What! You don’t want to pay higher taxes? You must be part of the “violent far right!”
Over the past few years as we’ve seen one freedom after another taken away from American citizens, I’ve occasionally consoled myself by looking at our military. I’ve done this not only to remind myself about the military power we possess to keep us safe from foreign attack, but also because of the strong values that members of the military have always seemed to share with patriots such as us.
But a couple of recent stories in the news have troubled me and made me wonder what’s going on these days in our Armed Forces. I’m hearing that U.S. soldiers who are open about their Christian faith are taking heat for it, and now I see a story about cadets being taught that patriots are terrorists. I’m not making that up. It’s true!
Professor Arie Perliger, Director of Terrorism Studies at the Combating Terrorism Center and Assistant Professor at the Department of Social Sciences at West Point, has authored a 148-page report urging enlisted men and women to be on alert for “terrorists” in the form of those who consider themselves patriots.
The report, which implies that Conservatives are backward, archaic and living in an era that has passed them by, also suggests that liberals are future-oriented and progressive in their views. Perliger connects the “violent far right” with people who don’t think that government should intrude on constitutional rights, fundamentalist Christians, survivalists, gun-rights advocates, libertarians, pro-lifers and those who oppose high taxation.
This article from AmericanFreePress.net, “West Point Cadets Taught Patriots Are Terrorists.” is a real eye-opener. How many times can we say, “What the heck is going on?” before we realize that it all comes down from the top? When the country’s administration has made it clear that it wants government to control everything and that it is opposed to the values that made us great as a nation, it’s only a matter of time before the trickle down effect takes hold.
Does it surprise you that now our West Point cadets are being “trained” to associate conservative thinkers with the “violent far right?” Do you think this is an isolated incident, or part of an overall plan to change America from what it was into what the administration wants it to be? I’d love to hear your thoughts about this important subject.
Well, my church is doing what we can; bringing cadets to our facility and giving them a hot meal prepared in our kitchen at no charge. Volunteers serve them and tell them how much we appreciate their service for our country. If they want, they can stay for the evening service or we bus them back.
What I find ironic about this whole idiology is that what the Point is essentially doing is asking their cadets to commit to serving an agency that, if these cadets ever have pride in their service, that agency will brand them an enemy, once tbey no long choose to serve said agency!
It’s all called obama. What a wonderful man?
I’ve always felt that religion is something that should be personal and private. It’s everyone’s right but most seem to think it has to be loud and in everyone’s face. Pray all you want, it’s up to you to waste your time but what’s going on with hassling the religious and teaching some kind of idiotic political agenda is another drop in the sea of things that aren’t right. What do you expect of a government that has become the enemy of it’s people?
I wish you people would use the real word about what is going on with the military. It is BRAIN WASHING plain and simple. I guess people need to be politically correct all I have to say to that is BULLSHIT.
I am not the least surprised of the teachings of WEST Point students that Patriots are terrorists. I have known for a few years now that Muslims from CAIR and other Muslim Brotherhood wings are infiltrated in the Pentagon, Police forces, Homeland Security, etc. and if you keep up with the Tea Party and Freedom press you would know too.
I recall when attending church on the Siganella Nato base(read US Navy) in Sicily that we all sang the Hymns dedicated to those who we casualties in the air. I found out a few years ago that all that has been forbidden. Watch out folks, Benedict Arnold has returned to West Point. We are all in danger. Please talk to these youngsters and get them to wise up and know what is really happening out there. Cheers
As a veteran and conservative I am deeply troubled by many of the changes the Obama administration is trying to ram down our throats. As a person with absolutely no military experience he has no right to direct what is taught in America’s military academies. He is attempting to usurp the military and turn it into his own personal police force. As long as America can withstand this onslaught there will be NO new world order. It is time for Americans to wake up and take their country back from the traitorous left wing government in place, NOW.
Progressive, Liberalism, Communism, it’s all the same. Name one country that has adopted these policies and thrived. Even Russia collapsed under these policies. If we continue in the same direction we’ll do the same. You can’t do the same thing and expect a different result.
Let me begin with the footnote that I am a graduate of West Point and served in the military, albeit many years ago. The publication by Dr. Perliger was featured on the West Point Counter Terrorism website in Jan 2013. Once it was published I led a group of classmates in reviewing the data and the hypothesis of the publication. The conclusions reached in the study (presented as having received “peer review”) could never have been sold to any CEO within any US business or any market researcher who could analyze the research data presented.
After multiple reviews and discussion, I presented the findings to the Dean of Students under whose auspices the CTC resides for comment, the Superintendent of the US Military Academy, and the President of the Association of Graduates. No one was willing to address the flaws we found. Ultimately, the Dean was forced to invite representatives of the three classes that were making major contributions to support the CTC. The major defense to these classes was that a subsequent study would shortly be published that went after “Left Wing Terrorists” and that this companion piece should soothe the wrinkles of the first study.
