Top 3 Chinese EMP threats

I have read the comments ,very educational. Some of the comments say no one is going to set off emp’s or nuclear bombs. Well we are dealing with radical Muslims who want to kill us and they do not care if die doing. So. People get prepared people.

Why would China want to attack us? They’re buying up everything here, and will own us soon enough!

I feel we are at a point in time where we all should feel concern about our future on this planet. China has been and always will be a threat to the remainder of the earth they have the largest amount of land of any country in the world along with the highest number of citizens. They have never felt afraid of any country and never will. If and when they feel the need to take over another country they could do so with overwhelming force. The USA is no match for China if the are able to render all of our high tech weaponry unusable. They could with shear numbers overwhelm the USA with so many troops that we could not kill them all. if we have not work out a plan to protect ourselves from EMPs then we are finished if they decide to come after us.

Now that is an interesting read. Thanks for the contribution.

I am at heart an incurable optimist. I am disabled by multiple sclerosis but I wake up every morning thinking, I’m alive. It is therefore a glorious day. But in one area I am profoundly worried about the human race. We read about scattered militias forming and we hear about children killing each other with guns left laying around. We read about things like this and say, well, it won’t happen. They’ve had those dang things for 50 years and they haven’t used em so they won’t now. And those silly militias aren’t gonna do spit. My terror is this one: Someone out there that we’ve dismissed as a nut case is going to move and one thing they’re going to get control of is the button. They’re going to put some raw recruit on that button and say, if we lose, push it and pray. Well, raw recruit wants to be sure he does his job well, so his finger hovers over that button. He waits for the yell saying, we won, Son! Come on up and party! He hears a yell and he thinks the yell was, Son, they’re wining! Push the button! He pushes his and they push theirs and the other ones push theirs and the human race passively dies out. I wonder when we’ll start taking all these scattered stories seriously and demanding that some elected official get off his dead butt and do something about it! And when we’ll elect officials who will do something about it. Isn’t shutting down the government and endangering the lives of America’s poor called treason? Isn’t taking away food stamps, unemployment and free education for poor children, and watching them die, called treason? Something has gone horribly wrong in America and I’m not going to rant and rave about it. I’m simply going to wonder if we will go quietly like lemmings to the sea, never having realized that the monsters under the bed are real.

Read the novel “One Second After” by William Forstchen with prologue by Newt Gingrich. It gives a realistic, but not so pretty, picture of life after an EMP. Contains valuable information that could save your life.

Frank: The U.S. may have a number (over 200 is rumored) of EMP sites. They may go under the project names of HAARP and DHAARP.

Absolutly if they attack the mainland id support nucin the commi bastards

Isn’t it ironic that two American people (the black man who was “hearing voices”, and shot people up and the black woman who was also “hearing voices” that ran from the police and rammed into the White House fence…were they victims of this kind of device. I never understood just why they shot the woman to death, who was unarmed and with an infant in the car. Were they trying to hide that she was a targeted and made to hear O’s voice? Just food for thought.

Just so everyone is aware Our country has been developing these EMPs in Texas for a while and they are Very dangerous to our own people. I am very knowledgeable on this subject. I cannot say who I am or what I do but I can explain that they can be used for multiple purposes including; endless free power pulled from the ground, sending alpha waves or what is really mind control just like TVs, but on a massive scale, weather manipulation and protection, plus death rays and radiation. But the end result can be deadly to everyone. Recently in the city of San Antonio there was an unexplained death of a child struck by lightning, yet there were no clouds in the sky. This subdivision where the incident happened lies directly in between too main EMF grids(always associated with nearby man made lake or a natural lake) that are being used to power 2 very important buildings. Also Saturday a vehicle traveling on I35E towards Dallas was mysteriously thrown on its side off the road having not impacted any other vehicles. During a rain storm it was under a KV line when the electricity jolted the vehicle upside down and the to its side(after the vehicle became a part of the circuit) and blew out the tires all over the street. you wont read about this anywhere probably or hear the truth because of its nature. I did personally witness this! just remember this is massive power, enough to manufacture lightning. Water is very conducive. So please everyone, Look into this. Dont believe me! Do some digging for yourselves. A good place to start is looking up EMFs and government controlled weather. Just follow the large Kilo-voltage power-lines A few of the major citys and major corporations use EMFs in TEXAS on a regular basis for many reasons, one being free power while we pay for it, but these are all distractions to the real purpose. They will first introduce and use them for mass transit connecting all 3 possibly four major cities first.

We used them in Iraq and Pakistan. Pay attention.

The US has had these weapons since Jimmy Carter was president. They are called neutron nuclear weapons. They kill all animal life and leave buildings, infrastructure and material things in tact. There is no lingering radiation signature after these weapons are exploded.

Frank, I believe that it’s only a matter of time before they use it. Ask yourself this question, why haven’t they used it on us already? The answer is because they still have use of us and our natural resources. It’s no secret that they already own a big chunk of the U.S. I believe that when they can no longer gain anything from us, is when they will try to discard us ( EMP or outright nuclear bomb)

It has been known for 50 years, that exploding a nuclear weapon up high, fries all semiconductor type of electronics in line of sight. So yes, the USA has weapons that will do that to anyone they target..

The question is, how do we defend ourselves against EMPs and HPMs…? Suits? Underground bunkers…? How would we know the attack was coming…?

I don’t think there is really much to be alarmed about (at least not on this issue – perhaps the war being waged by multinational corporations against American workers). The Washington Times is another Ruppert Murdock propaganda rag that doesn’t actually and honestly report the news. What’s with the 50 years old shit, anyway? And honestly, we got a strong military. There is no might in the world that can match us. What will bring us down to our knees is when Americans are pitted against each other, live their lives in fear, and allow the corporate masters and their purchased puppets in Washington and the media bring us to our knees in illness, poverty, and despair. But! There are more of us than there are of them (the 1%)….and people like us care about our future and the future of our families, our neighbors, and yes, the human family on this planet. We just need to know who the enemy is, and it is the one who tries to divide, frighten, and conquer.

go patriots-we must become better at self sustaining, but we must also remember we are a nation of people who are brave, caring, compassionate, and decent.

