Lawmakers are quick on the draw when it comes to trying to take your money.
Knowing that their attempts to remove guns from the hands of law-abiding citizens are destined to fail, some of those on a crusade to make a mockery of the Second Amendment are looking for backdoor methods. Among them are lawmakers who seem to be uninterested in what their very own constituents think of their goals.
On Feb, 5, 2013, Democratic lawmakers proposed legislation stating that California gun owners should be required to purchase liability insurance to cover any damages or injuries that are caused by their weapons.
A number of other states have unsuccessfully proposed this same type of legislation, including Connecticut, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, New York and Pennsylvania. Some of the proposals have even included the requirement that gun buyers show proof of this insurance before they are allowed to purchase a weapon.
I’ve provided a link below to a story from Fox News that I think does a nice job of conveying the facts, including an opposition opinion.
Sam Paredes, the executive director of Gun Owners of California, spoke on behalf of gun owners everywhere when he responded to this proposed legislation by claiming that gun owners already act responsibly and that anyone who doesn’t can be sued for damages. Parede says that this type of legislation is just part of the ongoing effort to price gun owners out of existence.
How do you feel about this? Should gun owners have to acquire this type of insurance, in much the same way that drivers are required to do in most states? Or do you agree with Sam Paredes that this is merely an attempt to punish gun owners for the “crime” of legally owning a gun? I’d really like to hear from you about this controversial topic.
Because of the insane legislators that serve the people of California at the State and Federal level I find it difficult in to keep the State in the realm of the Republic. I will admit it is the fault of the liberal electorate that these politicians continue to attempt to drive home any number of bad laws.
Remember be careful what you wish for…..
The rest of the population should seriously consider leaving, if possible, and leave the snowflakes to their own design.
Read this, then tell me there will be a revolution.
http://www.alloutdoor.com/2016/08/31/democrats-will-never-confiscate-guns-instead-youll-hand/
I feel that those who do not own guns should have to purchase protection insurance in order to have police protect them
The Second Admenment is a RIGHT. Driving is a privalege. I don’t pay for my rights.
Actually, driving is a right. Under the bill of rights we have the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. The supreme court has ruled that freedom to travel is part of our right to liberty, and ruled in favor of the citizens who are challenging the legality of drivers licenses. There has not yet been a single supreme court ruling in favor of a states right to require a drivers license.
Hey Frank, they are just hyping up the media in order to trick people into thinking otherwise against the second amendment rights. I believe in unity, “united we stand, divided we fall” so, let’s all join in and become members with the, “NRA” and strengthen our chances of surviving this crazy idea that the elites have in store for us. People have to wake up and see what happened in the past to the people of germany and australia, etc. and learn not to make the same mistake in this so called free country of ours. Peace to all!
I live in New York,my guns are for home protection and hunting. over the past 25 years i have been involved in martial arts and for even longer knife fighting, While i know a knife is no match for a gun,one must change ones mental attitude and anticipate an attack,i carry no less than 3 knives at all times.,,ive trained in philipeno arts. Some of the best knife fighters in the worlld. Just Saying
I lived in Sacramento, Ca. from 1963 to 2003 and I moved back to my broke d–k state of Texas because California became a police state, a La police officer can enforce traffic law in another county such as Sacramento plus did you know that if you are having a drink in your back yard that you can go to jail for public intoxication and if you owned 3,000 acres of land and you had a home dead ass in the middle of that land and you where drinking and driving a Vehicle or a riding lawn mower on that property a police officer can come own your property and charge with a DWI and the reason I know is that me and my son – in-law were taken to jail and charged DUI & DWI we did 45 days in jail and over $5,000.00 IN FINES EACH PLUS ATTORNEY FEE’S that were over $3,000.00 each and that was our only arrest charge and then when we got out of jail the police stalked us for months and stopped us daily for traffic stops and when I was mowing my yard again they came on my property to see if I was drinking by making me take a breathalyzer test and when they were booking me & my son-in-law in jail they wanted to know if we owned any fire arms & how many I told them go f–k them self’s so they dress me GAY COLORED CLOTHES FOR THE GAY POPULATION SO PEOPLE WOULD THINK I WAS A GAY man. So yea California is a POLICE STATE .
