Whatever happened to doing things the natural way?
You may have heard that recently the Supreme Court sided with genetically modified food giant Monsanto against farmers in a suit with widespread implications for both groups. Monsanto has been trying to stop farmers from using seeds from Monsanto’s GMO crops from one season to the next.
From the farmer’s standpoint, being able to harvest their crops and use those new seeds for the next season is a big money saver. From Monsanto’s perspective, the company faced the possibility of developing new species of plants and then basically going into competition against their customers who used them.
Monsanto is the largest producer of GMO crops. The company created a series of plants including soybeans that can withstand an active ingredient in many weed killers. With Monsanto’s crops, farmers are free to spray weed killer without fear that it will damage the crops. In ruling against farmers, the judge said that the purchaser of a patented product cannot make new copies of that patented product.
Regardless of how that case would have come out, the biggest losers may be the people who eat the alarmingly large amount of genetically modified food now being produced in this country. It has been proven century after century in America and elsewhere that the purest form of vegetables and fruits are the ones that come from open pollinated, non-genetically modified, heirloom seeds. There are still many questions out there about GMO foods and the long-term threat they may pose to the health of those who consume them.
This article explains the court case in more detail. Legally speaking, it’s very possible that the Supreme Court made the correct decision in this case. After all, if someone published a book and then someone else made a bunch of copies of that book and sold them, that wouldn’t be right.
But either way, genetically modified foods will continue to be produced and consumed in huge quantities. Are you concerned about this? Do you believe that there are legitimate reasons for trying to halt the production of genetically modified foods, at least until more research is conducted? Hope to hear from you about this.
Also, I have a very special solution for this particular problem that will eliminate Monsanto from the equation (at least in your life…) for good. See it here.
I say EVERY COMPANY who condones selling “MODIFIED” food to the population should be investigated to see what THEIR FAMILIES EAT!
I bet its NOT modified either!
And you wonder why all of these diseases persist.
How to prevent disease???
For starters…REAL FOOD!!
I have heard the problem with the bees are related to sprays( insecticides?) that have nicotine in them
I observe (with wry amusement) the tirades against GMO foods. I do hope that these uninformed commentators will never again eat a navel orange, definitely a GMO.
The problem with this fruit is that God (not Monsanto) is the villain who tampered with this orange’s genes to the point that this orange will not even reproduce. (All navel orange trees are cloned.)
Are you retarded? Humans have “genetically modified” every type of food, both animal and vegetable, since the dawn of civilization, using SELECTIVE BREEDING. If anyone is to blame for the current state of navel oranges, it’s the good old Human Race. God had nothing to do with it.
Monsanto throws way too much money at DC lobbying for anyone to stop them. This is sick.
They will not have any say so if Trump gets in,weather he lets them continue is another story.Lets hope
The other day, someone handed me a flier. I was shocked when I read it. Here are the highlights:
– Schools are having children read a book that explains to them all the “benefits” of GMO foods, stating these foods are better for them than natural foods because they contain more nutrients. The children are not allowed to take the books home, so their parents can’t read them.
– The “Safe and Accurate Food Labeling” act of 2015 (H.R. 1599) just passed the House Agriculture Committee, and will be voted on in congress any day now, if it hasn’t already. This act is just the opposite of what the name implies: it will allow food manufacturers to hide that their foods are GMO and make it illegal to label foods as Non-GMO.
Go to justlabelit dot org for actions you can take.
When did liars and manipulators take over our country? Does anyone in power have any integrity any more?
Its is a good thing Monsato did not have the same thing with cross bred cows where we would not be able to use the calves to reproduce and would have to buy a new cow and bull everytime to get a calf to butcher What
My Dear Friends: I have read many of the comments posted here. I firmly believe it is too late to do anything about G.M.O.’s. I am a Christian and believe the end is near. All the signs mentioned in the Bible are happening everyday. Please, put your trust in the Lord. Prepare for War, but pray for Peace.
Agreed. However, we are supposed to hate evil and Monsanto is part of the evil we wrestle against. Stand firm! Keep wrestling for others’ sakes.
People, I am one of Monsanto’s victims Google Monsanto Anniston, AL 1978
And what happened to you, physically, medically?
I got uterine cancer 30 years before the average age. My eldest daughter had a hysterectomy at age 34 due to fibroid growths which more than doubled the size of her uterus, and my yoUnger daughter has had both ovaries removed after hemorrhaging blood into her abdomen. Her hysterectomy is scheduled in 2 months, she is 37. A bit much for coincidence don’t you think?
Don’t look now, but it’s really a matter of degree. Once you get into the labeling game you have fallen prey to the marketers, the government and the integrety of who you are dealing with; labeling is basically a slippery slope which can change as the definitions of the words change or are interpreted. As the demand for heirloom seeds goes up and the price goes up accordingly can they be “produced” in the quantities needed or will quality suffer. Remember this is a natural product not a manufactured piece of plastic or metal. As more seeds are demanded[at a higher price] how does anyone know what you are getting and the quality? Plain and simple you can only depend on the reputation of the supplier, and as time goes along and that may not be constant. As an illustration, are Japanese cars still as deserving of their reputations as they used to be; ask someone who has had a transmission problem with a Toyota and see how much fun they had, and there are a lot more than you think! Once the government gets involved in the labeling game all is lost since the definition constantly changes. Veal used to be “white” when you bought it 35 years ago, now its almost impossible to find a piece that is not red.