I believe China is now where Japan was in the year before the Japanese attacked the United States. They have discovered over 3 miles of tunnels packed with weapons, and China holds a large interest in the United States. We are the only country in the world which has all the natural resources we hold, as well as rich fertile land. They carry out cyber attacks on the United States daily, so there is no doubt in my mind we are going to face a serious threat from China in the very near future.

The Chinese have been using obsidian, chinese amber, and blue copper beads for centuries for generating electricity. Many civilizations have known about magnetic flux (electricity). And you don’t need windmills or solar cells to generate electricity with obsidian or amber.just movement of some sort. Electric beads of power were used by several magicians/mystics. Magnetic weapons could lead to a zombie apocalypse yes. Why anyone would think using weapons of any sort is good is beyond my thinking but yes we have weapons and they keep getting more and more advanced. It seems people do not like peace. The biggest weapon against weapons is peace but it’s boring so we have weapons. Killing is more fun than meditation.

HAARP

And we have already used to several times right here in the United States so there is no reason to believe that we have not already used it in other countries.

If/when we are hit with a wide-area EMP, it will be a false-flag event, staged by TPTB to give us an excuse to wage war on the latest target du jour , as in 9/11, Oklahoma City, Waco, Sandy Hook, Fukushima, Katrina, etc, etc. Within 3 days of such an attack, the affected cities and their surrounding areas will be hellish nightmares on a scale never before seen on the earth, as millions of trapped people (cars, trucks, buses, trains, ATMs won’t work) compete with one another for food and water.

If for any reason anyone feels the government has ever told the general public everything, you need to look under your bed and find your mind. I was a journalism student in the 60’s and it was pounded into our heads about the need to filter what was put out there ‘because the public would not know how to handle the whole truth.’ That was 50 years ago.
What can be done about the EMPs? Know there is a fix. Know, too, that if you are in the path of one, there is no escape no matter how many stories below ground you are. The air is effected for years and years – longer than anyone alive today would live to breath.

Anyone who has served in the Military anytime since the 60’s or 70’s is well aware of EMP’s and how to deal with it. I am a 20 year, 2 time Vet, having served in the Corps, ’69 – ’73 and the Coast Guard, ’76 – ’92. I taught NBC Warfare (Nuclear, Biological, Chemical) as part of my duties in the Coast Guard. EMP’s will fry any ‘chips’ in their range.

The only vehicles that will operate are those that rely on a points based ignition system (gas) or a diesel engine without any micro chips in the system..

Faraday Cages can protect electronics if they are constructed and set up properly.

Not really either a new idea or never presented to the “general public”. Anyone remember the 2 season SciFi series “Dark Angel”?? This was the basis of the series – an EMP was set off high in the atmosphere that wiped out all electricity in the US.

While EMPs from either nukes or actual EMP weapons are a complete reality, one does need to be concerned. These are easily produced. Heck, plans are even on the Internet (what isn’t?). All of our current electrical devices would be effected. Yes, even off-grid solar systems are at risk. The need to have all spare electronics protected in Faraday Cages would be the first step in preparation.

Another source, not mentioned here, of EMPs is a large solar flare. The effect would be the same. Check out the effect of one that happened in the late 1800’s. Burned wires in the telegraph system in Europe.

Overall – – a highly likely possibility!

I agree with those who have been writing that the effects of EMP have been known since the first Atomic weapons tests were conducted. The American citizens were not kept in the dark about this, but our superiority mentality refused to recognize the facts and ramifications of our enemies knowing the same. We looked down on their technologies for being “backwards” and “last centuries technologies”, yet they were more prepared than we for thermonuclear war. EMP is high speed charged particles which are absorbed into wiring and cause electrical pulses to travel through the wired as electricity, overloading any circuits which deal in micro-electronics. Those components, faced with an overload, fry (melt or explode). The close proximity of these components allow gigantic electrical currents to jump from component to component, effectively rendering the entire electrical system within completely useless and UN-repairable. That means modern cars (with all those neat electronic gadgets such as the engine control computers) DOS (Dead on the Spot). Our enemies knew that and fought upgrading their military equipment to the microelectronics age since their vacuum tube and heavy metal equipment and “ancient technology” fared better in a nuclear environment. Wise Americans did the same. Our advanced technology will be of no use if an enemy nuclear attack happened.

As stated before, nuclear weapons are used in three distinct manners for the effect they have on an enemy, ground detonation causes massive physical destruction and radioactive dust from the dirt beneath the explosion leaving the area unfit for life for hundreds of years and kills anywhere the wind takes the dust. Low atmosphere detonation will kill and destroy infrastructure in the general area with less radio-active dust. A nuclear detonation in near-earth orbit over a specific target area (like Omaha Nebraska) would send the EMP over a wide area ( the Omaha target mentioned would result in damage to electrical and electronic equipment across the entire mid-west in ever-degrading concentric rings all the way to our two mountain ranges east and west) and micro-electronic damage nation-wide.

Our enemies have the means of placing nuclear weapons in such near-earth orbits and the results of a detonation there would be instantaneous.

Naturally, the first nation to use a nuclear weapon in war (the US) would have been the first to discover this and design a way to use it that way.

If you really want to be concerned about America’s security, why would you put a moslem leaning individual in the office of commander-in-chief? To make matters worse, in case you think he could not get all of America’s secrets in four years, you put him back in office for another four years. By the time his eight years are up every moslem leaning country in the world will be able to have access to all our industrial and military secrets. He is already starting to outfit some muslim countries with our best air force fighter jets and our armies best tanks. Losing control of our EMP’s is a long way down on the list of our things to worry about.

The EMP phenomenon has been known and studied since the first nuclear detonations. Except in the most extremely shielded areas there is virtually no known means to protect against a sufficiently powerful pulse.

The very fact that we possess a nuclear arsenal contemplates its ultimate use. In our current military state, under the current Commander In Chief, I believe an ‘acceptable loss’ scenario would benefit a preemptive Chinese strike prior to the next presidential election cycle.