After this promise and 21 months later, the Dean admitted privately to me that the Left Wing study cold not be published because the data did not support it. He admitted that the communications associated wit the Right Wing Terrorists study had been poorly handled, BUT no action was planned to correct what had been left in place. I was reminded of this when President Obama suggested that the Senate and Congressional losses of 2014 were due to “poor communications” as well.
While I had many concerns expressed in writing and on radio at the time, my biggest concern remains the impact that someone such as Dr. Perliger also has the primary responsibility of teaching all cadets at West Point about terrorism.
The military as I and many of my classmates knew it has changed! The things we fought and died for were done because of the beliefs we brought to and nourished at West Point. While some who assess this article may view it from many angles, I can assure you that many of my classmates and others who contacted me from across the Long Gray Line felt a bullet had been fired into our hearts.
God Bless America! (Note, these words alone place me in the category with George Washington as being a Right Wing Terrorist according to Dr. Perliger).
Anyone can consider themselves a patriot or patriotic. Even the Communist consider themselves patriotic. What we need to do (Conservative, Patiots, Pro-Life, Right Wingers) is to call ourselves Constitutionalist! This will clear up any misconception at to what you really stand for.
Nicolas
I know I’ll be hated for this but the problem with the USA is the constitution
Why don’t you explain yourself so the rest of us might be able to understand what’s wrong with our Constitution?
I totally agree with you! I started referring to myself as an Anti-Federalist. When government gets this big, it’s time to take it down a notch or two. Low information and laziness on the part of many Americans have led us to where we are now. I guess it’s time to take back our country. Won’t be quick and it won’t be easy. May even become bloody. But it will be worth it to save our beloved Republic from the socialistic brain-washing that’s going on.
I wonder how many of these cadets would tell themselves when they leave the arm forces. They too will be consider patriots terrorists. They probably talk to each other in private and say our country is turning into a neo nazi police state. Operation paperclip nazi scientist perform for too long mind control brainwashing. It seems like it still in progress in today’s world with too much properganda. The way George W. Bush got over on everyone about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Their wasn’t any nuclear deposits found. Their were areas found with nuclear in the second campaign after desert storm had drop a lot of bombs with nuclear fission. Iraq became cantaminated with radiation all over the place.. We are all in trouble with this government with so many lies and corruption. I’m sorry if I am going a little bit off from the subject with the cadets. But I’m trying to make my point on the past where these nazi war criminals took control of our government. These drones and satellites are one way of spying on us. I was kinda shock when Obama sign the form for Americans to kill Americans with drones. I don’t believe that I have to say anything anymore on this subject about brainwashing and turning against one’s own country fellow man.
Frank, I just finished reading, “West Point Cadets Taught Patriots Are Terrorists.” written by Victor Thorn. According to the report, Victor Thorn is a hard-hitting researcher, journalist and author of over 40 books. By the way this report reads, Victor Thorn is trying to write another book. He used so many large words that ment so little that I could boil it down to a few short paragraphs.
A professor by the name of Arie Perliger, wrote a scathing report about America, its citizens, and their view points as a possible danger to Israel. Professor Perliger, also indicated that there was a danger brewing in the military elite colleges such as West Point. Unfortunately, Professor Perliger is correct when he duly noted the brainwashing techniques he observed at the Point. What is really happening at West Point is that the cadets are being subjected to PSYOP Techniques.
It has been my experience as a Army soldier for 20 years, of which half was spent in a PSYOP Command, I can tell you first hand that this is how you convince the eager fresh minds to think the way you want them to. It is part of the gun-ho mentality that permeates the military. If you are a cadet at West Point and you want to belong; that is to say you want your fellow cadets, superior officers and the institution itself to look favorably upon you as a cadet, then you will bend to the will and consensus of the prevailing pattern or thought within that institution. The sad fact about this, it is true. These cadets are being taught a redefinition of the word PATROIT to mean Terrorist, through PSYOP Techniques.
What is PSYOP? In the military, it means this: PSY, Psychological, and OP, Operations for Psychological Operations. In short, mind games. For example: If you can convince someone that all people that have blue eyes are bigger, stronger, smarter than any other person and that people with brown eyes are likely to be troublemakers, slow, backwards, weak; then you just applied a Psyop Technique on both groups of people. You don’t need to have the truth. All you have to is imply, provide made up facts, figures, and documentation. Then treat all blue eye people better than you treat brown eye people; you will have half the people agreeing with you while the other half doubting themselves. People, after all, believe what they read in print or hear from someone in authority. This is PSYOPS.
The Government is redefining the word “Patriot” to associate it with terrorist because the Government is afraid of free thinker. If they can circumvent a potential problem, such as a law abiding citizen knowing his Rights, what better way than to devalue that person by calling him a terrorist because he calls himself a Patriot.
What really frosts my glass is that there are those in political office that holds the view about me and others like me, meaning people like you, a Constitutionist. A Constitutionist is a person that believes in the Constitution of the United States and what it stands for. Because I believe that our Government has strayed from the laws that are in our Constitution and its intent; or that our Government has bend the laws of our great nation to justify their illegal actions or inactions, I am now considered a “Terrorist” because I call myself a “PATROIT.” So Be IT!