For those interested in more info (and please pass along). Youtube vides: “Darth Vadar Chemical” says it all. Also, “Genetic Roulette” (long version). And the book ” The World According to Monsanto” will make you furious.
Another part of the GMO mess is the pesticides used. Monsanto promised farmers they would use less, but after 3 yrs. they end up using more. Now Glyphosate (Roundup) doesn’t work so the FDA just approved the use of Agent Orange on our food. Those pesticides have been proven to cause hormonal and neurological disorders. Is it any wonder every family in this country has some member with cancer, diabetes, ADHD, Autism, Asbergers, Alzheimers, etc. No one is NOT affected. So one has to wonder why the government lets this happen. What better way to decrease the population, than to kill the off, especially if you can make it happen before they are eligible for Soc. Sec. As you age your immune system falters and you cannot fend off all these toxins. You are a sitting duck!
I like Daniel’s definition of “pessimist” – an optimist with experience!. I get accused of being pessimist when I think I am being a realist. Anyhow, the New World Order is not on its way, it is upon us. Everything talked about on this site all the time is proof. There is no turning back without revolution and there will be no revolution because those who would revolt if they could are too old and the younger generation do not have the mindset. Those on this site who hate to hear about the Bible, I feel for you because the Bible predicted all these happenings. Jesus said things would worsen and worsen and that his believers would suffer and die for their beliefs but not to lose faith because all these happenings mean that the time is drawing near for his gathering of believers and his return as Avenging King Judge. I am personally a victim of the polluted planet we live on. I am immuno-compromised, get sick very easily, stay sick for long periods, cannot eat any raw foods without suffering toxicities – have to cook everything before eating and eat a very limited diet – the same thing every day – because most foods cause reactions. I have a developmentally disabled child due to my being ill during pregnancy. We are all suffering in some way because of humanity’s disregard for the natural order of life as originally created. Our only hope now is to seek after the Creator and his truth and be good to ourselves and our neighbors as best we can. Sure, grow your own food if you can. Sure exercise your rights while you still have some rights. Don/t ever give up of keeping on keeping on. But, voting and writing your politicians, legislatures, senator, congress doesn’t work. I’ve done all this. The criminals running our governments are not listening. You will get a nice “form letter” response with a polite thank you for writing. But they continue to do as they please. When they run for office, they promise what they think their constituents want, but when they get in they do as they please. If the are half-way honest when they enter politics and/or government, that soon changes and they become as the others in order to survive their surroundings. I have personally had to legally fight with the state regarding benefits for my disabled child more than once. It is a nightmare. I was face to face with lawyers and administrators who thought nothing of lying under oath. I was one against a panel of six. When the economy crashed here in the US I had my only savings in real estate, which in my entire adult life ha been the safest investment. But in 2008 the government and the banks got together and devalued my properties to where I could not sell and get my equity, ultimately resulting in my having to file bankruptcy, which my first attorney messed up and had to finally fire and am currently refiling through another attorney, who is supposed to be helping me get a modification on my current home mortgage, but he seems to not be doing his job either. This is not happening because I bought property I could not afford, it happened because the property was devalued and could not get back the money I invested. One property was fully paid out but could not get an offer on it. People, do not fool yourselves in thinking this will all blow over in time and get better in time. Look at the rest of the world, is anything getting better? This is a world-wide happening and it has been planned by the criminals in control of the world system that has been working behind the scenes while we here in America were enjoying our freedoms.
Love, prayers, blessings to all
I’m of mixed sentiment on all this… partly because of my training. There is no safe anthing. There is no food, liquid, or substance on this planet that can’t hurt you if you miss use it. I choose to use heirloom seeds but I’m not blind to the fact that even they are the product of “genetic engineering” over thousands of years. Have any of you seen wild corn? It bares no resemblence to what people eat. Yes, even that heirloom seed is the product of selective breeding over centuries and that same selective breeding is the kind of thing that has given the world miniature poodles that originally came from a wolf. It may not be GMO but it is genetic manipulation and make no mistake about that. We’re being sold an idea that one is bad and the other good. In a survival scenario many people will be lucky to find road kill to eat. It’s all perspective.
halon –
I agree with your mixed feelings about the consumption of genetically-modified foods. I have been somewhat disappointed with the arrogant way various companies have annointed themselves with the job of ‘improving on nature.’ I feel that the various plants and foodstuffs that nature (or, God, if you prefer) created are the way they are for a reason. I am convinced that nothing mankind has done to make our food ‘new and improved,’ or ‘supplemented’, or ‘fortified with Vitamin x,’ is really an improvement over the whole, natural food it is intended to replace.
For Thanksgiving, my wife and I decided to try an ‘Organic’, ‘No hormone’ fed, with ‘no Genetically Modified feed’, turkey. Of course, it cost over 4 times as much ($2.59/lb vs $0.59/lb) as a generic store brand bird. We could not tell a bit of difference in the expensive turkey. So, the one obvious difference, as in all things ‘improved’ is the price the consumer has to pay. In this case, probably not worth it!
One also has to trust that there is really any difference in the two products. The way companies are allowed to redefine terms like ‘Organic’, ‘All-Natural’, ‘Hormone Free’, ‘Low-Fat’, ‘No-Fat’, ‘Low-Salt’, ‘No-Salt’, who can believe anything they put on their packaging?
We came to the conclusion that I will continue to pay attention to the labels and whatever research I can find on food products that we use everyday; but, for the once a year items, like a Thanksgiving Turkey, it will be “Thanks, but no Thanks.”