In summary regarding your questions:
1- China may use any and all types of weapons to attack whatever hostile naval forces that might be operating in that theatre.
2- There wouldn’t be any reason for China not to use any and all means to insure victory should there be an attack on Taiwan

Frank,my friend…..
I see that besides your Patriotism you have an inclination to ramp up the blood pressure of your
customers.The weird device you speak of has been around a long while,in addition to the ‘sonic’
destruction type weapons even recently tested in the Pacific off of the north west U.S. yes all horrifying and extremely stressful! I signed on for the positive aspect of your energy saving ideas
and the e-mails that I thought would be full of those positive solutions….that would be great!!!!
Also as I was impressed with your Seed Vault offer, you failed to mention what zones these seeds are appropriate for.You being in Arizona and I, in Wisconsin this would be necessary info for success. I can of course and will research your chosen cultivars,but for your customers and results,it’s something you may want to add.

They keep screwing with us, and everybody else they will be one big crystal from a Nuke!!

Hasn’t anyone heard of HAARP? Oooohhh, that’s right. The Government shuts everyone up about that subject! Rest assured, it exists, here in Alaska….. just….. NOT in the location gov’t insists upon! And it’s NOT what the government says it is….. because it’s a weapon…..

Food for thought.

FEAR is the most destructive force on earth. Rid yourselves of it and face the day ready to do battle if and when trouble shows its ugly face. The most common thing today that’s most dangerous is the GREED and More GREEDY people that inhabit this Earth of ours.

I have a tesla unit in my basement and would sell it or trade for solar or wind units.

I agree with Gerard. China owns us, plus with all the trade we do with them if they were to ever EMP us it would also destroy them ecomonically. They can have more power by staying financially strong in the world. That by itself will take us out unless we change our ways here…………..The real people you need to watch out for are the wacko’s in Iran, North Korea, Northern African countries, middle east in general and even Pakistan……………These people don’t care about themselves and others but are hell bent on taking you out no matter what… After all you can’t analyze a sick mind unless your one of them…………..

Haaa Yes! No one or at least too few people had heard of this weapon, yet it was talked about so very long ago. I have wondered why small EMP Devices haven’t been used in the wars in the middle east. The road side bombs could likely be detonated by high powered radiation, because they must be using electric detonators on these charges. Any electric blasting cap has some serious degree of sensitivity to radio radiation, as most miners would know.We could detonate these weapons or destroy any electronic system if used, before any troops approach the device.

Should the USA respond with nuclear, we should be ready with massive EMP or Nutron devices and respond to any country’s EMP attack anywhere land or sea. Today’s war by any large enemy is going to be to the death of one side or the other. Therefore an immediate retaliation is required on that country’s infrastructure. I.E. China is already expecting a war soon and this is a major threat, but their electronic warfare equipment is possibly subject to same threat, Maybe! Sure hope someone has had brains enough to be thinking how the battlefield will develop with this EMP devices. Kill their infrastructure without directly killing people, if possible or do the Nutron thing, it’s clean.

Hi!
Yes, using some EMP device is a possibility. Sometimes our Sun gives the planet a good slap. Early telegraph communications were hit pretty hard back in the 1800’s.

John

This is nothing new. I have even seen an article about it in popular science years ago. This is also old news to our government, that’s why electronic equipment that can be affected by an EMP is shielded. We are more ready for that threat than you think.Regards, GV

We learned about the EMP phenomena because we were the first to set off atomic bomb. The EMP was an unexpected side effect of a nuclear explosion. It was never kept from us. I’m just guessing but, I believe the Pentagon was all over it as they’re paid to come up with ways to destroy our enemies and perpetuate war to justify spending an obscene amount of our tax dollars on our military machine Ike warned us about.

I’ve never like our policy of having ‘nukes’ pointed at China. China isn’t a military threat to us. Our present day “leaders” in DC are subsidized by big industry. So, I think the fight is going to be by the ‘big industries’ on either side. The real concern is whether or not our leaders in DC are gonna ‘grow a pair’ and give this country back to the ones that really do all of the work, the majority.

If our leaders today don’t let those who pay the most in taxes have our country back, China is going to slaughter all of us when it comes to which country has the strongest currency.

Audit the Federal Banking Reserve system. Then we’ll all see how and why big industry and our govt. leaders in Washington have been working together to fulfill their endless greed for money and possesions.

Don’t worry about the EMP, both China and the US have put way too much into our relations to throw all that away. And China has also had a tight grip on No. Korea to maintain stability in that region.

If I’m wrong and China would start a war with us over Taiwan and all of the “nosey business” our CIA has been doing in that reagion, I hope we’d pull out because the ‘eyes of the world’ would be watching. And it would give our leaders in DC a well needed slap in the face.

The days of the U.S. being a leading world nation are coming to an end because we’ve allowed the big industries and govt. work together too closely to fill their own pathetic ‘voids’ out of greed. As a people we won’t even get up off our lazy asses and stand up against our own govt. and these industries that are running and ruining everything in this country. And we continue to pay taxes “without representation” from those who pay the most in taxes.

There are many ways to stop this from happening. Pulling our nukes out of Taiwan would be our best “next move”. There’s no couwardice in showing that kind of respect to China. We still have all those subs off their coast as they do have their subs off our coast. We need to take the money back from all those who’ve been profiting from war and put an end to ‘war profiteering’.

If we look into the definition of “….a hostile government…” we just may find that our govt. could be considered a ‘hostile government’. What comes next is our duty.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZrrw4_NJVY

Two words… Faraday Box :)

Nickolo Testa first theorized the EMP over a hundred years ago, and experimented constantly
with his magnetic-photon tower and dvices prior to World War One. Tesla planned to create free electricity for the world as a whole. Imagine that? However, his main investor, JP Morgan, would have none of it.

Tesla’s tower was known to disrupt weather, and when amped up, had the ability to make the earth rumble (earthquakes) and developed a weapon (the death ray), of which you refer to.