Like I said earlier, I served my country for 20 years. I wore the uniform of the US Army, and proudly did so. I signed a contract which in part states, “to protect, defend, and uphold the laws of the Constitution of the United States of America.” “To defend” this country “against “ALL Enemies” Foreign and Domestic” So if anybody, should have the right to say, “I am a Patriot” then who better than someone who served this country with honour and distinction. What about my grandchildren? Why can’t they call themselves Patriots. They were born in this country. They are learning what it means to be a citizen of this country, How this country was founded and what it means to be free. So if I can call myself a citizen of the United States, if I can say that I am proud to be a citizen of this country, then why am I no longer allow to call myself a Patriot of this country without being associated as a terrorist. Perhaps, I need to start with my own PSYOP operation on our government. I’ll start with West Point.
Fantastic plan! I’m going to start a Congressional PSYOP lobby: “Congressmen are honest and ethical people who never make choices based on personal financial reasons.” “Congressmen trust in the ability of all people to make great life decisions.” Congress’s main goal is to work on making current laws better rather than creating new laws to limit constituents.”
THIS STORY REMINDS ME OF THE DAYS OF NAZI GERMANY. HITLER HAD HIS SURPREAM ARMY HE WAS BULIDING AND STARTED WITH YOUNG BOYS IN AN ACADAMY TO BULD HIS SUPER RACE. THEY WHERE BRAIN WASHED AND BUILT UP TO BE HITLERS SUPER ARMY.
I took an Oath to defend and protect the Constitution of the United States of America. My Oath did not mention the Government. Assuming that the Oath has not changed, these Cadets, and all others who enlist, are also charged with defending the Constitution. To say that a Patriot, left, right, or otherwise, is a terrorist, is to say that the Government and its employs have changed course, and are now the true enemy of our Constitution, which every member of our Armed Forces, past, present and future, takes an Oath to defeat. And as mentioned already, this Government may well consider Patriots a threat to their endeavors. Because we are.
I was ready to write just such a comment, but you have written it pretty much word for word. Well stated.
DITO!
Don’t worry. Environmentalists who try to protect both their neighborhoods and the nation’s wild places from industrial exploitation are considered to be terrorists as well.
Is that a pro-environmentalist response? or an anti-environmentalist response? The problem with liberals is that they have no thinking, moderate, middle ground. In the case of many so called “environmentalists”, -they are all about limiting rights and constitutional freedoms. They would protect everything if they could, to our nations overall detriment; and they are easily brainwashed by the NWO/financial elite power mongers, and their profit driven, liberty removing sham called “Global Warming”. Close to 50% of climate scientists are aware of the fallacy that is being perpetrated against the people, or realize that if our climate actually is warming, it is because of normal solar activity/cycles that occur naturally over millennia; just as there are cooling/colder periods, such as “ice ages”.
So, i am an energy auditor. Probably about as green-leaning and tree-hugging a job as can be. I am a small business owner, retired engineer, and an AMERICAN. I respectfully disagree with John’s assertion that the liberals have no thinking, moderate, middle ground. I also am a very good shot, and have prepped (ongoing). Trust me, you will want this “liberal” in your foxhole.
Don’t enlist , folks. Simple, let them do without us
That would only allow them to bring in the United Nations military right onto our soil. Do we have enough patriots willing to fight them to protect our rights or would the United States of America just roll over like so many countries did when Hitler showed up. He took some countries without ever firing a shot.
The instruments or war over seas will be used as instruments of tyranny at home
Have you noticed that the folks that in the 60’s and 70’s who then kept telling us not to interfere into their lives. They wanted to be free to do as they pleased. Those same ones are now telling the rest of us how to live, where to live and that we should pay for them. Whether college professor or politician the goal seems to be control of mind body and soul and all means of production.
Excellent point. It’s probably because many of them had no real prospects for serious income and realized that they could make a lot of money as a corrupt politician, through campaign donations, lobbying / bribery, kickbacks etc. It’s a sad (but true) fact as well that many of them are from the places most associated with the culture you were referring to, i.e. California, New York, Boston, Washington, Chicago, etc.
I agree with you to a point. I was a teenager during the late sixties, and my attitude was pretty much live and let live. Got married, raised my son, and finally looked at America. The live and let live era just gave the pro socialistic and pro communist factions to thrive. I really wish I would have been paying better attention.
This article is a slanted pile of crap. Domestic terrorism can be found residing in the far right and the far left. The far right most commonly masks itself in the disguise of “patriotism” while the far left masks itself as some sort of equal-rights-for-all, anti-corruption freedom-fighter. Shame on anyone who believes everything they read on the internet.
Actually this article is NOT c**p.