With regard to survival foods – there is absolutely no concern about any nutritional claims by anybody. We’ve stocked any brand we can get. I do have some heirloom seeds for some of the crops we might be tempted to grow in a long-term survival situation; but, again, any seeds I can get my hands on would be stuck in the ground without concern for modified – or, not modified. As you said, “Road Kill” would make its way onto the menu, if need be!
I do, however, feel there is a basic difference between your comparison of genetically-modified foods and selective-breeding of livestock (and even natural selection modifying species over generations).
In summary, I believe the American People and, by the same logic, all others, have been put at risk for long-term harm without adequate concern for the long-term implications of these genetically-modified products. It’s one thing for a company to “build a better mouse trap”; it is quite another to produce, and market for human consumption, food products and medications to be put into our bodies, without proper safeguards.
To then compound the arrogance by allowing companies to then say that ‘you can’t use the seeds you get from the product we sold you last year, to grow a new crop of the same stuff this year.’ is pure greed! What’s next – Ford will tell us we can’t repair last year’s model because they’ve come up with someting better this year?
Thank you!! I basically repeated what you said, above. I’m glad there are people who actually understand what’s going on in the world, who don’t just jump on the ignorant, knee-jerk bandwagon the second it drives by.
We cannot export our GMO produce. Europe will not accept it.
Seventh Day Adventist, who are largely vegetarians, are not dying from other major killers, buy they are dying from cancer. Could there be a correlation?
I guess pretty soon the government will start producing “Solyent Green”.
Type into your search bar: Pepsi and human embryo…Its already happening. Probably more than we know.
Support local organic farmers!
“With Monsanto’s crops, farmers are free to spray weed killer without fear that it will damage the crops.” The article does not mention the pesticides that are sprayed on these crops. Are you okay with consuming these substances along with your GMO veggies? These chemicals cannot be simply removed by rinsing. Some of it is absorbed by the plants through their roots, so it stays in the food.
The Bees know this and they are being killed off. When this happens we will have to pollinate crops by hand like China.
I think a big part of the problem is that establishment keeps the people divided. If ALL the people woke up and banded together, this and many other political problems could be overcome. But, as it is now, conservatives (of which I consider myself, actually more libertarian), refuse to listen to some of the ideas of the greenies. I listen and they have some good things to say. Yes, some is BS, but a lot of it is good info. If I wanted to build a greenhouse or do container gardening, I certainly would not go to a fellow “conservative” to learn. I would go to a greenie, and yes, I would have to filter out a lot. And greenies should try to learn from conservatives about how free markets really work and how crony-capitalism and big corporations puppeteering governments don’t work. But, alas, we hate each other while the establishment slowly but surely wears us down.
Eric, I think your comment should be applauded! You are exactly correct about the division and it’s purposes and we should be all banning together instead of fighting against each other YES! It is common sense but the machine is doing a good job brainwashing too many minds. We are all people and we all need the same things to have a healthy life, so why we choose to separate and follow liars which only keeps the BS going strong is perplexing in deed. Now let me enlighten all who read this, please listen up and open your mind to consider this truth I speak: There is a reason GMO’s were created, did anyone ever consider this or do you fall for the politics surrounding this issue and leave your thinking cap behind? Global warming/climate change is REAL, in fact it is SO real that it is the reason for this GMO creation. They tell you GMO’s were created to withstand round up and other plant diseases that halt plant growth……OK, so then why are plants not growing well enough anymore? Why are there so many plant diseases & weeds to warrant so much round up and pesticide use “needed” in the first place? Your answer is……..because of global warming/climate change. Global is the plural for Globe, a Globe warming is what we have. A globe warming “causes” extreme weather and natural disasters hence climates change, yes it’s true. Now, the confusion is you are “lead” to “think” global warming is ONLY the globes air temps rising….and we are cooling they say, right? WRONG, the globe itself is what is warming. The “cooling” being seen is not natural it is man made. Weather modification it is. The air temps rising are ONLY an “effect” of the “cause” from a globe warming at it’s core and that heat rising. SO how can the earth be cooling if her core is over heating?? She can’t be, that’s impossible. So what is “causing” the cooling? Chem-trails and haarps are that’s what the cause of the fake cooling is, not natural no. When a globe warms from the inside out it’s heat rises up and is released through the ocean floors and then out of the water and up in to the atmosphere. To show you how real this issue truly is all you simply have to do is LOOK UP at your skies and watch them spray away your sunshine. Pay attention to your earth and her happenings because they are our clues and earth’s way of telling us something is terribly wrong. Everything in the environment is for this purpose to humans. We are being sprayed with harmful chems to combat global warming and the program is named Project Earth and the diagnosis is Geo-Engineering. Geo-engineering is to reduce the sun ( SHADE the sun) from hitting earth’s surface by 2% via jet aircraft with gigantic aerosol spray nozzles attached and spraying the shade in our stratosphere. ( The public has dubbed this sighting as “chem-trails”) Between the earth’s heating and this geo program plants are not able to produce normally any longer. You can still get some growth but production is low, fruit is smaller and so no where near enough for 6 billion mouths. SO they created GMO’s to withstand all of this to continue to grow and feed. Please learn more @ Geoengineeringwatch.org – then continue to stay aware and inform others. I am afraid we are stuck with this nonsense because global warming is out of control. The only way around this is