Upon Teslas death, in 1945, the FBI raided his apartment in New York,and confiscated Teslas lifetime works of manuscripts, devices, and planned patents.

Of course, the government used Tesla’s planns for military purposes.

Before his death, Tesla shared his secrets with the Russians (World War II allies), to use to defend themselves from the Nazi’s who were hot on Tesla’s tail

For some time now, America has used and experimented with HARRP, a Tesla device located in Alaska, for ‘classified’ purposes. Now it seems, the Chinese have it too. MTM.

Thomas Jefferson was very smart man he said we should never let the government get ahead of us. There should always be checks and balances. And we the people should rule. I’m Sure there’s plenty of technologies out there that haven’t been exposed to us, but they’re available. We still have the power of the pen. Write your representatives The president vice president Congress the Senate write the governor of your state. And the mayor of your city or town insist on time limits and tell everybody you know. Quit voting for parties quit voting for Democrats. Quit voting for Republicans. They look out for each other. Republicans and Democrats. They don’t care about the people and what we want. Start thinking about we the people not I this country can change and can become the greatest country in the world again. I remember a saying use it or lose it. I’m talking about voting and freedom of speech, just don’t tell your cousin your brother, your uncle tell everybody you meet and anyone that will listen it’s time for change. Replace all the congressmen, senators, all the governors mayors clean house. One big sweep. There will be change. Hire people that had to balance their own checkbook and raise a family and decide whether to buy groceries or gasoline. Those are the people we need in office. Thank you for the opportunity to express my thoughts and have a blessed day

I already am a subscriber to the Washington Times and have seen other articles about this. China has already made such threats about this and Tiwan if we help Tiwan. China wants to rule Tiwan again, but Tiwan wants to remain independant. And I don’t blame them. The only thing is, China wants to rule the world. But I think the American people will try to stop them at some future date.

There was a story about U.S. forces in Iraq a few years back that had a strange weapon that killled a platoon sized enemy unit that produced a microwave type effect. It was talk that came fron a grunt soldier of the 101st Airborne. It was quickly hushed up. The description of what it did to the enemy was horrible. China isn’t dumb. If they have something and war breaks out, you can bet your bottom dollar they will use it.

Why would china want to hurt the cash cow Frank?? I am looking forward to getting off the grid, but I am not worried about china…. not with all the Walmarts in the us!! It is the third world countries that I am concerned about, and they dont have the technology to mess with us. It is all about money Frank. We make china a lot of money! ok?!

It’s also called HAARP..Tesla called it his “Earthquake machine”..and there’s an endless list of stmospheric things it’s capable of…Tesla wanted it to help mankind…but of course THAT thought disappeared as soon as he lost control of it ! Ourfirst one is up here in Delta Junction Alaska…weather, weapons mental unrest…you name it !

OUR government has been using secure contractors for a long time building SKIFFs; or otherwise known as EMP and nuclear protected sites all over the world; that is wherever we have alies. If The Obamanation is Muslin ; he will not be concerned about the people and would gladly sell us out. Also about our debth to China ; ever time they have a change of Dictators they claim that the moneys owed by the previou Dictator is void why should we not do the same with them? Do you think they do not think about us every time we change presidents, turn around fair play! China owes US a lot of money also!

Frank, I strongly agree that anything could happen in this day and age, we are in exciting times, I watch it daily unfold. I believe God gives things to you that you are not blind too, where some believe that things are going to be AOK. We have alot of chois and confusion and also unrest and the current leader and leaders of this great country have created this mess. Brick by brick this country is being torn down. Theirs alot we dont know behind the scenes. I am a very strong believer of the constitution and the biblical principals that it was founded on. The leader and the leaders are steering away from this. I guess I would consider that I am old school to strong morals and ethics.Things in the past that worked greatly in a positive way,unfortunitly in the last 5 years it has dramaticaly changed due to leadership. I thank you for all the info you have sent me and I am going to use all of it to survive in these troubled times.May God Bless.

Nothing new really…Our sweet Government has had this for quite a while…Have you heard of a comapny Sierra Nevada? Lockheed? And then HAARP? Check out their stuff.
All I can do is keep my faith in God! Turn my cares unto the Lord!! And of course keep an open eye!

I think YES they will use EMP!Why shouldent they?AsFor Nuclear WE cant use it.THE outher countrys WONT ALLOW us TOO!Remember IRAN,Iraq,WE went BROKE,With HI dollar BOMBS,AND FOR WHAT?Look at the price of OIL.Should WE the TAX payers reap the fruits of WAR?WHY YES we should have!We all should know who GOT RICH from that.NOT the tax payers.And if YOUR president allready sold out one third of all our business to CHINA with our DEBT,Again I say WHY shouldent they collect?And WHY should they STOP there?All the outher countrys know MORE then WE THE PEOPLE,ARE goverment controls are MEDIA,SO MOST of the people BELIEVE what they are told or LED TO believe!KISS OUR COUNTRY GOODBYE!And GOOD LUCK!

Why would China do this if we owe them so much money. They would never get it back if this happened.

I think, if we don’t worship God and pray the Rosary as Americans did in the past, in large gatherings, to avoid nuclear attack, EMP becomes possible. From description looks like the Warning prophesied by Virgin Mary at Garabandal.

Sorry but EMP has been well known since the Manhatten Project. The fact is that ignorance in the American public is down to the complacency that is a cancer in this country.

Bottom line.
Would the solar powered system be safe?

in memory it seems that they were testing this in nam in the mid 60*s

Just hearing about it? I guess you’ve never been in the military. I learned about this in the Marines in 1980. This tactic is used to knock out communications, cause confusion, and leave infrastructure intact (buildings and roads) so you don’t have to rebuild after taking over an area or country. Our country and a lot of citizens have known about EMP’s since the testing of atomic weapons. We are not just finding out about this. This information has been around for a long, long time. It’s the main reason that preppers learn to use pre electronic technology which we all need to learn. Just in case.

Frank, Old News!! Let us get back to the main point of this site. There are plenty of sites if I want to hear about EMP threats and the other problems that stalking us.