There are numerous documented artices published by the government recently that teaches conservatives ae to be considered “domestic terrorists” all the way from DHS to IRS…
Numerous articles> Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) ~In a Sunday interview, the head of the Department of Homeland Security defended including pro-life advocates in a new report the agency produced saying “opponents of abortion” are likely to engage in extremism or terrorism.
https://ixquick-proxy.com/do/highlight.pl?l=english&c=hf&cat=web&q=conservatives+domestic+terrorists&rl=NONE&rid=LILOKLMSRORR&hlq=https://ixquick.com/do/search&mtlanguage=english&mtpl=ff&mtcat=web&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lifenews.com%2Fnat4992.html&nwwndw=1
~A recent study, funded by DHS, characterizes Americans who are “suspicious of centralized federal authority,” and reverent of liberty” as “extreme right-wing” terrorists. In the study titled Hot Spots of Terrorism and Other Crimes in the United States, 1970 to 2008 produced by the National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism (START) at the University of Maryland,
Read more at http://freedomoutpost.com/2012/08/dhs-defines-the-new-terrorists-conservative-americans/#vdCO8JhGC0JaBAUH.99
~Earlier this week, The Heritage Foundation uncovered a disturbing posting on President Barack Obama’s perpetual campaign website, barackobama.com. Under the Organizing for America (OFA) banner, a user of the site had created an event urging fellow Obama supporters to use 9/11 as a day of action for Obamacare. The message urged Americans to call their U.S. Senators and “fight back against our own Right-Wing Domestic Terrorists who are subverting the American Democratic Process, whipped to a frenzy by their Fox Propaganda Network ceaselessly re-seizing power for their treacherous leaders.” It went on to call conservatives the heirs to Bin Laden. http://blog.heritage.org/2009/09/03/crossing-the-rhetorical-line-an-update/
It took just 2 minutes to find these articles. Reserach for an hour and you will find countless more…
A young female West Point Cadet described the general concensus of disappoinment and anger experienced by the graduating Cadets this year when BHO spoke at their graduation ceremonies and handed out their diplomas. There was silent outrage when he said the cadets serviced weren’t needed except to control Patriots, keep them where they belong. The cadets were told to applaud after each remark he made. By the end of his speech only 6 cadets were clapping out of hundreds. The Potus never noticed what happened and just kept talking about all the good things “he alone” has done to make our country better – a true narcissist, totally unaware of what anyone else thinks or does…only thinks “his” way is the only way. The Cadets were disgusted and angry because BHO wanted them to hunt their own people (did Not go over one bit with these cadets, but BHO never noticed) and that night BHO once again turned those that could of helped him into new found enemies of his office…quiet, expertly trained, enemies.
Mostly on the left, as moderates, libertarians, or conservatives, who consider themselves patriots, identify with the real America, and the conservative Christian libertarian values and principles this country was founded on (i.e. the right to self determination -which is liberty), and that they fought and died for to establish this nation, and maintain our freedom. A good and accurate film describing it is here:
http://www.hulu.com/watch/442918
If you have Amazon Prime, you can watch it here without commercial interruption:
http://www.amazon.com/Monumental-Search-Americas-National-Treasure/dp/B00AHSFOXS
This kind of article is a distraction all we need to do is go back to gods laws we had before the constitution and we will be truly free again as the pilgrems were
I have every confdence that the majority of Cadets are able to spec & dump what they are being taught. In otherwords, learn what they want you to learn, pass the test, then forget about because it is not relevant.
Those few who are swayed into believing a conservative view represents a threat will find themselves at odds with over 50% of our nation and over 90% of the Officer’s Ranks.
By the way, what is, and where is the violent right? All I see is criminals and gangbangers out there voting democrat for their monthly paychecks then boosting the drug industry growth. Skinheads are socialists, not rightwingers and I have yet to even see any property damage occuring at a Tea Party gathering let alone any violence!
Occupy Wall Street was the last episode the left perp’d onto our nation and between the rapes, drugs, and fouling up of park grounds with human waste, somehow the media was able to ignore painting an accurate picture!
The sad thing is this, when these Vets return to the US after serving in combat and especially those who retire after 20 years of service, they are shocked at what they find here in the US. It’s as though they served for principles that no longer exist. Worse, they have fought and suffered, and seen those around them wounded or killed, for a nation that no longer stands for the very reasons these young hero’s placed themselves at risk in the first place.
As a Grad, I find it outrageous that any political views/ideologies are being taught at the Academy and if this is accurate, then yes, the seeds of internal destruction are being planted.
Again, I take comfort in knowing the MAJORITY of these Cadets will see right through the ideological fog.
Shame on you West Point if this is indeed what is going on in the classroom.
AND…once again, I could care less if the NSA or anyother now wayward Gov’t entity reads this and learns who I am. In fact, all the better in my view.
Oops! I forgot, BOTH Grant and Lee were WP Grads.
Nothing more need be said.
I’ve been in education since 1988.