I agree with Sam Paredes that this is merely an attempt to punish gun owners for the “crime” of legally owning
I find it a little more than repugnant that one would need liability insurance in order to exercise a God given constitutional right. If that be the case, then they aren’t rights, are they? The truth is that the domestic enemy types have become too brazen with their poison pens.
I am not a gun owner but I do believe that if someone wants to own guns it is their right. As for insuring them I think it should be up to them. Most gun owners that I know are not only responsible but safe guard their weapons. If insurance should become necessary it should be affordable to everyone that owns guns.
I think a lot of posters missed the point. If you own a gun, and that gun is stolen and used in a crime in which someone is injured, do you think the injured party is going to sue the bad guy who shot them? No, they’ll sue the person who’s likely to have something worth taking – YOU. There is precedent:
http://www.unionleader.com/article/20120709/NEWS03/707109997
Yes, the gun owner was vindicated, but I wonder how much he spent on lawyers?
Anyone who owns guns and doesn’t have a personal liability policy is a fool. Wait, I’ll go a step further. If you live in our current society and don’t have a personal liability policy, you’re a fool.
Here are my 2 cents. I am an attorney and former police officer. I also am a pilot. I was, and continue to be, a member of a certain well known US Government fraternal organization. I did have my backup weapon stolen and used in a crime. The police actually returned it to me post criminal case. Yes, unlike me, there are way to many lawyers out there just waiting to sue a gun owner. Being sued is an nightmare particularly here in California where they are disarming everyone. Without insurance, it can destroy you financially and otherwise. So, Be careful and safe out there. Above all, use your head.
When more unarmed responsible people have their heads cut off by terrorists in the US, as I predicted, maybe the thinking will change. But, I doubt it.
A conservative or real American is a liberal who was mugged the night before.
I believe in peace, love, and the 50 Cal just in case.
You miss the point.It is my right to own a firearm.If some one steals your car and has an accident are you liable NO! All most everyone has liability insurance on their home which would cover an accident on the property.heer in AZ if a perp is shot and killed or injured while engaging in illegal act there is no recourse for his family as in California ,That is one reason I left that police state,I was born and raised there and got my first firearm at the age of 9 years,I bought ammo at that age also and so did my friends and none of us ever shot or injured anyone .Calif.get rid of the Democrats
Politicians should be required to carry at least $1,000,000 in liability insurance against them passing stupid laws.
I think the obvious is being missed………FEAR…….the politicians (Our REPRESENTATIVES) are rightfully scared. They fearf a revolution and want the guns out of the hands of the people. Why do yuo think that the second amendment exists in the first place. This USED to be taught in our school system before the revisionists got their hands on History. Men who had been through war, Godly men who were not ashamed to go to prayer to resolve their differences, and they wanted to prevent the carnage that they had just witnessed first hand. Our constitution was assembled with great patience and carefully worded. Read it well and carefully, picture “where it came from”.
Well to all Those That want to control OUR (GUN RIGHTS ) NEEDS To Put There Left Hand on There Right Shoulder& Then Take There Right Hand & Pull Thier Head Out Of Thier BUTTS Because ALL LAW ABIDING CITZEN Knows RIGHT FROM WROGHT !!! IGNORANT Can Be Tought Out OF But stupidity You Our Just STUPID !!!.IF All GOD FEARING Patriots Hang together And Defend Our RIGHTS To Keep & Bear Arms We Need To Vote The Right PEOPLE Into Office. Pray& Vote The BIBLE Then All will Be Well.
Teddy, I am on your side, I own guns and I don’t want to buy insurance etc for just having them, it is a way to “price” us out of owning a gun in my humble opinion. True if my gun was stolen and used in a crime it could come back at me and bite me on my rear end, but my guns are locked up tight so I do not think that they would be of any use to a thief, but what do I know. Let’s just hope that there are not any more anti-gun laws passed in the Communist State of California!
By the way, I won’t buy gun insurance despite my recommendation. They haven’t lived until they have sued me. I will fight those chumps in a telephone booth.