grow as much of your own food as possible why there is still some growing time left. IF you think I am pulling your leg then consider this as well – Our warming of the globe is coming from her core. That molten iron core of lava is heating up and no one really knows why, the warming is NOT caused by the carbon emissions as told. That part is a lie. Easy to know it is a lie if you know where the heat is really coming from, because a core heating up is NOT related to carbons released from the crust ( the ground we stand on is the crust ) up in to the atmosphere. The carbons we release, aka pollution, starts on the ground and goes up, doesn’t go down in to the core, it goes up. So this can not be what is aggravating the core and so dismantles that farce of a reason instantly…if you are awake that is. What does heat do as it heats up? It rises and it expands, basic 1st grade science fact. So this is what our core is doing, rising and expanding and if it is made up of molten iron lava and that is rising up to the surface and expanding where do you think that leads next? What else has these components???? VOLCANO’S that’s what and we all should know that this is where volcanic lava comes from, the core of earth. There is much much more to tell and provide truth for this subject but too long for a comment box. Just know these simple facts and take it further yourself, you will SEE much truth and understand much more. We have a huge problem and the lies are on both sides of the political ring. Drop them all and let’s begin to put our people strength together as Eric has stated, it is still not in place and needs to be or we are not going to solve anything ever and time is very very short now. Earth is having an average of 200 earthquakes globally EVERY single day and ALL volcano’s on the planet are now in a “go” alert of some kind. Yellow = unrest/ orange = active eruption imminent / red = erupting. Volcanodiscovery.com will show you these three colors are on every single volcano on earth today. THAT is the proof of global warming being real. IF the core was not heating up then the volcano’s would not be activated and the earthquakes would not be so abnormally abundant as they are – no news of this ever. They report one quake and there were really 50. It is the biggest scam of a cover up ever in history. So since it is the core, and the core is heating up, and heat rises and the heated core of lava is coming out via volcano’s, and earthquakes because they are “caused” by magma moving under ground – well there is nothing else needed to see this is easy simple logic that yes, it is true. Global warming is real, it is causing havoc in many places and just ONE of those places trying to respond and keep the truth covered up is right here with GMO’s. This is what the chemical polluters who are spraying our blue skies away thought up as a solution to this horrific issue upon us today. Machines do not get sick, human & livestock do. GMO’s do not get sick, natural does. ( cloning livestock is another form of genetic modification) Connect the dots and remove your party hats. Those guys are ALL lying to all of us people and they will go to hell for their horrible lies to people count on it and get out of their way, let them go to hell we don’t need and should not legally have INSANE monsters running the world. Good luck to us all, we are in serious danger and this is what they do not want you to realize. Blessings to all. Hawkeye
Your comments really cut to the heart of the crisis with which we are faced, Eric. If only more people would think for themselves instead of letting others do their thinking for them!
I too am more of a conservative than a greenie, but when a greenie not only identifies the problems [which they are much better at doing than all but a handful of conservatives] but poses what I believe to be good solutions, that greenie has my vote. My whole family rejoiced when such a greenie ran for Commissiner of Agriculture for our state. Alas, he lost, partly because so many of the people in our state mechanically vote a straight Republican ticket, and he was a Democrat.
Humm, go Natural or Genetically Modified Organism, (GMO.) This is really a tough question to answer – NO IT ISN’T – I choose to go with Natural.
Natural what? I am talking about seeds, Natural seeds. Seeds that came from nature without any inducement to its genetic make up to be different from its natural beginnings.
What do I mean? If I took the DNA from one apple species and introduced it into another apple species to improve the taste, size or its ability to resist diseases would that be so bad? The way that I put it you would say, no, I could accept this alteration. Now what if I told you that this genetic manipulation also created no seeds. That way, you wouldn’t have to eat any of those pesky seeds. Now what do you think? Sounds good, right?
Lets look closely at this alteration. If I took the DNA from an obscure fruit, which is a species or even a sub species of the apple family and introduced it to an apple species I wanted to “improve” for it resistance to certain diseases; then took the DNA from another apple species to increase its size, and yet another apple species to make it taste better, then for kicks and giggles; I put in “a failsafe” DNA to prevent the fruit from reproducing so that others can not take my new genetically engineered “Patented” product and profit from it by growing their own; well, this is Monsanto basic plan. You will notice that Monsanto has never stated what genetic material and from what species was added or taken away from a given plant species they want you to eat.
Monsanto would like to get rid of all seeds that bear fruits and vegetables. They want farmers, growers , and yes, you too, to purchase your growing seeds and needs from them. By eliminating natures free seeds, Monsanto profits will increase dramatically.
Monsanto has stated that they have tested their genetically engineered products and they have been determined to be safe for human consumption. That is so funny. How many years has Monsanto tested their products and on who? You? Me? A third world country?
Look, do I want my food treated like it came from Frankenstein’s laboratory or do I want to know what I am getting is natural from Nature, with the benefit of seeds? I have tasted their genetically altered foods and I’m here to tell you I can taste the difference. I prefer Mother Nature’s own. It is fresh, crisper, greener, and cheaper. If a guy can grow one of those super sized pumpkins and sells its seeds at $1.00 per seed; then what do you think Monsanto will charge if it becomes the only major source of food for you and your family? Food for thought.