The majority of these cadets will not just dump and forget… When you have been told numerous times over and over again something, you will eventually internalize that teaching. I have seen it over and over in public education…
One might suspect that I, being a retired biologist, am one of those liberal academic types. Nothing could be further from the truth. I have issues with both the left and the right. Both sides think the other side are the bad guys. The reality is that both political parties have sold out long ago to the globalist bankers, and these are the real enemies of us all. The entire system is corrupt, not just the “left” side.
Many people these days just aren’t “happy” unless they have something to worry about. Most are too busy, too lazy, or too stupid to figure anything out for themselves, so they swallow whatever the talking heads feed them via TV, the internet, radio talk shows and printed media. We are rapidly evolving into a race of humanity that has lost the ability to think for ourselves, which makes us highly vulnerable to manipulation and control by others.
There are two recently evolved parasitical subspecies of Homo sapiens which are thriving through marketing and managing fear, having discovered just how profitable that can be. One group of these vultures specializes in promoting hysteria; the other group of leeches [our lawmakers and politicians of both parties] specializes in “protecting” humanity from the terrifying disinformation promoted by the first. Both groups are growing fat on their bogus salaries, typically funded by their unthinking hosts, all the while ensuring their own survival. Neither will be satisfied until their cancerous bureaucracies have sucked the life blood from all the rest of us. What they fail to understand, and what every biologist knows, is that when parasites overwhelm their hosts, both die!
In response to Mr. Thiele’s remarks…
In my opinion, William, you’ve hit the nail directly on the head… thank you!
I thought I had responded earlier to Mr. Quinter’s remarks by supporting his views with a double hooray. Instead I had responded to another’s accidentally. Be that as it may… I couldn’t agree more Mr. Quinter…thank you.
The founding fathers were the original sell outs to the British which were controlled by the pope to put an article in the Americas that could be controlled by we the people instead of god being the only writer of laws
for those who explore the secrert societies try going to Utube and type in ” human reptiles ” Is this the answer to the secret societys control??
I guess that this country deserves what they get. “they”
voted for BO not once but twice. Obummer stated right up front that he was going to “fundamentally” change America. Well, what does it mean when you “fundamentally” change something? I will tell you.
It means that you have to completely destroy what was there and start. That’s what fundamental means!
Sadly, not too many people caught or understood what “Fundamentally transform” meant. Many still don’t get it today… That one phrase should have sent chills up a person’s spine…
Lili –
It did!
The phrase “New World Order” is what put chills up my spine! Hitler 101!
Our moral fibers of this country are being destroyed as we speak. The gay community is taking over our sociaty with their lies, which is now that is acceptable and teaching our young people this. We as Americans need to wake up and look around, our whole way of life as we know it is almost doomed. But our now gov has total control where they need it we only hear what they want you to hear and see
It is logical that the government is trying to “breed” support in the military. When things go bad in this country, the government only survives if they have the backing of the military. The thing they aren’t taking into account, though, is that they have been trying to liberalize the military for a long time and as such have lost a lot of the dedication and discipline that used to be the cornerstone of it. The fact they are trying to inundate the future officers does not mean that those officers will be able to control their troops.
One of the questions asked of new recurits entering the military is: “can you shoot to kill another Americe citizen?” If they answer yes, they can enlist, if they say no, they are not allowed to.
WHAT!?!? When did this starts??
I know of no one who has been asked that question. I suspect that the rumor was started by someone on the left to get a reaction from the right.
U.S. troops are being trained to conduct round-ups, confiscate guns and shoot American citizens, including their own friends and family members, as part of a long-standing program to prepare for the declaration of martial law, according to a soldier who recently returned from Iraq.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2008/020408_shoot_americans.htm
http://www.democracynow.org/2010/4/12/this_is_how_these_soldiers_were
No MOre Hesitation! A provider of “realistic” shooting targets to the Department of Homeland Security and other federal agencies has created a line of “non-traditional threat” targets that include pregnant women, mothers in playgrounds and elderly American gun owners. http://www.amren.com/news/2013/02/dhs-supplier-provides-shooting-targets-of-american-gun-owners/
Where are the people who took the oath? What’s wrong with people. Are we breeding treason? What the hell!!!
I say lets divide the country up. On the right half of America have the “right” live and on the left side of country let the “left” side live. Both sides have their own “right or left” agendas. And I bet after a while the “left” half will want what the right have. Ya wanna bet.
Only I would suggest the “right” side have a 20′ fence (double) with ARMED guards and make sure if your a lefty you don’t get in.
I’ve also said this, Mona. Divide the country and give part to the left and part to the right and see who survives the longest and let the evil minded ones suffer. Where are our supporters in Washington? They are so mousy anymore.
Good idea, if only!
Mona –
The ‘Right’ believes in securing the border! . . . .You can ‘bet your Bippy’ there would be a fence; and it would be manned.
All democracies become dictatorships NO exceptions, this is just another step in that direction.
There is a revolution coming in a few years and Christians will be killing Christians again.
Thanks to our Communist/Muslim president and friends.