It is just one more way to identify the good guys who own gun so they can come and take them.
A gun owners club in Canada set up such an insurance plan. An insurance company investigated the risk and offered $10,000 coverage for accidental harm. The first year premium was something like $50. There were no claims. The next year it dropped to $15. There were no claims. The claim pool was filled up and needed no further funding. The third year they charged $5 just to maintain the registration. Law abiding gun owners are very safe. The wackos and criminals are not going to take out such insurance. A mutual insurance pool would cover the insurance need at minimal cost due to the low risk and it protects you in case of an accident. The ultimate outcome would not be what the gun-grabbers seek. The only down side is that you would have to identify yourself as a gun owner, which might be the real intent behind the proposal.
Since everyone forgets that California did require every law abiding gun owner to register their guns, under the guise of “do the right thing” according to state law, then they came back several years later and confiscated all guns that were declared by the Communist state to be “assault weapons”., no money restitution given!
RSiling
Georgia
My right to own a firearm to defend myself, my family and property should not be infringed as some would have you believe.
There is always some lunatic out there that wants to take my rights and make it more expensive to protect my myself, family and property.
We all know and understand that a victim with his hand tied behind his back is defenseless against the criminal element. That my friend is what this new law is trying to accomplish.
What criminal is going to make sure they have insurance before committing a crime with a firearm?
Yet another “progressive” idea that favors criminals over law-abiding citizens, and stands to worsen the problem it purports to solve.
In this specific case, you make a point, Rev. However, these “misguided souls” aren’t the problem, the tyrannts are. Obama trying to take our guns is what fuels these people to come up with stuff like gun ins. Take away the root of the problem (who is doing it menacingly) so that it doesn’t branch to the morons who come up with idiocracies with a real intention to help
Randell, you are 100% correct. What most do not know is we have a police state or soft tyranny already in the USA. After, being in courts almost daily for some 25 years. this is a certainty. Come with me to court once and you will be convinced. The “Progressive Movement and the Statists began under Widrow Wilson (as I recall). It’s intended purpose is to destroy the Constitution of the United States. I one understands the US Supreme Courts decisions and it’s trend over the years, it becomes clear. What part of “the right of the PEOPLE to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed don’t they understand? You know “WE THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES…………………….Ï fear we are witnessing the fall of the United States and WE THE PEOPLE are doing it. How so very sad. The most potent, AND ONLY, weapon we have to stop this tyrannical trend is the BALLOT BOX. LETS GET WITH IT.
THE BALLOT BOX.
People should have insurance whether they own a gun or not. We have enough laws regarding guns, what we lack is enforcement of those laws. The only thing we need is for faster reporting of mental health issues to the proper authorities with daily updates to gun sellers so they aren’t selling guns to anyone who has seen a mental health professional. And when someone calls police to check on someone with a mental health problem-then the police should be required to search and confiscate any guns that person might have. (UCSB shooter case, etc)
Really, so after 24 years of serving my country… I come back to my civilian live, PTSD rears its ugly head. I go to a Psychologist to discuss my issues. And now you want my rights stripped from me? Wow! I can have a gun to protect your freedom but not to protect my family?
Great response! Thanks for your service!!
When my CCW permit is recognized in all the states and in DC, then I will consider buying the totally unnecessary “firearms insurance”. By the way, why should a CCW permit holder be restricted from carry in State and Federal buildings? I can understand private property owners being able to restrict access to people but govt buildings? Why?
Because they are afraid You realize what they are trying to do to you and are there to stop it.
When you get a CCW permit, you are literally giving them permission to regulate your second ammendment! The second ammendment is your right to bear arms. If you choose to carry those arms concealed or open, it is not up to any governmental agency to infringe upon that right. Carry a copy of the second ammendment with you insread of a CCW permit. I’ve carried in every state as I travel, and I dare ANY law enforcement officer to violate my right to bear arms. I am legally recognized as an expert on constitutional law, and I have never had a court case lost where I advised the defendent on his or her constitutional rights. Many of these cases were persons that gave up their drivers licenses and vehicle registrations, were cited for driving without a license and tag, and had their vehicles impounded. Every one of them were found not guilty and had their vehicles ordered to be returned without costs or fines because they were taken illegally. The only way the governmental agencies keep getting away with this sort of crap is because the greater majority of the public do not know their rights and go along with what it being done to them. Supreme court case cites are from the highest court in the nation. All lower courts must abide by their rulings. Do the research and present the proper case law, and the case is over. Period. I’ve taken down corrupt law enforcement agencies and magistrates presiding over cases as if they were judges, ect.