Heirloom seeds must be protected from cross pollenation with other seeds both hybrid and gmo. as your own future may depend on it. Ths supreme court should protect your right to have pure seed just as monsanto has rights. Good luck with that…
Just got through all of the comments. WOW!!! Very diverse set of opinions, and conclusions. I was born and raised on a Truck Farm, meaning mostly anything you can think of in the way of Poultry and Vegetables. It was a true Farmers Market come true. We rarely went to the Grocery Store, and only to buy essentials that we couldn’t produce ourselves. My Grandmother and Mother Canned so many Veggies and Fruits you wouldn’t believe. Young Chickens were raised, killed, cleaned, cut up, and all the parts were Frozen for later use. All of the Poultry, Beef, and Milk from the Cows was based on what is now known as “Grass Fed”, other than Molasses added to Oats to fatten up young Calves for Meat. I just turned 70 today, and can still remember the “Good Old Days”. Those of you who think that Roundup resistant Seeds, of which some is translocated into the fruit, is safe to eat, you go ahead. Would you consider putting a drop of Roundup in a glass of water and drinking it? Rhetorical question anyway. No one would be foolish enough to do that. But with GMO products, we are actually ingesting a small amount of that product. Just as someone else said in one of the comments, if a Bug won’t eat it, and it is a natural food for whichever Bug, shouldn’t that be some type of warning to us all? We can’t avoid all the Toxins and polluted Food that we consume, but we certainly can avoid most of those that we are/become aware of. For instance, I only buy Pancake Syrup that is labeled “No High Fructose Corn Syrup”. Oh, I didn’t mention that in addition to Truck Farming, we also had back then 25 Acres of Daffodils (Jonquils) that were a real Labor Intensive Crop. We raised 7 or 8 different varieties. I have to stop ranting. I could go on and on. I hope I haven’t stepped on anyone’s toes with my Rant, but if I did, I do not apologize. Take it for whatever you wish. God Bless The United States of America. And, contrary to popular belief, as promulgated by our current President, The United States of America is a Christian Nation.
Amen to that.
I’m 59 and just feel overwhelmed by the bullshit being fed to me. I see both sides of the fence, and I wish for a way out, and as each year that goes by , I see less and less alternatives to escape by.
A stifling burden for a man with a family and a conscience. That can be self sufficient .
I am American, and proud of it.
Dang Charles! –
Just turned 71 grew up on a small dairy farm. Our cows produced milk that went to the neighbors in exchange for eggs. We cleaned out their chicken coops to use the manure on our fields for hay for our cows. Some neighbors grew potatoes, green beans, and other produce that we all got in exchange for our help in harvesting. Everyone had their own gardens that grew other things that were not cash crops; but supplemented the canning and storing for winter use.
Everyone pitched in to gather apples when they ripened and started falling off the trees (it was race to get to get them before the cows broke into the fenced in orchards to eat them). When the sap started running in the maple trees in the spring, everyone tapped the trees, gathered the sap, and boiled it down into maple syrup and maple sugar.
There were no concerns about pesticides and herbicides, no knowledge of GMO products, some were starting to use chemical fertilizers; but, that usage was small because of the cost.
It’s easy to miss the ‘good ol’ days’ and the simpler times. Life was harder (if you consider hard work as a ‘harder life’) but it seemed people were happier and less stressed.
Charles, right on. For those who are in ? about GMO, & for sure Our president please read the book Seeds of deception by Jeffrey Smith.
A couple years ago I took a trip from the southern U.S. up to Montana. I stayed off the freeways and took as many backroads as possible. I was driving through Kansas and was totally surrounded by corn. Miles and miles of corn. To my surprise, I came upon a large office complex. As I drove by, I saw the company’s sign boldly displayed out front: MONSANTO. I wanted to shout out to everyone, “Hey, everyone! Those evil people are right here hiding inside acres of corn!” I’ve often wondered if that was just one of many sites and if they hide in places like that so that it’s not easy for us to picket outside their buildings. I recently started an aquaponic garden. I plan to teach my grandkids everything I can about surviving on their own.
Do you think that Stephen King had Monsanto in mind when he wrote “Children of the Corn.”
A good friend told me that Monsanto won a lawsuit filed against a farmer who planted his corn in a field adjoining one of their “super GMO corn fields. Monsantos claim was that their “patented” corn was being cross-pollinated, and thus it infringed on their patent rights.. Has anyone else heard about this one???
To any and all who are willing to listen and learn! Check out Dr. Mercolas’ site where he interviews Dr. Don Huber regarding GMO’s. To Mike in SD, please do not be deceived about the so called benefits of the GMO seeds you are growing! Mother nature will have the upper hand. In fact she already has. Here in Canada our farmers are paying in Bank Account Breaking prices for their Canola seed “Over $500.00 a bus. for there seed” And receive a measly $9.00-!0.00 for a bus. when they sell and are forced to pay that year after year. Why was MONSATON allowed to use God’s seed, altar it to accept various chemicals, etc. and the “Patent” it and call it there own! Why didn’t they “Create” their own seed, it might then be Patentable and I could understand them charging for it. Remember Mike, there are NO “Peer Reviewed” studies to prove this type of science is harmless. And yet countless studies proving it is. Deception plays a big part in all of this! You will not read any of this in Farm Journals but it is written in the Top Health Journals of the world. Why do you think Europe is so dead against this science. Do you think they may know something we don’t know. We can’t trust our Gov’ts on this either as Monsanto has X employees in the Gov’t. making sure the Laws and Rules are in place to make Monsanto more money. Please, from our Grandchildren’s place on this planet, let us stop the madness now while we possibly still can!
