Another gun control initiative has criminals celebrating.
At least once a week, someone asks me about background checks for gun purchases. Usually, the question goes something like this: “Isn’t a background check a good idea if it can keep a crazy from buying a gun?” Or sometimes it’s, “Why don’t we just give in on the background check thing and focus on keeping our rights to own guns?”
Well, there are several reasons why extending background checks for gun purchases is a bad idea. First of all, those background checks will do very little, if any, good. Right now, approximately 80 percent of gun purchases are made in scenarios where there can’t be a background check. Half of those purchases are made on the street, and the other half are made from friends and family members.
So, right there you see how easy it would be for criminals to buy guns without background checks, even if very strict background checks were in place. A vast majority of the people who would have to go through an inconvenience to purchase a gun if more extensive background checks were in place would be those who are law-abiding citizens.
Secondly, background checks are not merely background checks. They are a significant step toward something that gun control advocates have wanted for a long time – a universal gun registry. This type of registry would let the government know exactly which homes have legally-purchased guns and how many, and would enable them to come right to your door to remove your guns if they wanted to.
Don’t think that would ever happen in America? Well, I’m sorry to disillusion you, but it just happened eight years ago following Hurricane Katrina. Law enforcement officials went door to door confiscating guns from law-abiding citizens who had purchased them in a legal fashion. And the same thing will happen next time there’s an emergency.
A recent poll showed that approximately one-half of Americans believe that stricter background checks for gun purchases would lead to what is now an illegal universal gun registry, thanks to the 1986 passage of the Firearm Owners Protection Act. I’m guessing that percentage would be even higher if more people understood the real intent of those seeking extensions of background checks.
How about you? Do you think that extending background checks will keep guns out of the hands of lunatics? Do you think that extending background checks will result in less gun violence? Do you believe that extending background checks is another step toward creating a universal gun registry? I’d love to hear what you have to say about this very important topic.
I, a Democrat, am so thankful that I purchased a gun safe . Now my collection is safely jailed and will not be able to get free and harm anyone . Two points about disabled folks, 1) There are many people who milk the system and have no right to . Every system is worked by crooks either to get money or prevent having to pay money . 2) The ones who truly need the help are labeled as sponges sucking up free money . A nurse I know , was hurt catching a 300 lb patient , destroying her back , her ability to hike the mountains , care for the elderly and to do everyday chores pain free . Think she wouldn’t rather have a healthy back than feeling useless ? With health insurance , her monthly medications run $300.00 +. Chew on that for awhile . Insult to injury , L&I and SSI did all they could to deny her case . Her lawyer had to step in, and of course , they had to grant her disability . They couldn’t beat the 6 doctors they sent her to, who all agreed that her working life was over . She had two children to support also .
Keeping guns out of the hands of lunatics would be easier than keeping lunatics out of Congress.
I’m mentally ill. I hear voices telling me to kill other ppl and kill myself. Do I think I shd be able to own a gun? Absolutely not. Do I think if I wanted one I cd get one, regardless of stronger checks or it being illegal for mentally ill ppl to own guns (imagining)? Of course. Because even though it’s legal, there is NO WAY I would EVER walk into a gun store, pick out a gun and purchase it, thereby leaving evidence of my existence. I’d go into the projects and buy an unlicensed one with the serial number removed. Of course.
Just for the record, the safest I’ve ever felt was on semester abroad in London, where the POLICE did not have guns.
We sure live in a great world.The government and politicians can lie to us,steal from us,pass laws that benefit them and and send us to the poverty level or lower and have the nerve to say this is right and for our good.BULLSHIT
If you LIKED UN agenda 21 you will LOVE agenda 22 it is buried deep in that rat’s nest and makes reference to an agenda 23
All about control under the pretense of gun control. Criminals will never listen to or follow the law , that’s why their criminals.
Universal gun registry has been the goal of every fascist and socialist government since it was fully realized by Adolph Hitler, a socialist. first order of business: create a crisis and begin confiscation. Hitler rallied the German people against Jews and began a dual campaign of Jewish incarceration and gun confiscation. The Gestapo administered both campaigns successfully. No one wins. As America falls into the same trap, who comes to the rescue of freedom? Iran? Russia? the Democrat Party? Good luck with any of them.
You’ve got that right!
All this goes back to the old saying if guns were outlawed on outlaws would have guns. I hope Clinton does not get in, as we will probably go thru the same crap we just did.
I am very wary of the registry of guns…but on the other side of the coin, just maybe it will allow law enforcement to put much more resources into illegal and criminal sales to the bad guys. I like stop and frisk. “IF’ law enforcement is allowed to stop, frisk and arrest criminal gun holders anywhere, and use gun registration laws to facilitate this, would not this be a plus? Or would they still spend all their energy on law abiding people. That is a big “IF”.
Please tell me how you know who the “bad” guys are? When I used to ticket speeders I’d usually get the response, “Why don’t you go after the real criminals?” And I would ask the person to please point them out. Short of mind control there really is no way to ever know someone’s motives. It’s just easier to take away freedoms for everyone. So, bad people do bad things. IT IS THE PRICE OF A FREE SOCIETY.
So BARNEY FIFE,
[;LEASE ‘SPLAIN to me, me since I only have several University Degrees from several Universities – just HOW this would work!???!!