Larry PenDell
i don’t know when Christians ever killed Christians, but during the ‘dark ages’ Catholics killed many , many Christians.
Amen so true
If i recall correctly, the Protestant Reformation occurred after the Dark Ages. Therefore there were no non-Catholic Christians for the Catholics to persecute. They were all just Christians.
I am not surprised that obama is having this taught at west point. I have heard he is running out of generals to fire.
I do not think this came from the bush administration. Patriot act was much different then; it’s purpose was to capture foreign terrorists and those who communicated with them from the US.
Obama wants to convert America into a communist dictatorship because of being fathered by a communist and raised by muslim grand parents. He hates our country with a passion like Bin Laden.
I served in the Navy in submarines from July 63 to November 70. I volunteered for two things that wound have killed me but did not get in because of the war. First I went to the seals and just before I started Marine boot camp I was pulled because of my nuclear knowledge. Later I tried cobra gun ships but depth perception was not up to par. sea;s I may have lived through but the gunships never and the seals now seem different but then I was told that I could end up unfit to live in civilian society.
I made a short story long but I put the USS Whale SSN 638 in commision and went with her for a while then married and transferred to the Theodore Roosevelt which was an old missile sub until I got out.
I was shocked what had happened to my generation and sparks flew for a while but then it went underground and I had 4 kids a drinking problem and then was very busy working at TMI and raising the kids my wife never recovered from my drinking but I stayed until my youngest son was in high school in 1997. I had a lot of trouble with the kids which I was not expecting because I had always been the good one. I have settled the differences with all but one kid and that leaves me ahead with two steps and a great Christian wife but in 2004 my entire lumbar back went on me and I was disabled. I’m some better since it was fused in 2007. I went here to the top of Minnesota in Roseau County 30 miles from the border which makes me lucky. We bought a 160 acre farm half wooded and built a small house that looks like a log cabin but is not. I am relatively far from any towns and Winnipeg is the nearest City at 100 miles.
I know a lot went on while I was busy but learned the press cannot be trusted from the accident at tmi they told atrocious lies to sell news. I first became active in a big way during Obama’s first term then more when d again when he was far from winning a week before and then Benghazi all at once.
Before that for years since 80 I thought that America was splitting between the evil and Christian and started preparing for cavil war I wanted to be in the country to be less involved.
Now that I know about proposition 22 I want to save the Democrats too if possible. You can follow me on twitter @RoseauCoPatriot my tea party just forming. or @DaveJanes45 my personal site or Dave Janes on Face Book or Discus as you can tell I don’t hide. Sometimes wish I had. My son is applying for a new job so is avoiding me even though he is just like me. LOL
One thing for you save your riches in heaven where no robber or termite can go. I can tell you are a good man but money is truely the root of all evil. Also I have a program called spy alert and there is a list as high as the side of my laptop here mostly industrial though.
God Bless,
Dave Janes
I do not like bho either! but we must all understand one thing if we understand nothing else and that is bho is building onto what Bush Jr. and Cheney had already started. DHS TSA The “Patriot”Act, NDAA all of these were only the beginning of what we all now know to be reality. Stay strong pray and prepare and learn skills that you can pass onto the generation behind us. God knows they are going to need those skills!
Economic Collapse = Chaos and Rioting = National Emergency = Martial Law……you do the math and you will have your answer as why cadets are being programmed…….
The true patriots In a sense are terrorist To the fascist America that we are becoming
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That unamerican socialist snake who is posing as a professor in West Point teaching our young, impressionable cadets that their own parents, gandparents, and other Americans are their enemies ought to be arrested and tried for treason !!! True American Patriots need to round up everyone in this country who are advocating our destruction and committing treason, arrest them immediately
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You have show your true colors FRANK BATES
This great nation is being devoured from the inside out by greed crazed liberal termites and extremist maggots. We, the fathers and mothers that didn’t take the time to be fathers and mothers are to blame. We stood by and let the government school system teach our kids what they wanted to teach them and they left out the most important things in life that mom and dad were responsible for. Our kids are screaming for direction and you can see what they are getting even in the military. If you cannot see it you’re either not paying attention or you are blind. The majority of this nation doesn’t know or care that we are being eaten alive by these opportunistic parasites. As long as they can watch their TV and collect their check all is well.
We have left thousands of our beloved veterans on foreign soil that made the ultimate sacrifice for this country and our way of life. We have squandered all of the blood shed in the shadow of the flag. The true Patriot that still weeps for their loss and is still willing to lay down his own life for this country is the ultimate minority.
We are on the verge of reaping the rewards of our sedentary self serving lives. The masses are lining up for their free sustenance and government handouts. The jackals are busy and intent on finally realizing their dream and we sit watching our TVs. Even our own government is paving the road and opening the gate as indicated by this article. It’s coming and there is no one to blame but ourselves. Ironically, that is exactly who we are going to have to depend on is OURSELVES.