I think it’s already too late. Like Jim, and Chuck said, When Money Talks, People Listen. If the “Thing” in California is correct, and it sounds about right to me, 6 million (us) TO (their) 46 million “says it all” . And I really liked the comment about “SOYLENT GREEN” ! Thank You!, Guys, but, even on this web site, so few know what’s going on. I’ll be on the train to (Auschwitz or Dachau aka FEMA CAMP #6341), to get indoctrinated, by people with, badges that say (How Smart They Are), so, I will understand, indubitably, that all they want for me, (IS: WHAT IS BEST FOR ME!) and (“GOOD WORK, WILL SET YOU FREE!) L O L, now while I can. I know it doesn’t sound so promising, but believe me, I am a, pessimist, which is, really an optimist (with experience) ! You all have a wonderful “Whatever” day! Take Care and Stay Safe! From: DANIEL E. WRIGHT THERE The king, should be able to read that name, without his glasses! Oh!, and Thank You for reading.
Thank *you* for reading. That comment was filled with book references. ha!
Being from the midwest and living in prime farm country, I have to say that many of the comments in this forum are made out of paranoia due to lack of understanding of genetically modified seeds. These are not “chemically” boosted seeds or seeds that are filled with chemicals. They are seeds that are altered to help with issues that farmers face. The seeds can be made to produce a higher yield (produce more food per plant and per acre). They are made to grow in poor soil or low water environments. They are made to resist certain bugs that can damage or destroy the plants, and so on. Just because you get food from a farmers market does not make it genetically unaltered. Genetically altered materials are all around us. How about meds? Will you boycot these as well? I have a suggestion… the next time you or you family gets sick and becomes ill, figure out a way to use your heirloom seeds to create a remedy and a cure. Pretty much ALL the medicines you will ever take are genetically produced compounds. Do you think its a bad idea to make new meds to prevent or cure disease? Good luck with that…
You live on a farm land and your okay with what Monsanto is doing? Really?… whats your farm’s name?…. the Monsanto corporation like many pharmaceutical corporation care about profit… money doesn’t talk it yells and unfortunately we in this country have been conditioned to listen without asking questions those who question get dismissed as crazy and or paranoid… we didn’t always go to doctors and get meds lots of em can be home remedies…. but since we started the go see the doc trend we now have at least 75percent Americans under medication…. everytime yu take a med for a problem you aren’t fixing it your treating it eventually you’ll need a higher more powerful more expensive doce… I refuse to let a company tell me I have to use a seed that will grow a plant bugs wont even eat how is this safer for me? Profit yu cant heirloom seeds because you have to go out and buy more MANDATORY SEEDS where is the free market it sounds like a monopoly or at least thats the control they want…
So, a plant that is not affected by “weed killer” is a good thing? All that means is that you can load that plant with weed killers and it will continue to grow until it is harvested. Now you have food products that are loaded with weed killer. The plant is OK but what happens to the people who eat all of that weed killer? If we ate nothing but natural food, no weed killers and no steroids or antibiotics, remove all of the artificial colors and other preservatives and we would likely not need near as much other medicines to treat our children for learning disabilities, allergies and various other childhood maladies that barely existed when I was a child.
As a farmer, you should be more aware of what you are putting on our food when you grow it. Putting it on the plants is also putting it in the plant. We are stuck with consuming everything that should have killed that plant and we have not been “genetically modified” to tolerate it like the plants have.
Bottom line? God is perfectly capable of providing what we need if we turn to Him instead of some scientist or govt. agency.
Mike, you can increase the yield by using better farming techniques. Are you aware that most of your universities have a Department of Agriculture. They look at increasing a plants health, growth, yield, resistance to diseases and other such things. Where do you think most of the research that Monsanto quotes come from?
From these universities a plants genetic manipulation comes from preferred results of a plant rather than changing its DNA. For example, a pea has only seven chromosomes. By genetic manual manipulation you can get the biggest, roundest, greenest peas. I can live with that.
Corn was also subjected to the same manipulation to the item you see today. Why would you want to change its DNA for, because you can do it?
When you bring in medication into your argument you are mixing apples and oranges.
All you folks are assuming ‘Mike in SD’ lives ON, or OWNS, a farm!
All he said was, “Being from the midwest and living in prime farm country. . .” There are lots of people living in SD that DO NOT live on a farm, and know nearly nothing about farming! I don’t know what Mike’s knowledge of farming is – and, I’m willing to admit that my knowledge of farming is 50 years (or more!) out-of-date.
But, I do know that not everything the large chemical companies do to make seeds, and the resulting plants, more disease-resistant, more-insect resistant, and more PROFITABLE, are necessarily more healthful for you and me. The jury is still out on that one! Be careful and don’t believe everything your read!
“These are not “chemically” boosted seeds or seeds that are filled with chemicals. They are seeds that are altered to help with issues that farmers face.”
That’s only a half-truth, Mike. One of the issues farmers face is to have some seed from a good crop to plant for the next year’s crop — but Monsanto sabotages their seeds so that they grow sterile fruit.
Also, you don’t face the issue, “altered in what way?” Are you happy with the idea of using bacterial genes to modify plants which are of a different Kingdom (and even a different Domain) in the tree of life? Strictly speaking, these genes too are chemicals — molecules of a very different sort than the ones occurring naturally in the genome.
If I buy heirloom seeds from you, do I have to pay you every year I grow new plants with seeds from the previous year?
Or do I just need to thank the good Lord for putting those plants on earth to begin with?
Well, Vincent, if you *want* to send me money I won’t complain. :)
But, seriously, no. Of course not. Once you have the seeds in your hands, they are yours. Plant them, eat the veggies, store seeds for next year. Heck, SELL the seeds next year. They are yours to love forever.
Touche’ !