Oh yeah, lemme see-
So when a street thug buys a firearm from another street thug- OF COURSE they will report the illegal gun sale of an illegal firearm, because they don’t want to violate the law, right!??!
NOW, EXPLAIN just HOW preventing a LAW ABIDING CITIZEN from purchasing a firearm makes ANYONE safer!???!!!
And you, BY YOUR OWN ADMISSION, will stop and frisk an otherwise law-abiding individual without due cause to be sure THEY are not violating he gun laws?
It could be YOU finding yourself in court on the wrong end of a lawsuit for civil rights violations!!!
BTW,
Hitler-in 1938-proclaimed ” We are the safest country in the civilized world after our citizens have turned over their free-owned guns!
Crime-rates will drop….. YADA YADA YADA YADA
If you believe this garbage, there is a BEAUTIFUL city in the US mid-west of which a former presidential “Chief of Shaft” is the Mayor, and which also bans personal firearm ownership in the city.
But you see, that doesn’t stop criminals from killing as many as 159 people in ONE WEEKEND in that city redently!!!
Lets compare that city to the FORMER “Murder Capitol Of The World”, a mere 3 1/2 hour drive East on the I-94 Expressway…
The former Capitol of “The Arsenal Of Democracy”, and former “Murder Capitol Of The World” is noe a “SHALL ISSUE” city, meaning-if someone LEGALLY purchases a firearm- they MUST give YOU a permit to carry when you ask for it.
This all was started by the Detroit City Police Chief asking that all able-bodied citizens arm themselves to take their city back, a profound idea-that WORKS!!!
Detroit;s violent crime dropped in half overnight & much farther since-seems thugs don’t like fair odds.
I used to be law enforcement and once got a call about a convict in possession of a gun. I called my shift supervisor for backup but he appeared to me as being scared to go. I didn’t want the convict to get away because I had many dealings with him and he was a gang banging thug who sold everything he wanted. So I drove to where he was, chased him a bit and he surrendered. I found in his back pack a stolen tech 9 with 36 rounds of ammo in it. This guy never bought a gun but stole several and sold them on the streets. So if anyone is nieav enough to think background checks will work then please don’t vote. Your head is too deep in the sand to make a rational decision.
Is universal firearm registration and state firearm regisration really that different? Many states require registration. In my state of California all firearm purchases are recorded by the state and the state regularly confiscates firearms for various reasons. So, if states have records of all guns and who purchased them, the Feds just need the co-operation of the states and that becomes universal registry. In fact, today, the states and Feds co-operate on many other matters, so really, in practice, what’s the difference between state and federal registry? Insights anyone?
Excuse me but , it’s none of the damn states business if I own weapons or not.
And registration of firearms , is the beginning of the slippery slope. The old saying goes…. give them an inch, and they want a mile.
As long as we have criminals that disobey laws, passing more laws to force law abiding citizens to comply is bullsheit.
This might be a fiction book, but if you read all three it is sounding more and more like USA. The Hunger Games!!!
Kevin.your state is a police state to begin with.I am a California native and moved because of the Gestapo mentality there.I moved to AZ. which has no firearm registration and is a free carry state.I buy fire arms at garage sales ,news paper ads ect.Registration does nothing to keep firearms from crooks it enables the police to confiscate your guns as they did to my nephew who lives in Calif. for no apparent reason other than he broke up a dogfight and pushed a lady out of the way of harm.how gestapo is that?
I’m not a crackpot nor a pervayor of hate,I just ask you to wake up before it’s too late,> The grabbers want our guns; that’s not knew, but now they want to remove amendment number two.> If we lose number two, all our rights will fall; it’s not too late heed the wake up call.> Yhe tyrants know before their henchmen can march the keystone must be removed from the arch. > Of antiques and sportin equipment we need no part; minutemen need guns that are state of the art: despots must know with us not to trifle; a musket’s no march for an m 1 rifle.. Get som starch in your tongue and some steel in you spine; spep up and take your place on the line.> We must close or ranks to form an impenetratable phalanx and meet infernal persistence with eternal resistance; Remember all thats necessary fo evil to win is for nothing to be don by good men.- Robert F. Hunter- 113 Bowie Street_ Abbeville, South Carolina
Robert, seriously, turn your spell check on. How can anyone take you seriously if you are incoherent?
Those who support more gun control cannot explain how more will fix a problem the laws on the books now have not fixed. There are now somewhere between five and ten thousand gun control laws on the books (in all fifty states) that have been passed since the early 1900’s, by just such people and obviously do no good as far as the gun control advocates are concerned. So explain how more will work to curtail violence. If the second amendment were interpreted correctly all would be considered unconstitutional because they are infringements on procession!
It must further be realized eliminating guns may make everything worse not better. That has preciously been the case in several dozen other nations. Who among the gun control advocates considers such a possibly, anyone? The guns were taken away in many nations during the twentieth century and somewhere between 170 and 250 million people were murdered (not counting actual war casualties) by their own government (there is no exact figure). Who thinks that was good? Who also thinks that could not happen here? This government has already slaughtered people when citizens looked the other way. Are we going to repeat such a mistake? History provides the details regarding many slaughters similar to wounded knee.