This not to say I have my head in the sand, I do NOT, but the point of your blog is lost on the people that know and understand the current threats.

Armageddon was yesterday, today we have a real problem!

Best regards;

Larry Isaacs

I’m former military. This issue has came up many times over the years. Bottom line: We have ballistic missle submarines always on patrol. No one knows where these submarines are. They are ready to launch at any time. These submarines scare the hell out of China and Russia. China will not use an EMP on the US while risking a response from a US ballistic missle submarine(boomer). China and Russia can take out our surface flleet and land targets easily but NOT the submarines. The internal threat(our present government) is more ominous. Obama however, could make a secret deal with China in which the US would do nothing to respond to an EMP attack. Look what he tried to do in Benghazi. Things are getting very dicey in this world. This country only has one hope….God.

I have grave concerns about the governor of Laguna, Richard Luarkie, planning to visit China, Istanbul and the Yucatan for “business relations.” I was able to get it cancelled last year but have little faith in his words he will not continue on with his plan. I would like to know what others know about other groups that have visited these places and the lasting affects of those visits.

Frank !! Where the heck have you been, You just learned of this ?
This is very OLD news.

I have been working on High Altitude Electromagnetic Pulse (HEMP) protection for years. The majority of our current military equipment is no longer protected from this type of weapon because of COngressional mandates that required the military to purchase commerciall-off-the-shelf (COTS) equipment instead of military hardened equipment. Congress saw it as a cost savings move instead of listing to what the effects of an EMP event would do to the military capability.

The controls for ALL of the civilian infrastructure, (power, water, sanitiation, data center operations, etc) would be destroyed and we would be in the dark without means of civil society to function for probably 25 years while older technology controls were developed, if they could be developed with disolution of society.

America, and yes all of the industrialized nations would return to chaos and a warlord or tribal fudal system of government. Southern California, the Northeast US below Maine, and the urbanized portions of the east coast would errupt into a free-for-all of survival. The midwest, south, rural areas of the west would continue to function as these areas already know how to survive without modern conveniences.

If you think things are bad now, wait until the government outlaws owning a gun and see who is in charge after an EMP event.

*sigh* Tesla!

As is typical in the U.S., most people believe what they are told by the media. The Chinese have been utilizing EMP weaponry to knock out our intelligence listening posts around the world for at least the last 5 years. When our media released information about Iranian testing/deployment of Dirty bomb EMPs, they were aware that China is the puppetmaster pulling the strings. Currently, there is no way to shield our standard communications devices from an EMP blast, unless we were to utilize the old vacuum tube electronics. Maybe Russia wasn’t so dumb to use what we thought was archaic technology in many of their weapons, as vacuum tube technology can withstand some EMP blasts. The U.S. does have several backup communications systems in place for official use, notably the longstanding GWEN system. Listen when I tell you that EMP weaponry should not be your primary concern; new NLW technology should be much more disturbing…

Sir I believe if they use this weapon on the United States mainland it would cause a lot of Kaiser. We as people are not prepared for going out with power. Everything we use runs on it. No more computers would cause a lot of panic. We are to use to using them and it would cause a lot of unwanted deaths. It would be like everyone for themselves and the people they stay with. I no there would be a lot of killings for survival. There would be a lot of looting. We are not prepared for our energy to shut off. Concerned citisen. I have kids and family and people I no to worry about.Lord Jesus Christ have mercy on us all and the true beleivers if this happened.

I’m sorry I can’t offer any insight to what is going on. I only went to college for one semester. Married at 18; had 5 sons, whom I pretty much parented alone, before I was 31. Divorced at 38.
kept all the boys. First job was a teachers’ aide; later was a community service aide for social workers in State Welfare. Took college correspondent courses, [all Bible] to get enough credits to test for better paying job; got better job. retired after 21yrs. Never learned much tecnology or
politics. Too old to learn now, too forgetful. [Glad I chose Bible to study.]

gov knows and has precautions in place for such an attack.i worked for an aircraft co long ago. these weapons were made and tested by gov. in the 60s . i am sure if they made the weapons they also created a way of sheilding themselves from them. i can only imagine what has been created in these times.

We have more to worry about than China or Iran, we have Obama. The RUSSIANS once said we would ultimately be destroyed from within. I do believe it is happening as we speak. Why would China attack a country that is already under attack.

Sir:
What rock have you been under? I knew about that type of Weapon many years ago.

An EMP weapon used against us would likely result in us launching an EMP attack in kind. We would certainly have an advantage given all the air bases we have around the world. It would be hard for China to disable them all. But, I seriously don’t think the ET’s would allow it – whether it be from China or the US.

Frank, we’ve got EMP’s from the sun to worry about more than our little pansy ones. Do you realize the amount of energy it takes to make one pulse. It’s huge! Plus if they were able to put one over a large area, we’d be worrying about controls in our above ground nukes (power plants) not working anymore, then Fukishima all over the place. That’s what will happen if we get another Carrington Event from the sun. Do your research bud, because you’d be spending better time, trying to figure out how to shield your electronics from that. The sun is in a major phase right now, and this is quite possible. We wouldn’t have much to worry about though, because it could be all over if our power grid went down from one of these, because our nuke plants would go into melt down from lack of power to run the cooling pumps.

This is not new news. The Russian and the US have had these Electromagnetic weapons since the 1980’s, but not revealed to the general public. If you want to read more about their development i suggest you contact the Tesla Book Co, Ventura, Ca and ask for a book called
“Fer De Lance” written by Col.T.E. Bearden, Ret.
When Russia collasped in 1989 a lot of technology was sold on the black market, and China got some of it. There is even evidence that the shuttle that blew up was attacked by one these weapons and the catastropy at Chirnobel was an experiment gone wrong with these weapons. They need an enormous amount of power to transmitt the waves and most are directly attached to a nuclear power plant. This is extremely disturbing that the Chinese would even think about using one of these weapons.

