ObamaCare launch is bumpy. There’s much more turbulence ahead.
By now we’ve all heard that the much-anticipated launch of the ObamaCare health insurance exchanges has been nothing short of a disaster. The healthcare.gov website opened for business on October 1, but users are still having major problems with the site’s many glitches.
The government had months to get this website set up and working properly, but many people are giving up trying to enroll due to all of its issues. The original estimate for the cost of the site was $93 million. It’s now gone up to $634 million. And per usual, guess who pays for that? That’s right, you and me and many other taxpayers who wanted nothing to do with ObamaCare in the first place.
As House of Representatives Speaker John Boehner asked, “How can we tax people for not buying a product from a website that doesn’t work?”
Some computer experts are saying that it will take months before the site is operating correctly. One said that because people will continue to try to use it while it’s being fixed, it will be like trying to repair a car while it’s driving. Apparently, those in the know realized the website would have a lot of problems before the launch took place, but it was pushed through anyway.
Here’s my take on this. Eventually the computer issues will be fixed and eventually everyone will forget about the problems associated with the ObamaCare launch. But that’s when the real problems will start that will make these computer issues seem like child’s play.
Businesses will be forced to cut staff, people will lose the health insurance they have through employers, states will go bankrupt and the economy will suffer. All that will occur due to ObamaCare working the way it was intended to. I’ll take computer problems over that any day of the week.
Are you surprised to see ObamaCare get off to such a rocky start, or is this pretty much what you had expected? Please feel free to chime in.
I agree that healthcare is a must!
Let’s realize that the only real healthcare is when one takes personal responsibility for eating right, exercising and not thinking that medicine Dr’s have any answers. taking a pill is NOT the answer. It only enriches big Pharma… take control of your health, research it, drink more pure water, avoid flouride, caffeine, vaccines, and health propaganda.
With the economy the way it is, I shut my company down and retire. As my insurance premiums rose higher and higher, ( as ACA came closer to becoming law ) I kept raising my deductible to keep my premiums under 700.00 a month with a 10K deductible. I finally canceled my insurance because I could not afford it any more because they raised the premium again and only said I could raise the deductible again to lower the payment.
I finally gave in and went to a ACA rep. to help and I was told that since I did not work or file a tax return any more, I DID NOT QUALIFY FOR OBAMA CARE !!
I told them I don’t work any more, I don’t have an income and under the law I don’t file an income tax return any more. They said TOO BAD for You. BUT, insurance is to be affordable for Everyone……..Bull S !!
This is the real reason we need UNION’s. I work part-time and have almost all the coverage a full timer has it raised the weekly dues like a dollar more a week. You can thank the people who had the UNION’s collapse wanting lower priced products and moving the companies out of the States.
ALL A UNION DOES IS BRING THE BEST WORKER DOWN TO THE LEVEL OF THE WORST WORKER AND PROTECT THE LOSEY ONES. I KNOW I WAS IN A UNION FOR 27 YEARS.
Health care is a must.
AS LONG AS IT IS FREE ANY SOMEONE THAT WORKS IS PAYING FOR IT. RIGHT?????????
Healthcare is not, and never has been a “right” … That’s like say “Eating is a must” … that does not mean the government should be the benificent Oz providing what people need to get and work for. You’re advocating socialism which is just creeping communism. You need to read what communism ends up doing to a people … Read the greatest literary genius who lived in the 20th century on the disaster you’re advocating her, in Alexander Sotzenitesn book The Gulag Archepelego … (his last name is probably spell a bit differently, it Russian)
Just as I and many expected. This was designed to fail from the start. Just one of the many ways Obama is using to bing this Country to its knees. Have a flawed system, folks can’t get coverage, they get sick and hopefully die, business let go workers, business cut benefits for workers remaining, displaced workers have to apply for Obama care that is majorly flawed,then can’t get coverage, then they have to pay penalties, they then lose their homes, and on and on.
Can we see what is going on here??? Remember Hitler??? Same thing just newer version. Population control, and destroy the greatest country on earth. It’s going to worese folks, we need to organize and put a stop to this socialistic communism.
My health care insurance has double. How can people keep paying the premiums?