Thank you for your insights and experiences shared. In principle I agree with all you say. Having to go through the experience of being harassed by incorrect laws and uninformed LEOs is enough to make any law-abiding Constitution-loving individual crazy. Do you have a website for your services?
The Democratic legislators in CA wish to eliminate criminal gun violence by requiring responsible law-abiding gun owners to purchasing e insurance for the purpose of paying damages should such gun ownder do something damaging with their gun.
Such a proposal is absurd on multiple accounts.
1- Law abiding citizens, gun owners, who follow a rule to purchase liability insurance, are by their evident nature, NOT the type to ignore or violate laws and abuse the use of such a firearm.
2- Violent, insane persons who are inclined to commit acts of abusive, criminal, threatening terror with firearms, are not likely to seek to comply with a law requiring prior purchase of such insurance before they embark on their acts of firearm terror.
Criminals will not buy the insurance. Law abiding gun owners will, if they can afford it.
So the end impact of such an absurd rule, would be that:
1- responsible, law abiding gun owners would make insurance companies much richer
2- some responsible, law abiding gun owners would be unable to afford the insurance premiums, and therefore unable to go hunting or target practice
3- the sale of illegal guns, by cartels to criminals, would increase
Criminals do not follow the rules. This proposed legislation to require law abiding gun owners to purchase such insurance, would not reduce gun violence by any degree. It would just be an increased financial burden on law abiding citizens who own a gun.
It seems that only liberal-Democrats are the ones committing these mass murders. Look at the history of it. The Virginia Tech shooter, the Sandy Hook School shooter, this newest one in California. What did they all have in common? They were liberal-Democrats, and all of them were mentally disturbed.
It is no fluke that there are books out there calling Liberalism a serious mental disorder.
Liberal Democrats are the ones we should be worried about having guns. It’s time they need to register all Democrats and make them get gun insurance.
How many Democrats do you actually know? For your info that is simply something you fill out to get your voting registration. Many of us do not agree with ALL of the democratic party platforms, but neither do we agree with ALL of the Republican platforms. The problem with the world today is that people stereotype everyone rather than seeing them as individuals. Your view is filtered by your environment, your culture, your upbringing/education and the other person’s experience may not be the same as yours.
You mean like you lumping every person that has every seen a mental health professional into one sad lump?
Or at least Stupidity Insurance
AND WE WILL BE UNARMED.
SEE THE CANADIAN STORY ON TV RIGT NOW
Well they got control now. The EPA / Obama have closed the last lead smelting plant in the USA. Just to try to comply it would cost the Co. over $100 million. As you and I know you can never comply when EPA is after your butt. God Bless USA
My weapons are my insurance!
Two primary goals of any tyrant are to render the population defenseless and prevent private ownership of property. Look at where our country is on both.
Maybe this is an oversimplified view, but who would comply with this? Again, massive noncompliance is the answer.
Exactamente! If people can’t do what they want they won’t do much of anything.
if you by some mirical get a ccw in california, you have to have a $100,000.00 liability insurance, or the chief of police wn’t put his ass on the line for giving you carry permit. there afraid it will come back to them for issuing you a ccw. this is just another way to find gun owners and there guns. i have renters insurance and all i had to put down that i owned antique firearms and there value. no serial numbers ,or types of guns , or how many. just there value. my insurance does not give out info to any one . if the nazi’s want to know if i own a firearm, my insurance will not give them any info on me. they will need a federal warrant to try and get accesss to my records.
Or label You a terrorist and just do what they want.