All governments either are or can become tyrannical. Even this government (when controlled by progressives) will never be satisfied until either all guns are registered and can be immediately confiscated or they outright confiscation them. Furthermore, without the right to bear arms government will have a free hand to do whatever it desires and will not be satisfied until the individual is completely controlled. No government is trustworthy and must always be watched there is only one reason the second amendment was put in place within our constitutions bill of rights, that is to curtail a tyrannical government. Every centralized government is potentially tyrannical. Our founders knew this and provided as best they could, at the time, so we may curtail such actions. The bigger that centralized government the more corrupt and overbearing regarding individual freedoms. Most without oversight become tyrannical. The current administration has nearly curtailed all oversight.
Our founders had just gone through a horrific experience fighting the tyrannical government of King George. Why would anyone not expect them to provide a way to avoid such a thing reoccurring in the future? Furthermore, the whole constitution was written to avoid government overreach the very thing that is happening “right now” at this very minute today and has been happening, “with some exceptions” under every president, since Wilson. Governments are inherently corrupt the government of the United States of America is no different. Never trust a government (or individual for that matter) that suggests you give up rights “to” government for protections “by” government, it cannot ever happen. No one, absolutely no one, can protect you better then you can protect yourself. A centralized government cannot protect you individually better than you can protect yourself. Never, absolutely never allow them to take or cause you to register you guns. NEVER. If we as a nation relinquish our constitutional right to our guns or submit to total registration we will soon be no better then China, Russia or 1930’s Germany. That should be clear to everyone regardless of political party. No man can or will ever be truly free without means of self protection “especially” from government. Governments have a tendency to concentrate on the collective when left on their own because the collective has the most influence over them (ie: one vote vs thousands or millions). But it is the individual our constitution protects. It must remain that way.
It is true people do get killed with guns here in the US. No one can deny that. It is also fact people get killed with guns where guns are banned as well. Most importantly it is also true guns save lives and curtail crime as well everyday here in the US. However, we are a nation of over 310 million people. If we gave all three hundred ten million or so pencils somehow some would wind up killing others. Guns are not the problem. Governments (people) are the problem and also the reason we need those guns. Liberal progressives propose we relinquish our guns and our constitutional right to keep and bear arms. Our only way of protecting ourselves! Only a fool would do that and only a tyrant would want it!
This nation has tried the restrictive method for nearly a hundred years now (since Wilson) and they have not worked. Should another method not be tired now like for instance reduce the controls on them and making the punishment for any crime committed with a firearm much more severe and if a gun is fired during that commission perhaps the death penalty with only one appeal. The only way to reduce the commission of gun crimes is to increase punishment on those persons responsible not in attempting to punish the weapon or the law abiding citizen. All that does is cause many more problems. Increasing punishment concentrates on the criminal not the law abiding citizen.
Everyone with any brains at all knows every act of violence is not perpetrated by guns. But nearly every action of self defense involves a gun of some kind. That should be clearly seen as an enhancement to liberty and self-determination, no freedom is possible without the ability to protect oneself from all forms of harm. A gun makes that possible. It is the great equalizer.
Just ask a liberal progressive gun control advocate why the current, ten thousand or more gun laws already on the books have not stopped gun violence. Their answer (if it is sensibly cohesive) may very well be the basis for convincing them of the absolute fact restrictive gun laws do not work because criminals and potential criminals do not obey laws. Take away the guns and you form a nation of bullies even to the extent of government being the biggest bully.
Excellent post, you sound like a writer; just one issue with it. “Liberal Progressive” is a politically correct term for “Communist”. Communist is the nature of the beast we call Democrat. Even Debbie Wasserman-Schultz would not say the words, Communist or Socialist.
The only new gun law I would like to see is as follows; Commit a crime with a gun on you, 5 years added to your sentence with no chance of reduction in time served. Pull the gun out of concealment add 10 years. Discharge the weapon,even if you do not actually shot somebody, make it 15. Non of the hundreds of other local and federal gun laws has stopped any “BAD GUYS” from using weapons, maybe this would at least keep them off the streets longer
Annie, Get your Gun! A Global system built upon lies, thievery, and corruption has a way of collapsing in on itself. And folks, I believe we are in the moment.
Obviously, some feel they must control the planetary ant farm. Who might they be? They are the driving force behind the most powerful of all evils, MONEY.
These folks, the PTB have truly created a wicked web of chocking legal entanglements, and well placed puppets. They’ve actually succeeded in creating a monetary cult built of paper. Yet that was not enough to feed the greed of the wealth mongers, so they issue a piece of numbered plastic to all the ants to encourage more debt. All the ants go wild and spend money they earned yet. Its a wonderful Pyramid built on debt, and every single ant gets a numbered score to boot!
To whom do us ants owe the money? With Trillions printed, what is the true value? Backed by what?
I read so many comments from those of great patriotism, yet we fail to come together as ONE.
Its come to a point where we’ll have to burn the paper, recycle the plastic and start a new system backed by a new standard of equal humanitarian ethics. All us ants the world over know we’ve been duped. With the paper we hold being close to worthless, change is upon us. The Pyramid is crumbling before our eyes.
Scott, money is not evil. It has no intent of its own or ability to do anything by itself. The love of money is the root of all evil.
I’m not very literate. But you very close to my heart and knowledge of whats going in our country. It’s very scary to have knowledge sometimes and that time is now. I to believe our Pyramid is about to crumble. Now is the time we need to be able to protect ourselves. Bad guys already have guns and are getting more daily. This legislation will never stop that. It will only make it harder for us to protect ourselves. Obama has really screwed our country up. We probably don’t know how badly yet. When they take my guns it will be from my cold dead hands.
