family. We had also anticipated expanding our business once we relocated to Colorado and have just started to put our services on-line to attract more customers.
We have visited the Estes Park area numerous times in preparation for purchasing land and have been pursuing establishing our business there.
These laws, in my opinion are totally miss-guided, simply window dressing, delusional on the part of legislators, and do nothing to remove the guns from the hands of criminals who already have the weapons and does nothing to prevent mentally disturbed individuals from obtaining and using weapons of any kind.
How many more children have to die before you pursue the criminals and mentally disturbed individuals more aggressively?
When will you pass laws that force criminals to turn in their weapons instead of criminalizing law abiding citizens? Yes, forcing criminals to turn in their guns sounds like a joke; however, your track record in reducing criminal usage of guns is miserable.
Even if you do not pass the current proposed anti-gun legislation we feel the Colorado legislature has demonstrated its intent and position, therefore, we believe that it will continue to pursue miss-guided and delusional laws of this nature in the future.
With the news of the Colorado legislature bringing these anti-gun laws into act we now believe that the attitude of the Colorado legislature toward the 2nd Amendment and the lawful rights of gun owners is such that we cannot continue the process of relocating our business there.
Therefore, we are abandoning our efforts to relocate and expand our business in Colorado. We have been discussing these issues with many Outfitters in other states explaining that we will not be able to support them in Colorado as previously planned plus we will be presenting our views to other gunsmith business owners when we meet later this year.
Sincerely,
Gregg Sterner
G & M GunSmiths
Carrollton, TX
Mr. Gregg Sterner, that was a nice letter. I’m proud that you took the time to voice your concerns. However, in your remarks you mention “removing guns from criminals hands.” The point the fine folks in Colorado are trying to make is that they think everyone is a criminal. As a gun smith, tell me true, how many criminals come into your shop to get their weapons repaired or to purchase them? Weapons are for the taking because the criminal can steal them from the honest gun owner.
It would behoove you to do a little research before making a blanket statement. The problem is not only in who has a gun; but, who uses one to impose their will on others. A person isn’t a criminal until he uses his weapon in a illegal way.
Obama should have a tail placed on his forehead would make him look like a jackass that he has been acting like. thank you
I guess you keep you tail tucked between your legs.
I wish some would push a water-gun up Obama ass and squirt it = ALL =filled with SUPER-GLUE and leave the squirt gun there……’Y E A H !!!!!
Sorry, but the good guy with the gun may go crazy and shoot things up also. Plus we do not need shoot them up episodes. I believe in gun control. Wayne Young
Guess you support Obama’s Version of Socialistic Communism as well !
On the Other hand, When Your FUHRER Comes around, Forcing His way into your home at Night to Make sure your not Hiding ANY WEAPONS, Thus Terrorizing your Family, You will support those actions as well?
Sorry Wayne but the truth is that EVERY MASS SHOOTING WAS DONE BY A DEMOCRAT OR THE CHILD OF A DEMOCRAT. This has been verified.
Want gun control, bar every left wing nut a gun
That is the same logic as voting for Obama because he is black.
Wayne Young, your a ignorant mental midget, and it would give me great pleasure to watch a criminal jack you up and shoot your unprotected ass or to watch the Government walk into you indefensible home and roust you and your loved ones then drag you off for the undetermined amount of time to one of the 800 F.E.M.A. concentration camp’s, excuse me, D.H.S. say’s that they are re-education camps! You need some re-education!!!!!!!!!!!!
You believe in gun control Wayne? Well fu-k you too!
YOU DON’T SOUND LIKE AN AMERICAN IIF THEY TAKE AWAY OUR GUNS OBOMA AND THEMUSLEMS WILL HAVE AN EASY TIME TAKING OVER AMERIA AND WE WILL BE LIKE ALL THE FAR EAST MUSLEM COUNTRIES AND HAVE NI=O SAY
Mr. Wayne Young, I respect your opinion. It is seems those above forgot the FRIST ADMENDMENT, “Freedom of Speech.” The RIGHT to voice your opinion. Its amazing that these people are willing to defend the Second Amendment; but, not the first.
I believe that I have the right to “bear arms.” I also believe that this right comes with the responsibilities of owning a weapon. It is my responsibility to ensure that I use this weapon in a safe manor. To make sure that no harm befalls anyone through my use of my weapon.
There are aspects to gun control I agree with and there are those that I don’t. For the gun control laws that I don’t like, I will try and change. I am for any law that will make owning a weapon safer to use. That is why I belong to the NRA. If more people became members then there wouldn’t be so many problems in owning a weapon.
Apparently no one has been paying close enough attention. For the past 5 years as we have been chasing our tales Obama has been building his communist machine now his machine is strong enough to declare this country to be communist. There is only one way to get back our freedom and that is another revolution. I just don’t know if there are enough people with the knowledge, backbone, courage and patriotism to wage a revolution. Even if there are enough sleeping in this country will the wake up in time to successfully pull it off. By know if it were to be successful it would have needed to be well on it’s way to organisation.
Maybe we should learn to call each other comrades. NO I could never do that I have fought for freedom all my life and will continue to do so as long as there is life within me.
Unfortunately it’s not about common sense or economics. Cut to the crux of the issue and you will find it’s about the ruling elite’s agenda to disarm and control us.