I am so sorry for alot of Americans faceing the Obamacare delema. I am aware that the Government can and will do what they want with the so called citizens of America. That is the one shown reason we have what we have. But they main reason we have such screwed up Government is WE THE PEOPLE. We elect all those people into office. We use prejudism, hate, idealogy,color, race, origin, hearsay to guide our decisions into voting into office all these ideots. Why cry when we get shafted by the people we elect? Be smart about it. Next time you vote. Vote the right way and support who you voted for. Don’t just vote because they blow white smoke up your asses. The way i see it. All welfare people have everything coming. Maybe we should give up everything and not own anything so the Government can take care of all. Just imagine not having to work like the good for nothing people, or those gang members, or the drug addicted people. Just smoke weed and be happy. Or better yet if you are not into weed just drink. why bother to work if the Government is taking all your money anyway. Weed is legal now, So go buy yourself a pound and stay at home or under a bridge and just smoke away. If you go to jail, it’s Ok, You’ll be with the Boy’s or Girls either way the Government is still taking care of you. It’s called ‘PRISON NATION’ . What is Fredom anyway? Only the rich can enjoy life. the rich get richer with our labors. The righ get richer with our farm food. The rich get richer with our help. Stop helping the rich. The rich get into the right seats like in congress. Statesmen, learn to play the money game and your life will look and be different.
“To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes The propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical” – Thomas Jefferson
Anyone who would force someone to purchase something they are against is to me a capital crime and should be punishable by death. Anyone who would compel a nation to do the same is a scum of the earth and I hope it gets eradicated soon and I have no sympathy for how he goes.
Punishable by death? What about ALL the People who piss and moan about fees to renew your car registration and proof of insurance? Can I go kill congress members because they’re forcing me to pay into a system I don’t want??? Get a grip. Suck it up buttercup. Why do you think our seniors take buses to Canada to get their prescribed meds? Because Canada switched to socialized medicine and not only has it NOT resulted in chaos and mayhem….it’s HELPED their economy.
The ACA has not yet been implemented in its entirety. Portions of it keep getting put off, I would say for political purposes (surprise).
Stay tuned. I would say you ain’t seen nothin’ yet.
Obamacare is working as planned. It was never intended to be real healthcare but rather the beginning of control over us Americans. Having to pay for something we don’t even want is icing on the cake. If anybody in government did their job right, Obama would’ve been impeached by now and convicted.
You are exactly right if the people of this great country were paying attention to what that fake president is doing they would have impeached him long ago, I hope that he gets something worse as being removed does no compensatory action for the people that he has robbed and raped.
If John Adams likes the ObamCare he DOES NOT understand the plan . This is ALL about control. Think about it , what did Hitler do? He gained control of the people by telling what he would do for them. We as people have been listing to the Government for too long. We MUST start to think for ourselves. We need to wake up and stare listing to what Dr. Ben Carson is saying . And We as a Nation MUST TURN OUR HEARTS BACK to GOD.
Obama Care is a good idea – – – in Theory. But when you get a lot of greedy politicians and insurance companies involved, well, you end up getting the Green Weenie while these crooked men and women laugh at the American Citizen all the way to the bank with their pockets stuffed with your hard earned cash. Why? Because of all the confusion involved in trying to get this political hot potato off the ground. When you have confusion, you can ask for more money to be thrown at a technical problem in hopes of a final solution, like getting the computer system up and running. The greater the confusion the greater chance of losing tract of the amount of money thrown at the problem. This is the American Political System, just throw enough money at something and hope that it will solve the problem.
Now, the insurance companies will do their level best to short change the American public enrolled in the Obama Care Program by eliminating their old policies and programs and then substituting a substandard policy or have no policy at all.
The kicker is this, if you do not have insurance you will be fined against your income taxes. Meanwhile there will be a lot of citizens without insurance because they really can’t afford it. Some people were dropped from their old insurance policy because the insurance company has found it prudent to pass these people along to the Obama Care direction. This way the insurance company can maximize their profits by subsidizing a lower form of the same policy or have another carrier cover this ex-customer.
The bottom line is this, we are all lined up for the slaughter. There will be no appeal, no one to turn to, Obama Care is set to automatic and we are in for the ride of our lives – at the cost of our lives. You don’t believe me then just look at the Veteran’s Administration situation. If the Government can do this poor treatment to our Veterans how much more will they treat us? When the Republicans take over Congress in 2015, all I can say is stay tune for part two. We will truly see how screwed up they will turn Obama Care into. Obama Care will turn from a running joke to a total nightmare.
it is not a good idea. when we are told we must buy something we don’t want it’s unlawful and bad. Wife lost her insurance and the new is higher, higher deductible, no prescription, and dr visits higher. tell me and America what so good about it. Adding that illegals get free coverage. Cliff have you lost you ungodly mind.