The US just tested a directed EMP device in Arizona a few weeks ago….the citizens who are aware, research and pay attention to unconvential news outlets and not walking around in a daze know about this…the test was successful in knocking out electronic gear in a specific building/location…it was just a flex of muscle by the US to let China and the rest of the world know we have an EMP device too…..

i have been preparing for an emp for several years now. any nuclear devise set off in the atmosphere will cause an emp for a great distance from the explosion cetner. a box wth a metal covering will allegedly protect any electronics stored inside it. plu a neutron bomb kills all carbon based lfe forms within it’s blast radius. this would leave all the buildings and everything but the people animals and plants. even it it caused an emp, there would be no one there for it to matter to. i hope if china has the plans to use an emp on us, we get it done to them first.

Keep in mind that any vehicle pre-72-ish runs off points (spark generated) not a chip, and EMP should not effect that. Also if you unplug your devises at night or when ever not in use, the EMP should not effect that either or will it? It is my understanding that the EMP comes through the power grid and zapps the electronics. Or am I wrong again. Need more imformation on EMP and how it works.

Aloha,

I read through many of the comments and skimmed through others but nowhere [I may be wrong] that any of the comments mention the EMP coming from the SUN by the end of 2012 or into 2013.

Even the government agencies of NOAA and NASA are forecasting the EMP that will disrupt the whole earth’s electrical power grid & electronic devices. However, it will not affect people but it will be a slow death for many because food and water will slowly run out. When that happens, we will turn into a Mad Max society…just watch the Road Warrior movie series.

Someone mention Dr. William Forstchen who wrote a book called “One Second After.” He was on Coast to Coast (C2C) radio program 3 years ago with the host Art Bell. If you are a member of Coast Insider, you can download or listen to this interview. If you become a member for only one month, you’ll have access to the past 3 years of C2C interviews. Dr. Forstchen came on C2C November 27, 2009 so you can get that interview since we are still in early November. If you don’t want to be a member, you can read the summary of that interview at, http://www.coasttocoastam.com. Go into their archives and search for the 11/27/2009 broadcast and you’ll find the summary.

Everything mentioned in that Washington Times report and by the many comments was covered in the C2C broadcast and more.

Although China wasn’t mentioned at that time, rogue nations like North Korea and Iran were mentioned. They too can fire off a rocket with a low yield nuclear war head 200 miles over Kansas, blow it up and send a huge EMP across the USA and disrupt the whole electrical power grid and destroy most all of the electronic devices. A frightful scenario indeed, huh?

Mahalo & In God We Trust,
Gary

If this true reckon they could but I believe there is another alternete agenda anyway and it is deep intheir own idealism, whatever. It is time that we decide to come together in truth and honesty and really discuss our differences, after all we all are just human entities, right? At least I thought so for awhile. So it is possible to have an old fashioed deliberation meeting for all to put forth their ideals and work together that is the only way, thanks and love and light to you. Jackie

It is not a question of if the Chicom will use EMP or Nukes against us, but when. Any attempt to protect Taiwan will provoke a nuclear response from Communist China if they decide to attack. We DO have a mutual defense treaty with Taiwan to protect them against mainland China, and many OPLANS to choose from depending on the way they decide to attack. Already Communist China is dumping U.S. dollars, buying gold and strategic metals to bolster their military/industrial complex in the dollar’s place. They are also constructing a “Blue Water” Navy that could rival what we have in place in the western Pacific – concentrating on Surface Warfare units mostly at this time (with American dollars that we give them for their cheap goods they sell to us).

I stopped buying “made in China” goods years ago when I found out that they were using our dollars against us. I refuse to support an unfriendly foreign power, we have done that too often in the past and had cause to regret it.

I have done extensive research on the EMPs and have learned that these radiating devices are NOT lethal to humans or any other living creature! They are however very damaging to all ELECTRONICS!. They will not kill anything directly, but think of this. All means of transportation which depends on any form of electronics will STOP when an EMP device is exployed in the sky above a country or above the ocean!
What happens is that the EMP waves FRY the electronics in any device, be it an airplane , an auto, a train, a boat or a ship> Can you imagine what would happen to a large airliner with all kind of electronics to fly it or guide it were to be hit by and EMP wave? INSTANT UNCONTROLABILITY!!!
Same thing for a car, a boat, you TV, your Microwave, and your Smart Phone. All electronics and electric systems will stop working. All electronic controls in your home, your office, your transportation, your workplace.will stop instantly! Only items that do not depend on electronic devices will continue to operate. Industrial machines will stop, hospitals will have trouble keeping people alive. Lights in surgery will go off until emergency lighting can be restored which could be seconds or weeks or months! Electric companies will be off line for weeks or months. There is not enough parts available to rebuild all the electronic devices.
Word of advice: keep a battery or crank charged light on hand, if you can afford one, get a radio that is powered by solar of crank power-Keep it in a steel box on a shelf some where and run a wire from it to a ground on a water pipe or to an electrical ground (metal stake in the ground at least 6 feet in length. This is a simple Faraday Shield and is the only simple way to protect electronics
Ham radio operators have long been preparing for this type of wave which is often mistaken for the radiation given off by nuclear devices, but may be produced without a blinding blast of the Nuclear devices.Google one of the numerous sites about EMP and become aware. The Buck

I do think we have the same weapon it is called harp it is in alaska I think we used it on sadam that is why his men gave up so easy we also use to control the weather and who knows what else

If you really want an answer to whether or not they could actually be used ask yourself this question. What better way to cover the tracks and escape being held accountable is available to the group that has tied our world’s economy together and then raped it repeatedly? When the world economy crashes it is the perfect solution for them to avoid retribution.

A small correction is in order. Someone stated here recently that a 50 megaton nuclear device detonated over St. Louis would do us in. In fact, it could be accomplished with a weapon as small as 50 kiloton, which would easily fit on a Shahab-3 or Tae Po Dong 2 missile. These delivery systems are becoming quite reliable and larger, longer range birds are in the works. As I said before, time is not our friend here.