Hi Frank,
Although I don’t always agree with you, this is really scary. Thank you for putting this out there. I will pass your email a long. I can only hope that the Cadets are still thinking for them self’s. I am at a lose as to what else to say. Few people of the far right are violent.
Mrs. Kobba James
I’m not generally a person who lies awake at night in fear of black helicopters and blue helmets. I am however, one who pays attention to the changes in my America. From the patriotic values my generation grew up with, to,” the everything’s free in America”, mindset of way too many citizens and non-citizens.
In the event that I am wrong about the black helicopter and blue helmet thing, our military is our only trump card. All of us are going under the assumption that our military leadership would negate any attempt to, “Pacify” fellow Americans, not willing to allow abrogation of our constitutional rights,
God help us, if this is not so.
So, I guess I am a “terrorist”and part of the “violent far right?” I did serve in the Army even though I considered fighting it because of my conscious objection to war and killing. I ended up serving as a medic with lab tech training, preventive medicine, and “officer” in charge of inspections for those leaving our base.
So, do I sound like a “terrorist”?
Bye the way, I do nor own a firearm of any kind.
The Constitution is the law of the land and those who work to destroy it should be prosecuted.
My question is how the HELL does an IDIOT like Perliger get hired at a military academy of all places???
Sounds like we should be looking at the ones who hired him as well.
If a superior (military, state or national guard, law enforcement or otherwise) gives you an order that goes against the constitution, it is your DUTY to not obey that order and bring charges of treason against that individual to your other superiors.
“When injustice becomes law. Resistance becomes duty”…..Thomas Jefferson
If these young men in the academy believe that us PATRIOTS are really terrorist, then they’ve already been “BRAINWASHED”! Let’s hope and PRAY these young men don’t believe this GARBAGE! They might be a CO some day and if they do believe this GARBAGE, these idiots WILL ORDER their men to “FIRE” on U.S. civilians! Who, will in-turn return fire! Let’s PRAY this doesn’t happen!
Seems everywhere I look in the past 5 years somebody or some group is making moves to subvert what this country has been about since 1776. Going after young minds, you know, we’re told their brains don’t mature until about age 25, is the preferred method of the socialists, progressive radicals, and of course, something free for everyone is the other hook. I fear that we have come to the point in the country where the takers are outnumbering the producers. It is easy to chastise those of us classified as tea partiers, but unless you’ve been to a tea party meeting you’ll never understand that the true patriots are the vets, the elderly, soccer moms, business owners, blue collar workers and even some younger folks that attend the meeting. Yep, we say a prayer and pledge allegiance to the flag. Is that radical or what!!!
The only winners in a socialist, progressive country are the political upper echelon who control all those below them. Can you say “USSR” or “Cultural Revolution”.
Most people are blinded to the Truth. Deception, usurption are the tools of the enemy of my Saviour/redemor, YASHUA-CHRIST JESUS. As far as I have been able to ascertain, it started back when Lucifer was kicked revolted and was kicked out of Heaven. Then, as Satan, he violated by seduction Eve, in The Garden of Eden, thereby producing Cain-the first murder. Genesis 3:315. Then Cains offspring mated with Esau (Jacobs brother) to produce the Sephardic Jew. That is why they, the Sephardic, could tell Jesus that they were of Abraham, but were never in bondage. Then they have there coharts, the Askanazi (Rev 2:9 & Rev 3-9) False blood-line Jews who now control most if not all of the fiat currency in the world. They are the top of most every gov. post, corp. places of managemnet in the Western White Christian world. This is because The White Christian is hated by Satan and his progeny, as they are the True Choosen People of Jesus, as writen in The Holy Bible. The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion lays it all out. If you have ears to hear, listen. If you have eyes to see, look.
You have alot to unlearn. Talk about brainwashing. ALL ‘religions’ were created by the Demiurge (Satan) as a form of mind control. Jesus did NOT create Christianity. Jesus taught love and forgiveness AND freedom, not control. The entire world has been duped. YOU need to open your eyes and ears. Satan controls this world at this present time through religion and the media. This is going to change. If you live long enough you will witness this. Religons separate people
The problem is that they can get away with this and all the other attacks because they have the media in their pocket. Our history is being changed so much that it is nothing but a fairy tale. We need to try to wake up people. We have become such a self-centered, I, me, MINE society that no one pays attention unless it directly affects them. That is wrong. We need to fight for our country and what it stands for and WHY it was created. If not, there will be a bunch of us looking for some new uncharted land and start all over. We have our constitution, Declaration of Independence and the Federalist Papers to help understand them. We have our Bible to instruct us in and guide us into finding GOD and His love and guidance. We have our ingenuity, our strength, our morals and our belief that WE CAN HAVE LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
I can’t say I’m surprised at this. Remember Nazi Germany and how they trained the young people to be “good little Nazi’s”? Also, as far as our churches, our government agencies, and so on, remember the movie “The Dirty Dozen”? Have people infiltrate all major areas and undermine them or change the direction or thinking. It’s not just our country, either. There’s a move world wide to form a one world government. In order to get us to join that movement we have to be brought down financially, disrupted internally, and brought to our knees from being a world power to a humble beggar. I’ve known for many years we were headed this direction. Now it’s clearer than ever that we could see rioting and fighting break out so martial law is declared and we have a new dictator. Time to fly the flags half mast in mourning for our country. Goodbye USA and hello USSA (United Socialist States of America). Unless we humble ourselves before God and repent of our choosing our way instead of His, there is no hope for this country. On the upside, it does mean change, but not what Obama had in mind. It’s change that was prophesied long ago and now coming to pass. :)
I guess if you were a British Soldure ( ie. Red Coat ) a Patriot would have ben a Terrorist.