It is not a good idea. Having only one place to buy health insurance is like having only one brand of car to buy. The seller has no competition and can dictate whatever price he desires. Insurance companies charge more because they are forced to due to the stipulations in Obamacare requiring coverages that we don’t need. Eventually the insurance companies will be out of business due to Obamacare.
8 It is better to trust in the Lord: then to put confidence in man.
9 It is better to trust in the Lord: then to put confidence in Princes.
Psalm 118 The Center of The Bible by Verses
My 84 year old dad just lost his health insurance plan that he has had for decades due to Obummercare. He voted for Obama and thought the ACA was a great idea. There is a reason that the worst parts of it have been delayed until after this election cycle. Remember that Obama thinks old people should only get palliative care – “Just take a pill”. Doctors are quiting and employers are dropping employee health plans.
if it is so great, why do they have a law you have to buy it or be fined?????
My son was rejected from health care because he had high blood pressure. Because of Obama Care, he now has health insurance. You cannot imagine the peace of mind that gives me.
I think that anyone who is jumping for joy and bragging that they now have obtained affordable health insurance should include their annual income. I make about $100,000 / year and lost my company insurance plan. I checked out the ACA website and found an extremely expensive monthly payment with a very high deductible for a family of 3, as compared to my former company plan. I am paying for those low / no income types that get the low monthly payments!
I do not understand ANYONE who claims that they cannot get affordable healthcare from ACA. I couldn’t get healthcare prior to Obamacare due to a pre-existing condition. I signed up on March 30th (only a 40 minute phone wait) and my premiums are only $116 per month!!! So anyone who says they cannot afford the premiums truly have not looked into this. And…my deductable is 0 (zero)!!!! Come on people….stop all the negative chatter and stop listening to lies from people who have not even checked it out. Not only did I get ObamaCare, but before doing so…I took the time to read the entire ACA Bill. Yep all 2300+ pages. No where in the bill does it discuss death panels, or letting our elderly die because they will not get healthcare over a certain age. And yes, the young can get sick just as the older generation. But guess what? They can get great care at low rates through ObamaCare. If it didn’t work….over 9 million people would not have signed up for it. Healthcare is a basic right for all….NOT JUST THE WEALTHY. Take some time and look into it and you will find it is WONDERFUL.
I,m happy for kathyfixit, but I suspect she doesn,t have a job or she wouldn’t have time to read the 2000 pages.she probably receives a discount dinANCED BY US WORKING STIFFS. WHAT A COUNTRY. ENJOY IT BEFORE IT ALL COMES TUMBLING DOWN
couldn’t agree more Mr William,
Kathyfixit,
9 million people signed up because obamacare was showed to their trout and they have to so they don’t get penalized. I have read hundreds of comments from people who DID look into it and DID signed up and you are the ONLY one I know who have an affordable insurance. Everyone else premium more then doubled. My friend in Denver, CO is now paying 1300 with high deductiblefor the family of four from the originaly 560.
ObamaCare was shown to their trout? 9 million people signed up because a fish would penalize them if they didn’t?
For the record, I had a part-time job teaching English at a prison. Hours were monitored so it’d never become a full-time job with healthcare benefits. I signed up for ObamaCare and it literally saved my physical and financial life when I encountered a completely unexpected health issue while attending a prison workshop. I was in the hospital over three weeks and survived with excellent care. I was surprised when I found out how much was covered by ObamaCare. I suppose I should add that most of my life was spent working at a full-time job that provided health insurance until former President Bush decided to consolidate Medicare B offices. I planned on working until I was 70, but ended up having to retire at 62. I’m now one of those lay-abouts living on Social Security and a reduced early pension. My annual income is now about $21,500 a year. My monthly health insurance payment is about $90 a month. I had no major health problems while I had company health insurance. I’m thankful for ObamaCare.
I don’t spend $117 a year for medical care. Why should I be FORCED to buy health insurance that costs me more a month than I spend in a year. I’m one of those working poor that Obamacare is suppose to help. Heaven help us if THEY ever get that system figured out. Obama stop trying to run my life…
Nice for you. But is this the land of the free? Why should I be FORCED to buy something I neither want nor need just to help pay for health care for aliens, dopers, drunks and lazy good for nothings!