GMO foods need to be labeled so consumers can make their own choices as to what food to put in our bodies. Chemically altered food makes an unhealthy choice for humans who care about themselves and all other humans. We should have an American right to choose which foods to boy. I feel sorry for farmers caught in the middle of corporate companies like Monsanto, forcing them to buy their chemically altered seeds to survive in their chosen way of life. Government should support free will of the people, and make GMO labelling mandatory.
Barb, it is funny that in Germany, the Germans passed a law that their beer must be natural. There are no additives, special treatments or genetic manipulations allowed.
In Alaska, it is a State Law that when the fishing industries use their waters; they must purify the water before putting it back into nature. That is why the fishing industries dirty the water, purify it and put it back into nature so as to meet the Alaskan State law.
If the corporations had to identify GMO’s it would add to their costs. They would have to change their labeling, they would lose business because a lot of us wouldn’t buy GMO’s. Its all in the money.
Cliff A – There is also a law to protect our skies, called a clean air act law yet we are being sprayed by jet airliners to block our sun, but we have ozone laws against this?? Seems they are holding my comments back and I’m gonna tell on you boys. Best to let me in. The only thing that is ever deleted is the truth…….waiting to see what side these guys are really on. Don’t count on ya laws people. They obviously do not work well if it is against the law to spray aerosol chems into the ozone / atmosphere then why am I photographing just this nearly every day and for almost 2 years now? Why when I reported it do local officials not see it, report it or seem bothered by it? Interesting, must be something is very very wrong with our earth. Who you working for patriot headquarters??? Taking notes, so be careful, stay alert and Blessings to all.
We the people, never understand the power at our hands. If we all together stopped buying the product they would not survive. Eat alternatives until they wake up. The problem is we have no one, no organization that can pull the masses together to make this happen. Elections don’t work, Whoever has the most money wins. Any Ideas?
SOYLENT GREEN!!! We are just about there.
You would think eventually people would wake up and see what’s happening, that a lot of the food the eat is GMO. I tend to highly doubt that this will happen until the shit really hits the fan in some drastic way.
Just look at California. A year or so ago they had a proposal on the ballot to label foods that come from GMO as GMO. You would think this would pass easy in California. It did not pass
The money spent (I haven’t verified these numbers) to try and pass the proposal was 6 million. The money spent to defeat it was 46 million.
Maybe it will happen when many people come down with all kinds of ugly diseases that are induced by those GMO ‘foods’
Tine, it may take decades before anything can be proven. It may take even longer to do something about it, if it isn’t to late already.
Oh, they have come down with these diseases. They just haven’t put two and two together. They don’t realized its in their food. I can’t tell you how many people, still, say to me what’s GMO. They just think they have bad luck (if they even think at all).
The state of Washington recently fought a losing battle with I-522 which would require all foods to be labeled as to whether they are GMO. The only solution I can think of is to by local and organic as much as possible, grow your own as much as possible and continue to boycott all the crap sold in grocery stores unless it is local or organic. Last but not least support your local farmers markets.
When our country was founded we had men in office of character; now we have men & women who ARE characters! “American Betrayal” by Diana West traces the sinister elements of our traitorous officials going back 90 years. George Washington said ” Freedom Requires Constant Vigilance”& with the CFR/TC censorship of our news, not to mention the TV “PROGRAMMING” it is difficult to discern what’s right & wrong/true/false . If you don’t read, you will be deceived. Knowing your congress mans voting record will tell you if their words & actions match. The New American magazine is a bi-weekly that posts their voting records 4 x a year. We are “fat Cats” with all our materialistic goods but the “commies” are winning without firing a shot. Will YOU wake up for your children’s sake?
They say that cannabis has not had long term studies done on it in america and that’s why they are hesitant to make it legal , BUT it has been used medicinal for 5000 yrs. There have been no long term studies done on G.M.O BUT THEY ARE WILLING TO PASS LAWS to put this in our food.
Wake up America and learn what Sabotage means.
The big problem I have with this is that the “invention” to which Monsanto owns a patent is alive and aggressively seeking to propogate itself regardless of any property owner’s desire for it to do so (and then Monsanto has the audacity to claim ownership of those sullied crops as well, even though they did not originally start as GMO). I am OK with Monsanto having ownership as long as they likewise assume ownership of a class action lawsuit on behalf of anyone and any beast who consumes nutrients (i.e. everyone and all livestock). A few hundred trillion ought to do the trick. If you are going to have ownership of the product, you should also assume ownership of what that product does (and Monsanto does not).
Agreed. you can’t capitalize profits and socialize losses. So enough you’ll run out of other peoples money.
This is rudimentary logic. I suspect one needs to get to the head of the snake.
I would like more information from Tag concerning organic cow shares. I have recently subscribed to Mother Earth Magazine and plan on growing my own fruits and vegetables. I am sickened with what is going on with our government and their total disregard for us. Does anyone know of farmer shares in the eastern lower area of Michigan where I can glean more information? Frank, keep up the good work by spreading the word about Monsanto and their kind.
Hi jfred, check out a1organiclawns.com I am in s.e. Mi.
I wish there was a way to unite the people of our land to somehow put an end to this GMO travisty. Maybe we all need to pray a lot more and ask God to end this nitemare, at least show us how. When I think of my grandchildren having to live in this environment, it sickens me to the core.
Over 30 countries require imports from the US to be labeled and DO Not accept any GMO. Monsanto has taken over Washington and are the ones who make these decisions. If it was safe they would agree to label so the consumer would know what they are feeding their families. Speak up, make yourself heard. There are communties, working with the stores who are now NOT accepting GMO produce.