That our military leaders at West Point would allow this indoctrination shows their lack of integrity! Sure, they want to keep their jobs and make the next promotion, but at what cost?
This is just another example of how we are financing our own demise, and time is of little importance.
I agree that this is a sad condition of either being promoted and\or even just retaining their existing post, but hopefully there are some of them that are trying to merely toe the party line in order to be an insider once the s#hit hits the , and be able to affect change from the insde… at least I hope this is the case.
i am still waiting for the truth to come out in to the open about the British connection.
how they want this Country back.
how they have all along controlled everything over here through the District of Columba.
it has been their Power-House from Day One.
but, you never hear about the behind the scene activity they are into.
or how much pull they have over our money, and Government.
if you really start to look at all the stuff going on in this country.
you will see the British connection in everything.
who else would call our for Fathers Traitors. that is because they were, to the British..
and now they are calling the patriots of today, Traitors. just for standing up for the Constitution.
HOW WRONG IS THAT?
The things being given to West Point Cadets are right out of the old communist manifesto !!
Teaching THAT to our future military cadets is TREASON !!!
This is absolutely correct! The trickle down theory id correct. It’s more of an infiltration plan. once you control enough of the army you can try to control the country. The Constitution is being marginalized as an “outdated” document instead of the law of the land so that the left’s can run roughshod over it!
The best way to attack an institution, is from the inside. West Point is/was considered a top military school for Officers. The Problem with Schools like that, is most of the Officers never had “real” world experience. Take Young people that have been indoctrinated by our current school system, that does not teach exceptional-ism, then send them to a college that has been infiltrated by extremely Liberal Socialist Professors, now they go to West Point and are taught that people who believe in the constitution and limited government are against the government and want to tear the government down. Conservative, small government folks want to be able to determine what to do with their own lives, NOT have the Government tell them what they must do. A lot of the Young folks in the military, have had no real world experience except the Nanny State way of Life. It will depend upon the older Military and Veterans to STAND for the Oath that we took. To defend the constitution and this country from enemies both Foreign and DOMESTIC!
I refer you to infowars.com where Alex Jones has been doing an indepth appraisal of the governments efforts to Federalize the local and state police Agencies with training seminars conducted by DHS where the founding fathers are characterized as “Terrorists”. As shocking as that seems, he has video to prove it. I was skeptical until I saw it with my own eyes! We have been infiltrated by “Domestic Enemies” and most people are too busy watching the NFL to realize the danger at the door!
Anyone who ever wondered how Germany(A Christian nation with a history of innovation in the Arts, Sciences and Humanities) could have been hijacked in a mere 15 years is seeing it played out before our their eyes! Incrementally, we are being dismantled from the inside out!!! I will not stand idly by!!!!!!!
De Oppresso Liber!
This is outrageous! I would pray that the youth going to West Point have had the kind of upbringing that would make them understand what is going on here. The Director of Terrorism Studies should be sued. How do these people get away with this crap? This should be posted on all the internet sites so people can see what is going on.
Unfortunately, most people who are accepted in to WP are not merely highly motivated, success oriented individuals (those called “go getters”) but the recruiters look for people who are easily trainable, do not question authority, basically good old fashioned “sheeple”. Hile the military does give soldiers permission to refuse unlawful orders (for example, if an NCO or an officer tells their subordinate to go and rape some village woman that they just helped liberate from ISIS the soldier has every right – bd quiet frankly, I would say is expected to, deny said order from their superior. Whether that refusal is a good idea or not depebds on the situation, for example, what if the superior is pointing a gun at the soldier… each situation has to be addressed individually when and if these things ever come to the light of day, so if a soldier feels their life is forfeit if refusing the order, then i guess it becomes a matter of choice), but when it comes to the military teaching soldiers when it is or is not okay to refuse a direct order, they don’t (i served 3 years enlisted in the Army). The fact is that there are some police officers (and leadership\I group them in with officers) and even some National Gaurd and active duty military that have expressed (and I am sure some that haven’t ) that they will refuse any order to confiscate private citizen gun ownership. Hopefully, when\if this happens there will be enough left in place to make a difference. Another ironic thing about peivate gun ownership is that many private citizens who own guns have had military or police training but are no longer actively serving, just like many police happen to be ex military