Wake up people. Educate yourselves and research your represantatives. Do they stand and vote your beliefs? All of us are held accountable. This goes double for our government. We The People must stand for our rights or we will lose them. If this happens we will be a lost society pushed whichever way the wind blows. Big money, lobbyist, and greed are behind most of the chaos we face today. Take a stand and vote responsibly. Take our nation back from tyrany. This must be done or we all have a very limited future. I will never give up on God nor my freedoms. I hope there are a lot of folks out ther that feel the same.
You are not alone sir! To God be the glory! I thank him for this great nation! We must stand in the face of tyranny and fight with ballots or bullets !!! This land did not come free and cannot stay free with out the blood of tyrants!
This is just another ploy to get all gun owners names so the goons from the Government know where to go and confiscate OUR guns! If these fools in Government can’t get the “universal background check” through, they will devise up a “new” plan to find out where the guns are for easy confiscation.
Cliff,
This is true. I just had a friend getting home insurance and the insurer wanted to know all the serial numbers and type of guns she had in the home.
I have news for YOU! They got ALL OUR NAMES! I have a good friend in a local large gun shop.He has to show the ATF.His log book all the time with every gun owners name in it that they buy sell or trade with!!! On Demand! Book by law has to have your social , phone, and address! That’s the rules the the gun shops have to play by for the FEDS.If you keep all your guns in one place expect them to be confiscated! ! FACT! You better get a grip America Barry and his minions want this great land to be a 3rd world toilet! MULAN LABE!
I have never bought a weapon where I have had to show identification or fill out forms. If you research any country where guns were banned then confiscated, it all started with creating paper trails of gun ownership. I buy guns used, from private parties. Or I build them myself in my machine shop. It is 100% legal to build your own firearm for your own personal use. If you don’t have a machine shop, look into 80% receivers. You can complete most of those with a drill press or hand drill. The rest of the parts can be bought without paperwork.
Eventually most people will finally fig it out. It is always about money. Have you heard or attorneys. Who passes the laws, attorneys. A have abortion, not for reproductive rights. The abortion industry is billions. Gay marriage, who makes money off the divorces, attorneys. So who makes money off of insurance policies. Always ask who is making the money and you will have your answer.
I don’t agree that gun owners should buy gun insurance what about axes ,chain saws kitchen knives etc you get the messge
Let’s not forget the most used murder weapon in the usa…..baseball bat!!! Lot more people murdered by it than a gun here in our nation! When will they start issuing some permits for that? How many lives have been lost and not one saftey feature installed or even safe handling courses mandated!! When will the madness end!!
Actually…that’s not true. For the last decade or so gun homicides have been around 9,000/yr while blunt object homicides (which includes baseball bats, hammers and other smashing-in items) are around 500/yr. Not even close. More people are strangled or kicked to death than are bludgeoned.
Actually I think more people are killed by cars, trucks, etc. every year. Let’s forbid the use of all vehicles. That way we can keep our guns. This is getting stupid.
If any item is involved in the commitment of a crime there is an exclusion on all insurance contracts for the elimination of coverage for crime. So this approach has no validation to exist .
No insurance contract will cover the cause of loss for crime.
Thomas Jefferson said ” And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure. The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first. I am not a friend to a very energetic government. It is always oppressive. I think myself that we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government. The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it. ”
Perhaps one of those times is NOW. Semper Fi!
Rivahmich, you have offered the number-one best argument to derail any further legislation that would further encroach upon constitutionally protected rights of the people. Please post the Jefferson source quoted.
Amen and thank you for bringing this up:)
i hope there are no obama lovers and voters out there bitching about their hero trying to take up all guns,you were warned. next time vote the party of common sense and decency.
Brad tell me which party you are talking about? as I see it both parties are as corrupt as sin. Both parties have voted to remove our rights -our wealth- our freedoms and mostly our pursuit of happiness. Just ask the republirats how we managed to TRIPLE the tax code in less than 10 years. Why they vote for bills they don’t even read? ( obummer don’t care) Or even why they supported the Patriot act? We need a new government not vote for the same old crap.