Scott you nailed it. This Ashkenazi world domination scheme began over 100 years ago and really began to take shape in the 1950’s. Senator McCarthy warned the U.S. Government about this problem and was laughed at. Nakita Kruschev the Russian Prime Minister told the U.S. that Russia would bury us in 1963. Guess what? These guys seem to be both right. The Ashkenazi’s who left Russia and Germany during WWII have made their way into the U.S. and invaded our Government, Hollywood, the media and the educational system. They are today’s “Progressives”. They are winning the war without firing a shot!
It has been proven time and again,, in other nations,, what happens after (gun control) happens. There has been races, political, Christians, and others deleted from that nation. Guns, knives, sling shots, our brains are all weapons. Will they take all those and more away. I think not. BUT no matter what happens here, in this nation I fought for,, GOD wins in the end, and in His own timing. He wins,, they lose, U can believe that. Do U know Jesus as Lord and Saviour ?? Time is getting close,, check it out,, gospel of John and more. Rom. 10:9*10. Confess His as Lord, because u believe in your heart, the Jesus is the Son of the Father. and He will do the rest, and give, or grant u salvation of your spirit, soul, and body,, for all time….amen
I AM 65 YEARS OF AGE & BECAUSE OF 2 POLICE OFFICERS, 30 YEARS AGO I STILL CANNOT PURCHASE ANY WEAPON! BECAUSE ANY JUDGE WILL TAKE THE WORD OF AN OFFICER OVER YOUR WORD “HE DOES NOT LIE”
god bless you. we (the world) CANNOT EXIST WITHOUT serving JESUS CHRIST our creator and father. we must bring him back to our schools and public places.
I remember when my father, his brother and my grandfather discussed how un-American the Nazi Germany was. They discussed how the Gestapo use to make lists on everybody and everything. They felt that having being placed on a list was the start of something terrible. No one needed to know something about you and place you on a list.
Just recently, American’s are starting to fight back about being placed on the no fly list that the Government has placed over 250,000 American’s with or without reason. These poor people were placed on this list and were not told until they tried to board the plane. When they ask why; no reason was given. When asked how to find out why they were on the list; they were told it was none of their business.
Fifteen people sued the Federal Government and won their case against the Government, according to the U.S. District Court out of Oregon. You see, the Government had put these people on a no-fly list with out the ability to redress there decision, not to mention that the Government didn’t have just cause. Lease ways one that they would care to mention in open court.
Now the Federal Government wants to put all registered gun owners on a national data base. Why? Because of some trumped up BS cause or reason? NO, it is another form of controlling the masses. If the Government wants to know who is armed then this will tell them who. Once again, your name, address, telephone number, age and other data will be at their finger tips. Not to mention that this information will be shared with the local law enforcement. Everybody and their brother-in-law will know that you are armed and where you can be found.
MY question is this, “WHO’S BUSINESS IS IT ANYWAY? It sure as HELL not my Government’s. It isn’t the local law enforcement agency, and it is sure as HELL not my neighbors or any other busy-bodies out there. The Government and these other butt-in-ski’s are violating one of my major Constitutional rights: “The right of privacy.”
My Government doesn’t need to make a list of gun owners. It will only become to numerous and unmanageable in the long run. It will also cost Millions of dollars to keep and maintain. They can spend my tax dollar by keeping their big noses out of my business.
It is ironic how we as a country condemned an enemy for using lists to maintain control over its citizens; when just a few decades later the United States Government started doing the same damn thing.
Start telling your elected officials that you will not be put on any Government list. Tell them that you will not tolerate the Government creating a list to identify gun owners or any other list. Its bad enough that AARP knows where you live; so why does the government need to know?
nicely stated.
Frank,
Here is the main problem that I see within their plan. As some of you know, I am a combat veteran and a former U.S. Army Military Police Officer and Investigator. The Army has recognized the importance, just like in many major cities to limit the law abiding citizen to weapons being stored on post. Some posts have a specific armory set aside just for “Legal” weapons storage and the Armories have the authority to deny you access to your properties if in fact you have been deemed mentally unstable by the Mental Health, or placed on specific drugs. However, getting back to the subject… Most people in general have forms of PTSD and have sought help in dealing with this problem. “If you have not been subjected to a stay in a mental facility,” one has the right to bear arms. That doesn’t say that any assistance that you receive from Metal Hell- th on a military installation or at the local VA will not be reported to the DHS. I tend to place myself in circles that involve Veterans. Within the past two letters, several of my friends have received letters from the VA or Government, stating that they must report to Mental Health for screening, in order to keep their legally purchased weapons. Many of these men and women have come to me for advise. When asked, only 80% have claimed some sort of PTSD from combat. Most have been issued medications to help control their emotions and 20% are those that held a specialty career field such as special forces. Don’t be fooled that the government is hereto help. In most cases, they are here to collect data and information regarding your weapons cache. There are now anti firearms messages located on the electronic propaganda boards and literature that readily available in most areas of VA Hospitals. Your rights as an American is simply slipping away, because of the data already collected by most Veterans Services provided by the U.S. Government. Yet they will not devote the effort to stop the illegal arming of convicted felons or criminals. In fact, there has been news as of late about a certain senator that dealt in the trafficking of illegal weapons.