YEAH, RIGHT! A WONDERFUL *PRETEND* LAW!
Everyone who *bought* into this SCAM, with a PHONY president, a PHONY senate (where obamacare “originated” in violation of the “origination clause, et. al.) making it UNLAWFUL ab initio, are suffering from the newly discovered STUPID virus! It’s real. Check Natural News for details.
I also read it before signing up, so hang in there Kathy, it might be affordable now, but let’s talk 3 years from now. My insurance has climbed every year AND my out of pockets expenses for Dr. visits, drugs, Hospital anything (blood tests, X-rays, etc) have increased by 30%. I alone pay $250 deductible each yr medical plus $200 deductible for drugs, and things I never had to pay for are now costing me. My premium a month for 2015 went up to $165 a month. I have to have approval for even the simplest of things and the wait can be up to 3 weeks. My Dr. has paperwork up the ying yang and procedures to follow that actually cost me more than if I just had done what they eventually wanted in the first place. So I do hope you stay happy but you’d be one of the few.
One more thing, is your hospital covered under your medical? Read Ann Coulter’s piece on her surprise and shock of not being able to go to the hospital she wanted in her area.
Kathy, if you read the entire 2300 pages of ACA and have not come to the conclusion that the IPAB clause is not an insidious mechanism to control people’s lives, then I would guess that the legalese went right over your head. Those who read through the IPAB clause with true understanding came up with the nickname “death panel”. Took a look at the fine job of research on IPAB offered by Michael F. Cannon and Diane Cohen: http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/ipab-obamacares-superlegislature
Glad it works for you but I have to pay over 1500.00 per month for my health insurance due to Obamacare. Can you afford to pay that every month. It helps a few but hurts everyone else
Have you used your new ACA insurance yet? And have you found a Dr. That will accept it. Or do you have a plan that only 10% of the Dr’s in a given geographical are are allowed to give you care. So I’d say plan on a sick day well into the future so ,maybe, just maybe you’ll get care for that $ 116.00 premium that I get the courteousy of paying the subsidies for you.
Well Kathyfixit, you really don’t see what’s going on, except your situation. While your son has $116 per month premiums, my premium went to $1743/ month!!!
With a $6800 deductible. So what Obamacare is- insurers getting rich for a few years, only to go bankrupt, less care for middle class folks because they cannot afford the deductibles. The lie was that you couldn’t get care. Walk into any ER and they MUST give you care. Why are Mexicans getting free weekly dialysis visits in Texas? Why are foreigners flying their sick parents to the US and taking them to ER’s. Because the law says people must be treated.
I don’t know what kind of a deal you got! I lost my insurance because of a divorce. So I went to the Obama-don’t-care website and after three hours of trying to navigate that abortion of a website I gave up & called my agent. He got me on Obama-don’t-care. My premium was $217./month, deductible $6,000, & out of pocket expense $6,850. Now what is so great about that deal. If I wasn’t on disability & needed the prescription coverage I would have said forget it. Two months after I got on Obama-don’t-care the sons of biscuit eaters cancelled me. Oh yeah, I don’t qualify for Obama-don’t-care because I have Medicare Part A. I am not eligible for Part B & D till July. So now I have NO freaking insurance & am paying for my Dr visits & meds out of my own pocket till July when I can get on Medicare. And they are still sending me letters telling me if I don’t provide them with the information they are requesting, which I have given them three times, they are going to cancel my policy…SERIOUSLY!!! The idiots cancelled me months ago. Screwed up mess just like everything else good old Obama has done. Note to Michelle…keep your day job, you sucked on NCIS Tuesday night.
So again, explain to what’s so great about Obama-don’t-care?
@david. I no more believe you than Obama. I went to shop comparable insurance for my family of four. It is 25,000 a year. If you are happy with your insurance than you had very substandard insurance in the 1st place. This socialist agenda is another Ponsi disaster. Not everyone is an idiot.