Were China to employ an EMP weapon against the United States, yes, a nuclear response would occur. A test of one of their long range ballistic missiles which could deliver an EMP weapon was conducted on November 09, 2010 off the coast of California. It was a test using a “calibration warhead”, which contained telemetry and flight data recording instrumentation to document the performance of the missile and it’s associated systems.

The news media, who seem to be totally ignorant of what a missile launch looks like, portrayed it as a jet condensation trail. So much for accurate journalism. Northern Command, SAC, the United States Navy, the FAA all stated that they did not have a bird in the air at the time of the launch and nothing with a vertical trajectory was launched by our military from that location.

Besides, we don’t launch ICBM’s at China, as we do not want to start WWIII. However, China’s deafening silence with regard to the missile launch, trajectory, and reentry target destination, leads one to only conclude that it was China’s bird that was in the air that day. Otherwise, they would have raised holy hell over such an incursion of their air space.

We, as a nations, need to prepare to deal with the effects of an EMP attack, as time is not our friend with regard to the number of nations quickly attaining the ability to utilize such a weapon against us. If we are prepared, we can survive. If we are not prepared, we will perish. It is just that simple.

Every nuclear power has this capability. All they have to do is detonate a nuclear weapon a few miles in space over the territory they want the EMP to affect. Problem is, if China uses it, Taiwan is so close to them, it will affect them also.

Frank, Admire your efforts and hard work…Read About Agenda 21. We will all be EQUAL–take utilities for instance. Granny living alone uses almost none. Family down the street has 5 kids and bill is less than Granny’s –same for water—Mayor in Knoxville intends to visit Nashville for answers.
If you own your own home…not fair! Some folks live in dirt huts. Have to “equalize” there..Raise home owners insurance and taxes.
It is the intention of Powers That Be to own ALL resources. Maxine Waters admitted (under her breath) of owning the oil fields.
This “Agenda” was promoted & approved by H.W. Bush. Pushed further down the road by Bill Clinton, Shoved under our nose with TARP and land grabs (wetlands, environmentally protected, and endangered species)…and Obama’s job is to finish it and bring American to her knees, having us begging for governmental help and handouts.
Where is New York today??? HUMMM?
And chemtrails and HAARP? Weather by design?
got in my possession letter from Office of Attny General of Tenn. on Chemtrails….Says they cannot answer questions as it is “UNDER INVESTIGATION”
Methinks those words are a blanket cover when they are hiding information.

Read the book One Second After if you want to know what the effects of EMP would have on the U.S.

Blah, blah blah. At any time so many things could go wrong – that leaves one panicked and unable to function. Are we all that afraid of death? Are we all that fearfull of those forces we have absolutely no influence over. Fear equates to lack of faith. Fear equates to NOT doing what we are all called to do. The governments of the world have always practiced the kinds of things they are doing today. It is up to us how we respond to that. Hey – our government gives us challenges every day. China doesn’t need to give us grief – we do it to ourselves. If you look at all of the conspiricies over the last forty years and pick the ones that have substantial factual backing from qualified people it doesn’t take long to realize the significance of my statement on our domestically born challenges. So, what can we do about it – really? I’d rather help out the family down the streat that has become homeless due to circumstances out of their control than fight the federal government. Would you rather make a difference or die doing something futile? By focussing our attention where we can make a difference we find ourselves in a whole different place – one that is rewarding. This is not ignorance – it is our call. We just choose to listen to and react to the things we realistically can’t influence at this time. When there is a crack in the foundation – that is the time to act. In the meantime help yourself by helping others.

You ask..”why has this been hidden from the US public?”
Because there are things that the public does not need to know, can’t handle the knowledge, it’s a matter of national security, our leaders already know, and have known, about it or it’s not true!!!
Or maybe it allows gossip and rumor and fear mongers to have their 15 minutes of fame!

China is not the only one with this technology. Russia has it too. If it falls into the wrong hands,{a terrorist}, we could be in a lot of trouble. Especially the people who can’t live without electronics.

We were replacing ICBM computers in 1968 with hardened component devices. The computers were canned but the wires were the fuse that brought the energy inside. In Iraq the equipment they were using was immune (Bush #1). It looked like clunky Russian surplus and was vacuum tube stuff but pretty much immune to EMP. We were using hardened circuits.

That old pressure cooker your granny used might be the perfect place to store your survival radio and high buck electric watches. Keep the batteries some place else. If you want to keep up with survival technology try studying vacuum tubes and morse code at the citizen level. Military stuff is such that the people who operate it will not survive as well as the toys. Most governments are betting on submarines as last resort machines. I worked on Polaris stuff a lifetime ago and marveled at the product. Jules Verne got it right.

Most folks do not realize that nuclear power is simply a huge heat source that boils water to make steam that moves things that make electricity. Ships went from wind power to steam power to diesel power and now back to steam. The energy of the future is solar directly or indirectly that makes heat that moves air. etc.
Simple ideas based on ordinary things the supposed hundred thousand years ago humans used. Their knives were sharper than our knives. (edge one molecule wide)

Reality is, that even a good electric storm can take out a lot of things today. Even me. Flooding house and squeegee with aluminum handle with lightning a half mile away was getting to me. Felt like GM HEI but I still had to keep pushing the water out the door. .
Immediately after the storm went looking for the red “hot wire gloves” used by the electric company guys and girls. Found a pair but suffered sticker shock. Bought them anyway and they live in my car now.

You see video of people with aluminum hats as jokes, but if you want to protect small electronic devices, wrapping them in heavy aluminum foil does work as long as you keep the wires inside and figure 8 wrapped tightly. Induction cook tops work well with iron pots but if you were to make a ten turn coil and examine the terminal voltage available from the induction cooktop you might begin to realize why the figure 8 wrap is needed.
Watch a Utube on the welding of log chain. One coil and the temperature goes up a couple thousand degrees in seconds. This is how we do many welding jobs today. Welders for modern car bodies are one turn coils positioned by servo robots.

One dirty fusion bomb burst fifty miles high can kill the alternator in your car from a thousand miles away if it was designed to do that. We knew that in 1966. Found out the hard way.