Government and local government needs to incarcerate criminals for gun crimes, not lesser sentences. If it’s 10 or 20yrs ex con with a gun, then the full time should be spent in prison. 7yrs for manslaughter give, me a break murder is murder..I could, go on and on. Don’t penalize the citizen, penalize the criminals. Have some …….
I am a gun owner and hunter and support the 2nd amendment, but unfortunately we Americans have lost our backbone . yes we talk tough but if a federal swat team began going door to door tomorrow to confiscate our guns we would sheepishly turn them all over…we as a nation have already have gone far from past the point of a tyrrenical government in control of our lives and our country yet we keep you this amendment in our closets and our gun safes ignoring the very reason the founding fathers gave it to us.
Guns in the hands of peasants always makes the aristocracy uncomfortable. The liberals are already moving to control the population with all the benefits and free stuff they offer the ignorant to buy elections. The increased food stamps and free rebates and money is government control. These lemmings need to wake up to what is happening to their freedom. They control the food, the power, and want to take our weapons. The same thing happened in England and Canada. Don’t let it happen here!
Who are you to call those of us who are truely disabled … “ignorant or lemmings” ?!?!
I am a Reverend who was made disabled by a female driver who had no insurance, was drunk and high on stolen oxycodone when she hit me. I was sitting still waiting on a light when she hit me doing 45mph in a four wheel drive.
Being disabled is bad enough in itself to the person who is disabled. People like you act like being disabled is some sort of paid vacation that we requested … that kind of attitude about the truely disabled is sickening.
I am NOT saying that there aren’t those who get a check who shouldn’t. As a matter of fact I have filed several complaints on someone who has been getting a check for years because this person supposedly can’t work, yet this person has been working full time for cash under the table. Yet social security has done nothing about it.
Don’t bundle all “disabled” together, some of us truely are disabled.
God watches over all of us … you have to defend your rights and yourself though. God is NOT the only one watching.
im disabled too. don’t think he was lumping us all into one catergory,he was talking about the baby factories, and able people standing on street corners all day acting all tough, and getting paid for it.
Get informed, july 1st 2014 US House Bill 2847 takes effect. Many well educated investment advisors believe this bill will begin the removal of the us $ as the choice for international monitary exchange world wide. When this happens the us $ value will drop to a level that will cause the President to invoke the Capitol control of all monitary assets of Americans. Gun Control is just one step in the plans to continue the actions needed to insure Population control.
what would be awesome is if we the people could find an attorney that could make a legal document that could be signed by the people,by internet, to limit all of congress to a two term limit so they would not have power and control. it should be about what the people want not what they think is best for us
Amen. Limited Terms for Congress must be made into Law. They should also have to use Medicare for their health insurance and Social Security for their retirement!
I think there should absolutely 1 year term limits. that would take away the power from lobbyists. and the legislators would have to go out in the public and live with the laws they made. plus they don’t deserve the great health insurance and retirements that they can vote for themselves. i’d like to be able to do that too
I have the perfect solution for term limits–one election
every six years–elect president and both houses of congress–1 term and no more for all of them.
I would like to include a few more important points for consideration:
1. Pay and insurance benefits while in office only … once back in the private sector get a job your own insurance just like everyone else.
2. No lifetime pensions/benefits period. Out of office …off the public tab.
3. Social Security/Medicare just like those you have represented. If its broke, then fix it or just live with it as the private side does.
4. While in office, every bill/law stands or falls on its own merits. No amendments added to gain someone’s vote. Not a hard concept to follow. If its worthwhile it should pass, if not, let it fall.
5. Laws concerning lawmakers/politicians apply to the general population equally and laws concerning the general population applies just as equally to the lawmakers/politicians. AND NO ONE exists outside the law. (This is reportedly in the works as a Constitutional Amendment.)
6. No lobbyists. Since you are in office to represent your area, do your due diligence and find out what is needed or resign. You are not a paid mantel display piece. If you refuse or can’t do your job as constitutionally required per your oath … LEAVE and let someone who can.
These should be a real good start to problem resolution.
I couldn’t agree with you more on all points. Let’s all get together and make this happen.
NIck, well said, that is the problem with the whole government. corrupt because of lobbyists. and all the amendments that get added on as riders. Take one bill at a time and vote on it. Term limits are a must.
Wynn, it would ber awesome. Unfortunately, Senators and Representatives can cheat by the use of “gerry mandering”. That is to say they can change the scope of their districts in order to get re-elected. I’ve been toying with an idea: “Make every vote count by counting every vote.” There would be no need for re-districting and getting rid of our current ‘Primaries” and the ‘ college electorate’ system would no longer be needed. I thinkg rather than allowing big industry to eliminate candidates that wouldn’t feel an obligation to them, meaning the obscene amounts of campaign donations allowed, “..We the People” would have more than 2 or three candidates to choose from. We could up to 20 candidates to choose from and we’d all get to vote FOR our personal choice and not having to resort to voting for the “lesser of two evils” by voting AGAINST a candidate. “Make every vote count by counting every vote.”
President Obama has already taken control out of the hands of Congress by stating publicly that he will act without Congress to get his way. Remember? He has a pen and a phone.
Do I detect marshal law if he doesn’t get his way?
You said that just right. I will sign just tell me where.