The original estimate for the cost of the site was $93 million. It’s now gone up to $634 million. WOW! …and they’re trying to make 7,000,000 families signed up as an absolute success. That’s out of 88,000,000 families in the entire US.* I call that an abject FAILURE! *(317 million pop with 3.59 persons per family)
My wife and I were on a program that worked for us, but because of the ACA (Obama care) it was shut down. We have checked into other coverage and realized that we can’t afford it at all. Obama care is definitely not something we can afford. We are both almost 60. We have learned to live with no debt on less than $1200 per month. Everything we own is paid for. We don’t get government assistance. We live frugally and still travel around on our Harley each summer.
Now though, we have no heath care at all and even though we may qualify for Medicaid we refuse to give up our assets to the government. We are worse off because of Obama care. The fine is the lesser of evils we face and so we will pay it if needed. However, income is so low for us and it’s all still so confusing I don’t know how it we will be affected by all of it in the end. We trust in the Lord to provide for our needs and He has so far.
I do believe Obama care will eventually be replaced or fixed. I don’t believe people are just lying about the trouble they are having with it. I don’t believe the majority of Americans are ready to be controlled by the government. It should be a choice to have health care and what kind. I don’t believe what we have is the answer, but hope that it can be worked out for the future for my children and grandchildren and future generations.
ACA is the best improvement to happen to the US health care system since its conception.
If ACA has caused you problems, it because your state insurance laws/ insurance company purposely put barriers so ACA would not work with your policy.
blame your state insurance laws / companies, not ACA
John,
if ACA is the best that happened to us why is it not AFFORDABLE?
Excuse me, my state didn’t cancelled my ACA policy, the ACA did. I am happy that its working for you, because it has made my life a living hell.
Obama-care; ignorance superseded by stupidity!
I choose to reply to this comment. This healthcare system is going to be responsible for the deaths of people. There is no way that this is not going to happen. There are already pages of regulations and more will be added. Everything is adusted now to try to get the dems back into office. People are either getting freebe health insurance or paying huge prices right now. People have lost good jobs and benefits all because of this. This is the plan. Those of us who disagree with the supporters of the ACA are going to be proven right. Look at the what is happening to the veterans right now. The person who read the bill has not read the regulations. The regulations are always where the damage is done. Look at what the EPA is doing with its regulations as a very good example.
It’s affordable for me.
If we don’t have a bunch of old sick people hanging around, then we won’t need insurance. Isn’t that the logic in obama care? the only problem is that the young get sick also. Who’s going to take care of them and cover their insurance needs? Not Obama…
Well guess I’m the only one that has signed up for ObamaCare. And I have no problems with it meet my deductibles and my insurance and my doctor and physical therpy all are getting paid and are very happy with the coverage that I’m getting so some body telling lies somewhere and MY MONTHLY PAYMENTS ARE AFFORDABLE TO ME. My wife works and her company still give her insurance at a reasonable prices also and we still get to keep our same doctor we have had for 15 years are longer so I have no issue with the new insurance. AS far as the website we went on there and got call backs the next day and was set up with payments and due date within 3 business day maybe people just don’t like change in their lives. Sorry that so many are having the trouble they are having but maybe they should close their ears for moment and stop bitching and see what going on and how OBAMACARE DOES WORK . PEOPLE GOT THE BAD HABIT OF LISTENING TO ALL BAD COMMENTS AND NEVER CHECK IT OUT ON THIER ON. AS SOME OF MY FRIEND SAY WHEN I TELL THEM IT WORKS THIER REPLY IS (YOUR THE ONLY ONE THAT IT WORK FOR.) SO I GUESS I’M THE ONLY PERSON IN THE U.S. WITH INSURANCE!!!
Well Mr. Youngblood I do not know where your coming from with your story but, good luck to you and nice that you can afford your deductibles,but you must not be one of the 38 MILLION AARP members that are going to loose there Soc./Sec and Medicare too. I believe you not one of the MILLIONS that lost there coverage,do you READ THE PAPERS AT ALL ???
It works for me!
I’m happy for you because I can’t afford one under Affordable Care.
Promise the world, point the finger. The buck stops over there somewhere. Bam-Bam is a good a salesman, not much of a foreman.
I have worked in healthcare for almost 45 years, & never thought I would see this kind of nightmare. People seem to have no idea what they have signed up for, & very many of them have deductibles that are huge for most families, in the 4-5 thousand per person. I am seeing people turn away from necessary care, from diabetes or other medical issues. because their families can’t afford it. It is tragic………These are not healthy people declining recommended tests; these are medically sensitive people that can’t afford their deductibles now,