Modern stuff is fine until the EMP hits it. Try to imagine the controllers and regenerative circuits in a modern electric car shorting out the battery array after the EMP shorts out the controllers. .
Try calulating the BTU or KWH available in a car that can deliver enough horsepower to go 300 miles at 60 MPH. Now try to imagine expending that energy in about one second. STILL WANT AN ELECTRIC CAR??

The 1957 automotive technology for most vehicles would still loose the hybrid radios but most of the cars would survive the EMP. You could have the only car on the block that still runs.one second after the air burst that happened hundreds of miles away.
1960 cars,,,,,,,??? nope.
Fire trucks from the 40’s with Leece Nevelle alternators might be smoked even thoiugh the diode pack has a forward drop really high. but the reverse tolerated voltage really small. Selenium is more safe than germanium or silicon; but how much?

Un-plugging things in an electric storm is a great idea, but if you don’t take the time to figure 8 wrap the cords tight to the device as opposed to just leaving them lay out on the floor you are pretty much leaving antennas for lightniing EMP pulses..

If you have a power pole next to your house that gets turned to toothpicks by lightning, there will be high current damage so extensive inside the house the repair cost might make the house a total loss even though the house did not catch fire.
Iron pipe turned blue, copper pipe with the solder blown out ot the joints. Every Romex wire visible by the dark streak across the ceiling and up the walls. And then there is the glass from every window all over the floor due to the pressure wave around the house. Now also consider that the roof rafters also were heavily stressed by the sudden differntial pressure sufficient to break those windows. Think pounds per square inch and get out your physics books and bone up on exponents as you will be dealing with Carl Sagan numbers. .
In a hurricane the way to survive is to close the windward doors and windows but leave the leaward doors and windows open so as to cause a vacuum that will tend to hold the roof down tight. Go the other way and the house will blow up like a baloon until it bursts.
This is what happens in electric pulses that heat water and air. . I have seen people survive with minor cuts. The strange thing was that the components did exceed 451 degrees but the wood did not ignite. A water well, in one case, 300 feet away was smoked as it was the final path for the current. The pipe all the way to it was turned blue. Even the pump jack was totaled.

Look up fission vs fusion at the molecular level the process is electric. and there is no glue. Change the distances in the molecule structure and bad things happen.

For those who keep up with things the latest idea which has no solution that makes the global warming idea that turned North America into a huge lake a couple times recently (earth time)
and strikes by big chunks of ice and iron look like childs play,,,,,,,,,,,, is the idea of magnetic pole switching. The current idea is that the magnetic core can shut down and re-start with opposite polarity. The bad news is the possiblity that the time during the switch leaves the shield components of the atmosphere drifting out into space. Everything from infrared to gamma rays hitting you is not survivable if the shield is gone. For a while fish are safe but also remember that organic material makes a dirty ocean and a totally clean ocean is a “dead” ocean.
If the organic run off fails to happen for a billion years the ocean critters will starve. Everybody has to eat. In the ocean it begins with bacteria that eat anything that will stand still and be eaten.
From there you expand the food chain to blue whales.

There is a lot more to worry about than Chinese bombs. Personally my bet is on Magnetic pole reversal. as currently the pole is shifting faster each day. So fast at present there is no paper chart that is accurate for it as nobody bothers to paper plot the location when it is no longer correct the next day. BING “MAGNETIC POLE SHIFT” and then be afraid. be very afraid.
The pole that was in Canada is now in Russia and gaining speed.

I work for the Boeing Corp on the aerospace side. We developed a pulse weapon years ago. If China or any other nation wants to pulse us, we can pulse them right back.

if you are a christian by faith you will not have to worry about those just the unbelievers that don’t practice what they preach

If placed in the right locations EMPS and HPMs could knock out our ability to respond with nuclear weapons or any other way. We are “sitting ducks”. The people we have in government are so busy covering their asses and trying to get re-elected they haven’t raised their heads above the bunkers in Washington to see what the rest of the world is doing sense Reagan.

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I’m not sure I understand why you feel China is such a threat…? After all, we owe them $1.4 trillion in loans to fund our $16 trillion deficit, plus we are their #1 trading partner. Doesn’t seem logical they would want to do anything that might disrupt the status quo… As for EMP’s…in one tiny burst the sun gives off more than China could ever think of generating.

Umm, Frank, EMP destruction has been pretty well known for ages. A small nuclear bomb detonated over the US will provide EMPs. Jessica Alba starred in “Dark Angel” back in 2000 that used that as a premise for post-apocalyptic world.

Kim, the term is hardened, meaning shielded against nuclear weapons, Hardwired simply means permanently connected, as in not modular.

Frank,

As has already been pointed out, EMP knowledge has been around for a VERY long time. In fact, a report was given to our government about how bad we could be hurt by one (1), yes just one nuclear bomb set off in the upper atmosphere at the same time the 9/11 report was delivered. Unfortunately, this was deemed as unimportant compared to the 9/11 report. Our government had it backwards! Think about Iran. A country who already “lives” decades upon decades behind western civilization. They could launch 3-5 nukes, detonate in the atmosphere above several major countries and take out the entire world. China is the least of my worries. We’ve got psychos in North Korea and Iran that worry me much more!

As for the idea that you can’t be hurt unless you’re close (150-200 miles), that is only if it detonates at ground level. If it detonates in the upper atmosphere, it could take out the entire US. Without proper protection, it would fry all electronics. The only protection would be things that are underground or within a Faraday box. Want an idea of what America would look like afterwards, read William Forstchen’s ‘One Second After’.

This is all speculation of course, but based on everything I’ve read, an EMP attack is only second to an American economic collapse as it pertains to threats here. The latter appears to be imminent.

Frank

Really, where have you been the last 50 years, EMP’s has been known about since the first Atomic Bomb. As far as our military is concerned why do you think all of our equipment cost so much because almost everything has been what they called hardwired. What you need to worry about is the Solar, wind systems and anything else you have sold people on because these will not work if a EMP should go off with in 150 to 200 miles of you.