Amen Thom D … they’re all a brood of vipers!
yes i voted for omama but i also voted for ro0nny raygun i always vote for the people i think this country needs at the time however i will not and at the time have not voted for or supported anytype of gun controll or patriot comedy act government officials ie if you wnt my guns try too take them
I recall several years ago a bumper sticker on a car, obviously driven by a feminazi, that said “If you are against abortion, then don’t have one”. well, I got one for you along those same lines. “If you are against gun ownership, then don’t buy one”
So why dont we pass a law that requires liberals buy insurance for their first ammendment rights?
I think law makers should stay out of people’s pocketbooks. it isnt right for them to make people pay over and over and….well you get the idea….double taxation is included in the Comstitution, yet the people have let it happen…over and over again. this has to stop!
go to you tube search MHFM1 go to is the world about to end? The apocalypse explained by bro. Peter Dimond only. This is not a joke this is the real thing.
I have seen that, have a couple of copies of it, even the new updated version. Yes, it is eye-opening, and i recommend it , too
What will it be next,insurance on the knife i carry,what about that razor knife and 10″ screw driver that i carry in the tool box in my truck.
People are just sue happy!
I’ve always been for insuring the driver and not the car also. I own 2 vehicles and I can’t drive both of them at the same time yet, I have to pay insurance on both vehicles. The biggest problem with healthcare is the same problem with most of this broken country; the insurance companies are involved and have been writing laws for themselves for so long now, it’s just a given. No one needs insurance for anything anymore. In the beginning, insurance companies were formed to “asume risk”. They no longer asume any risk at all. People in CA own weapons to protect themselves from other’s who have weapons. Here out in the country, we use our rifles for bringing food to the table. If people in the city don’t want guns then do what they used to do; check their guns in at the sheriff’s dept.. I’ll bet the gang bangers won’t. The law has to be “obtainable” for all and not just the few i.e. insurance companies.
Insurance on the cars is to cover damage to the cars. Insurance on you is to cover the liability to others.
Instead of publishing gun owners address to the public how about the liberals address instead….maybe then they’ll get the picture…,
Awesome suggestion!
better yet publish known whereabouts of criminalls let karma take it from there
This is rediculous. I am so tired of the minority running the country.
Shapespear was right; first we kill all of the attorneys.
Do not vote for any lawyers period ! They are by nature and education going to fight and bicker with each other and try to pass anything to make a name for themselves. Vote for business men and retired military, these have real world experience. If a lawyer is needed one can be hired and/or fired ! Then you will see some progress in a positive direction. Semper Fi
This is rediculous and should be stopped immediately!!!!!!!! The nerve of some people… Will they ever stop??????????
People’s views on this one way or the other do not matter.. any law,regulation,etc. with the purpose of restricting the ownership or carrying of any weapon is a violation of the Constitution. which is the supreme law of the land.. and any official that proposes, supports or votes for such is in violation of their sworn duty to uphold and defend the Constitution. all such persons should be required to vacate their positions including all benefits thereof.
I think I have heard it all. We live in a world gone mad! It is obvious that this ploy is just another
attempt to attack people that own guns, and make it as hard as possible for 2nd Amendment rights.
People such as these in California are potential tyrants in the making.
No California is full of fruits and nuts.
Then we need to require the same of any governmental agency, person, or persons of the government, police, etc. Opening fire on an almost dead Russian hiding in a vintage boat after the Boston Bombings would be a good place to start. These idiots knew he was in there after visually checking on him, saw he was in no shape to be a threat, retreated like a bunch of scurrying rats, and blew this guy’s boat apart. Don’t know how they missed the kid unless that was the plan. Heard several reports of officers high-powered assault rounds hitting apartments, homes, vehicles, etc, narrowly missing people. Had we normal citizens done that, we’d be locked up for good. No, they were given a hero’s escort for denying the Boston’s citizen’s 4th amendment rights in the name of citizen’s safety. However, we’re just allowing this to happen. Tell me one thing. How was a press conference organized less than 45 minutes after the ‘capture’ of the Russian. All was well organized and all the people and equipment for the conference just happened to be there in a few moment’s notice. The whole thing was staged!!! And, our government was laughing at our stupidity as we cheered law enforcement for finding and capturing a ‘terrorist.’ Don’tcha think it’s kinda strange that with the Intell from the NSA, Homeland Security, etc., they couldn’t see this coming? If we haven’t woken up yet that there will soon be troops foreign and domestic on our streets arresting us for no reason, then we deserve what we get. Me? I’ll make damn sure I take as many with me as I can before they cut me to ribbons with enough ordnance to tenderize ten elephants.