Surely there are millions of lawful/legal gun owners out there,,,Why is it everytme some sort of horrible mass shooting occurs,,The legal gun owner(s) gun(s) are blamed????
Because it is easy to blame someone that has a gun verses someone that doesn’t. It doesn’t matter if you are authorized to carry a weapon; it only matters if you use it on someone.
Right now, there are a lot of people upset because of a 18 year old boy was shot by a police officer in Ferguson, Mo. I bet that if you ask any of those protesters if they would prefer to be armed or left defenseless against their local police department; they would say that they would feel safer owning a weapon. After all, their local police department has become insensitive to their needs and lack any concern for the community’s welfare. So who is going to take care of these people in a time of crisis? They are going to have to take care of themselves.
You won’t hear any complaints from them.
Why do you need to be a gun owner to understand ,,,the criminal/criminal intent will not subject themselves to any type of background check,,these recent horrendous shootings took place in “GUN FREE ZONES”,Had a law enforcement officer been on duty,who do you think would have ,,at least been shot second,,quite possibly first!!!
Check out the incoming school agenda “Common Core ” and learn what your children are being/going to be taught, and see why they don’t understand absolutes. There are no rights or wrongs in the new standards. God help us!
Oh my Gosh you are so right Phyllis. I can’t believe what my grandson comes home and says. Stuff he is being taught in school. Like Fox News is biased. He recently came home to tell us he is an atheist because believing in God is something people do when they need something to lean on. God is a myth. Taught in his school. I to could go on. God help us all!!
we allready have background checks the form you fill
out when purchasing a firearm , before you walk out with your firearm the seller has called in your in purchase and told yes or no it only takes 15 minutes. some states impose waiting periods however they are not federal law. The only reason THE Gov. wants universal checks is to take another step towards dissarming the law abiding citzens who have had it with a corrupt goverment. CRIMINALS DONT BUY GUNS THEY CAN’T PASS THE BATF CHECK THEY STEAL THEIR WEAPONS. Wake up americans if the time matched the crime we could solve thep problem.
You guys are a bunch of paranoid republicans that believe people need guns for safety. No guns means no shootings duh!
John, if that is so… How do you explain the fact that ALL the latest mass shootings have been in GUN FREE zones ????
Without the First Amendment and your guarantee to “Freedom of Speech” you would not be able to express the opinion you just rendered….
Better think about it…..
It’s not about guns per se it’s about the preservation of your and our freedoms…take one away then why not all…
Then you’ll be living in a completely tyrannical country…with no Right to say anything….
Do you want that?
I am most concerned with the right to bear arms. without that we have nothing to protect ourselves. i sleep good at night knowing i can protect myself
I can guarantee that the 1st time someone kicks in your door you’ll be eating those words if you live that long
I can guarantee that anyone who kicks in my door will not live long. And you and all the rest of the scared democrats can chew on that for a long time.
No GUNS means NO Protection. If you thought that someone had a gun and was willing to use it, would you mess with them or leave them alone?
You can’t always count on the police to protect you and your family, especially when they are the ones doing the shooting.
paranoid republicans? You seriously think that taking guns from law abiding citizens will rid the world of guns? have you not heard of alkaida, isis, government,( our own included?) you think they will give up their arms if you don’t have them?? You are a dumbocrat, aren’t you??
That’s what they said in Germany an Russia, you stupid, arrogant unamerican liberal.
John, were your parents brother and sister, or something? you are an idiot.. I would be ashamed to have even thought that statement up, or to have posted it.. Guns do not kill people, nor do bullets, nor knives… People kill other people… But, if a responsible, trained person,not were armed and intervened, on the behalf of the weak or undefended, the outcome would be different or maybe, they would at least have a chance.. As a retired soldier, and former police officer, I can say I have been asked to do violent acts, to defend others, be the were weaker or undefended, either outmatched or unarmed… I would happily do it again, if it were necessary…
in my statement, it should have read,”a responsible trained individual, not just a cop,were armed and intervened…”
My computer seems to be having issues of its own, right now…
john … there is more violence in austrailea now then ever before… now the criminals have guns and you dont ..you see it makes it easier for criminals to do what they want to the good people in aust….i will go down fighting before i give up my guns
typical liberal, when you cant reply with intelligence its, DUH just like bob bickel.
To paraphrase ” you will take my Gun by prying it out of my hand after I am dead and Rigor has set in!!
and I will pickup where you left off.
Love both of you. I may be 63yrs old woman. But I will be next in line. Then my retired military daughter and retired son in law.
Not 100% butmaybe99.99% sure that anytime you purchase any kind of firearm, they do a nics check with the fbi. Pistol, rifle or shotgun.even with a ccw permit. I’ve asked why if I already have a valid ccw permit, do I still have to fill out all the paperwork everytime I purchase a firearm? Was told that it’s to make sure that I have’nt had a judgement against me since the permit was renewed.we even have to fill out paperwork at the gunshows, so I don’t get all this talk about “the gunshow loophole”. Maybe I’m ignorant? Probably just need to be sent to the re-edumacation camp fer some learnin’. ENOUGH ALREADY!!!
Remind anyone of the Gestapo or KGB???
Those that do not study, remember or ignore history are doomed to repeat it!!!
GD, you are absolutely correct.. Now, we know who failed history..