NINO, THE BIG PICTURE WHEN YOU STUDY IT, HAS MORE TO DO WITH POPULATION CONTROL. THE ILLUMINATI AS THEY ARE CALLED WANT ONE WORLD GOV’T,, CURRENCY, AND PEOPLE POPULATION CONTROL AND MONSANTO IS PART OF THAT..GENETICALLY MODIFIED FOOD IS ONLY A SMALL PART OF THEIR SCHEME. AS THEY CONTROL THE FOOD , THEY CONTROL THE PEOPLE AND THEIR HEALTH. WITH ALL THE TOXINS THEY PLACE BEFORE US, AND COMBINE THAT WITH ALL THE TOXIN CHEMICALS PLACED IN DRUGS OR SO CALLED MEDICINES..AND WALLAH YOU TOTALLY CONTROL THE MASSES, AND DISEASE PERPETUATES……
NINO
Exactly.
Don’t forget about “health care” to.
I would have to agree with all of you on this issue! The GMO industry is simply trying to take over our planet with their so called “Superior Crops.” I personally don’t trust these people and would rather have GMO production banned and enforced as a crime! Tampering with our hard working citizens food sources is very un-justified. We all need to unite and promote better ways of life. I foresee a “Native Roots Movement” evolving. Revolutions to hault the jet streams (chem. trails) produced by our own military/government. Their apparent accuse for these actions is that the jet streams reflect the incomming rays of the sun and contribute to fighting ‘Global Warming,” which is most defiently an embaresment to our country and to the rest of our planet (universe). These chem. trails have poisoned our natural resources and all of the life which inhabits them. It has made it very difficult for native life forms to sustain life in their natural env. This is all a Communist plot in my mind with Monsanto and GMO industries highly involved with this disgusting and evil movement. Look at Hawaii for example. Studies are revealing the chem trails have greatly negatively impacted this island, due to all of the pollution from chem. trails. We must spread this awareness to the rest of the world. The truth must be heard! Peace be the journey!
I am growing my own, where I can, & getting the rest from local organic producers…………I am past 60, healthy more so now that in earlier years, & scared for what my grandkids will have to deal with when I’m gone. Trying to build an organic legacy……………
Hi Cynthia, I am with you, trying to better the future. Check out a1organiclawns.com I can help people trying to grow without poisons.
I totally agree with the above comment. I wouldn’t trust any genetically altered anything. No wonder people are sick. We grow our own food and enjoy the harvest that God provides. After all, He put everything on this earth for man, not Monsanto or any other agency.
It is sad but true, Gloria, that in years past, 90% of our food in the USA came from the farm. Now it is reverse, 90% of our foods are processed and the other 10% comes from the farm. Of that 10% of food that comes from farm about 4 to 6% of it is GMOs, supplied by farm conglomerates like Monsanto.
Of process foods there are a lot of additives, preservatives, salt and sugars. It is my belief that these items have added to the American waistline.
Also because the higher ups in the government ARE the higher ups of Monsanto as well. It makes me sick (no pun intended).
Hi Ana, we in the organic world are only asking for a label NON GMO or GMO. It is a right to know what we eat & buy. If our food was safe / organic it would make more trade $. If we make more clean energy it will help the environment & the economy. Check out a1organiclawns.com
“WHATEVER HAPPENED TO DOING THINGS THE NATURAL WAY” Perfect question . I too, occasionally submit to fast food, usually the chicken joints but never the burger joints. But most times I ask myself “can’t I cook it better and cheaper myself?” And I usually do a drive by!
Over the past several years I have learned to read labels and understand them, planted my own garden and can eat all summer long on it, learned to can, freeze and de-hydrate so can also live all winter long. After many years of searching, purchased a cow on the cow share program and now have raw milk. This same farmer also raises, on grass, beef, pork, chickens, turkey, lamb and goats so all my meat comes from him also. Also has eggs from chickens that scratch in the dirt. He raises all of his own GMO free grains. I make my own noodles from these healthy eggs and churn my own butter from the abundance of cream. Ice Cream in the summer and whipped cream as a treat! People asked me all the time how I can afford to eat organically. By the time you put in the effort to raise your own, the money you save easily pays the slightly higher prices of meat and dairy. Also ask them how much their Dr. charges for an office call and how much they spend on big pharma every year. GOD forbid they calculate how much they spend if they have some kind of “Condition” I am almost 60 and haven’t seen an MD in over 20 years. I have never had an MRI, Cat scan, mammogram or any other “fashionable” test made to make my money exit my wallet. I am on no Meds and have no medical issues. 5′ 5″ and 120. My weight hasn’t fluctuate more than 20 lbs. since HS. And if I need medical advice, I seek it from a Dr. that understands natural healing. (Don’t need Obamacare! Sure can’t find in ANY of the BS that they would cover Alternative medicine.)
I think the saddest part of about where we are at in this madness is the generation growing up today does not have a clue how to take care of themselves. The children are being taught to bo to the FEMA camps. Unbelievable! And I think they are the generation that truly needs to learn some survival skills. But attacking our children is the plan, right?
What better way to lead lambs to slaughter than to make everything easy, convenient, and reinforce that which is done for them is for their own good. Whereby, the old ways and teachings by our elders fall by the roadside as the older generation slips into oblivion.
Cliff, what you say
Sounds like something close to what Socrates might have observed. History repeats itself. Particularly to us , who don’t know it. (The founders did)
Alas, the “mass is king,” and the media has evolved by current design to keep us ignorant.
And as Murphy law states’ ” Against all logic, there is no armor like ignorance.” Sad.