Who Is John Gault? Just saw Atlas Shrugged II last night and I can’t think of a work more relavant to our time. You owe it to yourself to read Ayn Rand’s books or see the movies- she could see it coming back in 1957. Atlas Shrugged three is being made right now.
Time for the sleeping giant to awaken!
Well said, However, You Americans have the Nasty Habit of waiting to close the gate, After the Cows Escape!
The Real Future of this Country, was Predicted in the Movie – RED DAWN #1 & Renewed in Red Dawn 2,
The Message Fell on Deaf Ears & Blind Eyes,
We’re Cursed with the Attitude of Waiting for the Other Guy to take Action & Then Joining in.
We made that mistake in WW2, & we are Doing it again with De FUHRER Obama.
As for this Story Above, I Support the Gun Company’s 100% & Wouldn’t Blame them one bit if they MOVED out of this Country, all together!
The Russian’s and Chinese are already hear on closed Military installations training for urban warfare to disarm us and force us into the 800 F.E.M.A. concentration camps to re-educate and incinerate the ones they choose or are deemed un-useful to the top ruling one percent, they have already deemed a one hundred mile thick border area all the way around the hole country as a none Constitution area that deems everyone in this area as not being protected by the Constitution and soon will be removed and relocated! Guess where? F.E.M.A. camps! I have no remorse for those who don’t see or prepare for what’s coming much-less arm them selves and fight! Those people will be removed from the equation and se la vie to them!
Think about the various scenarios of what would have happened if there had been a “good guy with a gun” present at any of these incidents. What if there were two “good guys with a gun”? How long would it take to get their weapons out and into action? How many of the deaths would have already happened by then? When a “good guy with a gun” sees someone firing his gun in a public area what does he do? Shoot at the shooter? What if he misses and hits an innocent? In the confusion how likely is that? What if the other shooter is actually another “good guy with a gun”? Would we have a shootout in a public space between several “good guys with guns” each thinking the other “good guy with a gun” is the culprit? How sure are you, really, that that wouldn’t happen?
The Second Amendment never mentions “fire arms”. Try reading it. It mentions only “Arms”. Sarin is an “Arm” if the Second Amendment means “Arms” to refer to “Weapons”. Does the Second Amendment really mean that that weird guy down the street has a constitutional right to stockpile sarin in his back yard? Does the second amendment guarantee the right of well funded foreigners (or Americans, for that matter) to build or buy nuclear arms?
Can anyone give me one good reason to allow individuals in this country to own sarin, nuclear arms, assault rifles, or high capacity magazines. Does the way the second amendment is written mean peoples rights to arms or “well regulated militias” right to bear arms?
You are either insane or a Democrat…Oh wait it’s the same thing. My bad.
I can give you a good example of why he might need an assault type weapon and large capacity magazine and it is coming. Food shortages create angry mobs who will break down your door and kill you just for the food in your cabinet. Whatever the capacity of your magazines, you will wish it were more. When you fire your 5 shots from your little revolver and make everyone madder then you will understand. These weapons are for me – not for everyone else!
You are not a person with any mental abilities. I wold like to know how you get to civillians owning nerve gas, and nuclear weapons etc out of gun ownership?
They should come to Texas. Texas is gun friendly and has a relaxed business climate that many other states does not have. It’s easy to do business in the state of Texas.
For Now, However if we Continue to Wait on the FEDS to control our Borders, We Won’t Remain Free For Long!
I’ve lived in TEXAS the Better Part of my Life & it Saddens me to see This Great Independent State, Being Over Ran & controlled by Those ILLEGAL Folks from across The Border!
The SICK thing is, If They are so darn Good at their Work & Running Our Governments, (Both Local & National), Then Why the Crap don’t they Make Their Own Country as Good as The United States once was?
Dear Frank:
If I were one of those companies, I would not even hint of a threat. I would just MOVE AS FAST AS POSSIBLE!
TO QUOTE part of a song: ” I’d run so fast that a rabbit couldn’t catch me” all the way down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico.
Respectfully
Kenny Stites
Wasn’t that; And they ran so fast that the Hounds couldn’t catch them, down the Mississippi, all the way to the Gulf of Mexico ?
Run Rabbit, Run. I’ll still have stew tonight.
Arkansas, around 1972-3, used local, state and federal laws to try and force FedEx to comply to their way of doing business. I am sure they didn’t believe they would move to another state. THEY DID. Memphis and TN are proud to have this massive company as a resident. They employ thousands locally and produce millions of $s for the economy and in tax revenue. I am sure the states restricting responsible gun owners will be surprised when the manufactures move to another state. Maybe they should rethink their policies and avoid the sorrow of losing such valuable commercial residents.
It has been my experience that the kinds of people who make these laws do not care what anyone else thinks. Their ego is too big to ever look at anyone else’s point of view.
FEdEx moved to Memphis because the Little Rock airport didn’t wish to deal with them… So, FedEx moved to Memphis. Also, did you know that Fred Smith was a fraternity mate of George Bush, and a Skull & Bones member as well?
Tell them all to come to Indiana we would enjoy the jobs and the guns.
Would move to a state where the law makers had more in there heads than air holding there ears apart.