Sorry, but no dice. The anti gunners would first have to remove Title 18 USC Section 926 which clearly states that there can be NO registration list if at any time said list can or will be used as a confiscation list. Punishment for violating this law is a minimum of 10 years in prison and or a $25,000 fine. And as per federal regulations and statutes, each separate day the law is in violation, is a separate chargeable offense complete with prison time and or fines. As per this law the ONLY people that can make a list is the BATF and even they cannot use it for a confiscation list. so this law stops any and all background checks cold.
Since when would Obama, Holder, Pelosi, Laumer, Schumer, Reid, and Hilary Clinton let the USC stop them? They are infamous for ignoring the Constitution, and United States Code. Never depend on Stautory law, and the Constitution from stopping these people from doing anything!
If you think that the government cannot break the law and confiscate any thing they wish just look at what laws DOJ has ignored and what Obama has circumvented. Law to this administration and perhaps future administration are for the electret, not for them.
Puuuleeez laws apply to law abiding people. Since when has a law stopped or even slowed obama and minions. Most recent example are Obamacare. Laws which are routinely broken by mr pres. To exempt this group or another from health care bs. Im sure his buddies can keep the plans and doctors they have. Wake up and smell the coffee
Well there is a problem with what you just said. This government doesn’t follow the law of the land what makes you think they would enforce this or even acknowledge it
OUTLAW GUNS,,ONLY OUTLAWS WILL HAVE GUNS I TS A BIG JOKE AGAINSTTHE SECOND ADMENDMENT AND FREEDOM(S) OF LAW-ABIDING CITIZENS..
I don’t understand the WEBSITE,,,My comment:”OUTLAW GUNS<>>BACKGROUND CHECK(S) IS JUST ANOTHER NME/MEANS FOR CONTOLLING THE LAW-ABIDING CITIZEN(S)
NO CRIMINAL/CRIMINALINTENT PERSON(S) WILL/WOULD SUBJECT THEMSELVES TO A BACKGROUND CHECK.
If the currernt background checks are ineffective, what can they possably do to increase them and make them effective? Answer – nothing…
you can not keep guns out of the hands a of a person that wants one. Even if you could, a sane person w/ a gun can crack and use one at any time so what difference does it make? Of course this isn’t the real issue. The real issue is control. My question is why does our government need control? they say homeland security, the boogy man is going to get us. I repeat, why does the government need to control the citizens of this country? If you can come up with a factual answer and not hear say or speculation, I would like to hear it. Show it to me in black and white or tell me where to look it up, I want to know. then tell me why you voted for the present government officials. Some one had to and I sure as hell didn’t.
Amen to your observation that gun control. It is just that. Have you considered all of the other ways the would take control? E. P. A., obamacare, what you can eat and drink,and ect. If you really want to know the real control effort look up the united nations proposed agenda 21. Glen Beck has written a good look at where we could actually end up if our cities, states, and fed’s keep taking away our freedoms and empowering government to control every thing. The read is in his book 21. We and the constitution and Americans are under attack and each restrictive law they can pass puts us closer to the world wide push to total control of every aspect of our lives. Thanks Barry
Way to go Barry! I wish everyone would read that book, and also The Overton Window, and The Eye of Moloch. We the People need to open our eyes and put a stop to “big government”…. Also Glenns book Gun Control can explain the answers to a lot of questions people ask. Read and learn. If you don’t read, what is the point of learning too!
Look up “End Game” on youtube… It will make you think about all that the government is trying to do… Also watch the movie “2016, Obama’s America”… I did NOT vote for this administration either..
Control = POWER. What do you give to the man that HAS EVERYTHING. POWER, DICTATORSHIP.It is not enough for these personalities to be successful.Far to many are involved in politics for the WRONG reason.The change that these folks are looking for is really not to GIVE POWER BACK TO THE PEOPLE.Look at the Democrats for example .WE will GIVE YOU medical care.housing,education,food,phones.WHAT ELSE but making people as dependent as possible on government and then taking credit for ALL those things.Reminding VOTERS The DEMOCRATS did this for you. WHY? For a VOTE and VOTE =POWER
Me neither Earl…I never voted for that @$$clown or any of his circus freaks either..What helped him win, was organized crime,the mob, not mafia..
I guess if this law goes into effect, I will become an “outlaw” according to the government… If the law goes into effect, just bury or hide your guns.. Or commit a criminal act, of filing a false “home invasion ” or burglary, and your guns were stolen from you…
When obama was elected presedent,his fist act was to secretly
Work ona bill to place a gun tax on every firearm you have in your home.
Keep the taxpayer in check ,and you will have where you want them, just rememberwe do not haveany rights ,only the government does.
This is our own fault,because we gave our rights away.
Pappa smerf.
They know they can’t come right out an git our guns because of the 2nd amendment but…they are going to tax or close down any thing that has to do with guns like just closing the major lead factory. EPA can do anything they want they have a blank check. The only reason we still have some freedoms is we still have our guns. I used to think the Army was on our side but since the Liar in Chief he has put all the communist in place.
It is another way for the government to take your gu s
CALIFORNIA HAS HAD BACKGROUND CHECKS FRO OVER 2 DECADES. DOES NOT DO ANY THING TO STOP CRIME. LOS ANGELS HAS THE HIGHEST CRIME RATE IN THE COUNTRY. WE HAVE NO CONCELED CARRY LAWS . SO THAT MAKES EVERY ONE A TARGET FOR THE GUN TOTING CROOKS AND RAPIST. IT’S A MISDEMENOR FOR CARRYING A CONCELLED WEAPON AND JAIL. YOU CARRY AND PROTECT YOURSELF FROM A FELON AND SHOOT THEM. YOU GO TO JAIL . HOPE YOU KILL HIM, OR THEY PUT YOU IN THE SAME CELL. CA. ALREADY HAS A DATA BASE AT THE DOJ ON ALL GUN OWNERS. CONFISCATION HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR OVER A YEAR NOW. VETERANS WITH PTSD AND MENTAL PATIENTS THAT HAVE BEEN IN A PHYC HOSPITAL AND RELEAESED WITH A SAIN DIOGNOSES. YES NOT A THREAT TO THE PUBLIC! COPS HERE SHOOT PEOPLE IF YOU HAVE CELL PHONE IN YOUR HAND IF YOUR TOLD TO STOP, OR GET OT OF YOUR CAR. I SAW A VIDEO WHERE A GUY WAS TOLD TO LIFT HIS SHIRT AND WHEN HE DID THEY SAW A GUN IN HIS WASTE BAND AND THEY SHOT HIM 15 TIMES. THEY HAVE A REGISTRY HERE AND THERE GOING THROUGH IT DAY BY DAY AND GOING AFTER PEOPLES GUNS. NO BS!!
South Carolina, does not register guns.. Damn liberals..
Just to let everyone out there know, I hate both Democrats and Republicans… We need more than just three parties, to choose from.. Also, that weasel, that ran as a Independent, and then showed his true colors, should be tarred and feathered… I won’t name names..
Yes, your 4th paragraph was exactly correct. There was never any ‘safety’ or crime prevention rationale for background checks as the government stated. There couldn’t be because background checks have been proven NOT to prevent crimes. Even if the check itself temporarily kept a firearm out of the hands of a person intending to commit a crime, they could get one illegally, or simply use another type of equally deadly and sometimes more heinous weapon, In fact, Klipangle states in his book that ‘a free country allows the potential for any violent action by any means. But allows for free thinkers to prevent all violence without the need for tyrannical measures’.
We recently had an ‘in-your-sheeple-face’ reality check when at least two of our high government officials like about spying on us, Even the Prez said they ‘don’t listen in on our calls or read our emails. So we know they’ll never tell us the truth about their gun confiscation agenda. Even while they continue the intensity of their eventual confiscation agenda. Since they couldn’t pass the Universal Fascist Background Checks’ law they went back door and choked off the ammo supply by excessive agency purchases and locking future orders from large manufacturers and by holding up import shipments at customs. Scarcity then drove up the cost which prevented many from stocking adequate personal supplies.
But They’re not stopping there. Recently The Hitlarian regime of Illinois duped their dole laden sheeple into allowing a new Universal background check’ law of their own which effectively closes the ‘gunshow loophole’ and forces all private gun sales to undergo a check at a local police station! So they’ll get their ‘total Universal Population Control’ one way or the other. One state at a time, if they have tol
Interestingly, i just spotted, then lost, some news flash on a Southern State, i believe, trying to vacate themselves from any and all Federal gun laws?
The point being that since we can’t trust a government anymore who spies,on its citizens and lies on national TV and uses the insulting excuse of the cover of ‘national security’ which the G itself weakens and threatens and violates more than anyone else with their expanding police state’ tactics, it’s not going to matter soon, whether or not you get to keep your guns or not if you don’t have ANY freedoms left at all?!
Shortly after being sworn in for his second term Obama signed a modified law giving him complete Almighty authority of all natural and commercial resources of the nation in a ‘ global state of emergency’. All fuel, food, water, and transportation! God doesn’t even have that power! And needless to say, if he had the ‘universal background check’ in place. The ‘potential’ danger of all those civilian weapons will also have to be ‘moderated’. So, like the forced gold confiscations of prior economic depressions, You will be required by ‘law’ to turn in your guns or face the ‘consequences’ of para-military police at your door–for only a second or two before they smash it in and toss in a flash bang.
Folks, They use LAWS to control us. We only have one means to turn that around and it won’t be armed revolution. We lost that ability when we ‘allowed’ the g to monitor all our communications at will, and shortly, all of our freedom of movement and travel will be gone when the license plate recognition and tracking equipment on police vehicles is in full progress around 2015. With every thing you do and purchase and say and everywhere you drive being put in a date base, a physical revolution will never even get started. Remember, Congress ‘approved’ continued funding of the continued future NSA spying on average citizens with no restraints in the interest of homeland security!
There’s only one chance left and we have to make it to the first base camp by these Congressional elections coming soon at midterm. WE, the People must get off our armchairs and blog posts–unless to coordinate positive physical movements– and petition and force-elect officials who will stop the tyrannical efforts to usurp our freedoms. America still has a pretty functional election/voting system despite its flaws, so that must become our real revolution. We have to TAKE BACK THE LAWS in favor of Liberty above anything else! There’s not much time left before all the guns in the world won’t be able to save us.
Understand gun control is just one of the weapons being used against America: Its not for nothing that Marx tied destroying Capitalism to removing God. And that butcher Stalin understood “America
is like a healthy body and its resistance is threefold: its patriotism, its
morality, and its spiritual life. If we can undermine these three areas,
America will collapse from within.”
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