Like “others” trying to ban tobacco use = “tax it out of existence”. How is a family that hunts for food, supposed to get $25,000 insurance on each gun ? I’m also assuming that there are a couple used for varmint or small game – or just plinking. THOES PEOPLE do not need insurance because they usually have a clear view/sight of the target in question. Other than .22 and some 9mm ammo, it’s usually A LOT cheaper to reload.
Law-Makers are becoming the “real criminal” in today’s world. I’m not against any individual who made a mistake in life, made a bad decision, & got convicted of whatever crime. He or she still has a constitutional right to bear-a-firearm under the U.S. Const. (And, in most States). The constitution doesn’t say, “If you are, or were, convicted of a crime, you can no longer bear-a-firearm.” THE CONSTITUTION(S) HAVE NOT BEEN CHANGED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And, any law that is in-consistent with the Constitution(s), IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL!!!!!!!!! If an individual has paid his or her dues to the public, & has become a law-abiding citizen, they too have the CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO BEAR-ARMS. This is the “Power 4 Patriots” to come forward for all. No one is better than anyone else. There is a big difference between an individual who makes a bad decision (commits a criminal act) and one who is a real criminal (one who thinks nothing but criminal ways to act). You either stick-up for the Constitutional Rights, as written, or you water it down, and go along with the laws that are in-consistent with the Constitutional Rights; which, to me, is treason against our Constitutional Rights to Bear-Arms, to protect one’s self, one’s family, to pursue life, liberty, property, and happiness. If you’re convicted (for whatever), you can NO LONGER have or own a firearm, but, wait-a-minute, we’ll let you have a ROCK, PEN, KNIFE, CLUB, or whatever to protect your life, liberty, property, etc. To all you who think you’re better than anyone else, you just remember this, you’re only a law-abiding citizen until your own government, the real criminals, take you down as a criminal. THE PATRIOT ACT, took your Constitutional Rights Away because your Government is working toward ONE-WORLD GOVERNMENT.
Sounds like a bunch of liberals to me. They need to stick to getting gay married and killing babies. After all a 20 week old embryo inside a mother’s belly is a person. My question is who is defending these embryos that are 20 weeks old inside thier mother’s belly defenseless to the world is outside?
I agree with Sam! We are headed down a slippery slope with all of the back door legislation, that’s going on. I believe that the “Progressive Left” will do anything to get where they want to go. If you keep chiseling away at the “Base” of a great tree
( our Constitution and The Bill of Rights ) you eventually distroy that foundation and the tree falls over and dies! We must not let them turn events up side down and punish the honest and law abiding gun owners.
Doesn’t the Obama care we are paying for cover that
They can’t make 1/2 of their people get licenses to drive. What makes you think that people will get gun insurance. If they do, then I presume that the state is condoning their ownership and use of guns by this legislation.
AW COME ON! this is rediculous to the extreme. I have already seen an individual chased to his home by bad guys with his grandchildren on board and as they slowed, turned around, and came back with a deer rifle pointed at him he opened fire over the top of their truck as he his standing in his own yard with his grandchildren flat on the ground . they took off and when the first deputy arrived he was going to arrest the homeowner for breaking the law by shooting over a occuppied vehicle. the only thing that saved the landowner was a second deputy who came on the scene and diffussed the situation with the first deputy because the bad guys are carreer criminals. but he also advised the home owner , nicely, that he had broken the law and they left. and this is in eastern north carolina. NOW THEY WANT US TO CARRY INSURANCE !
Ok, then the criminals should be forced to buy insurance for all the damage they do.
As I said before this is not like owning a car. Owning a car and driving is a Privilege. Owning a firearm is a right! Just like the affordable health care act can not force consumers to purchase a product neither can this! Of course, it is really true, the pen is mightier than the sword in a society of sheeple.
The “affordable Health Care Act” is NOT that affordable, and it’s government controlled > by the IRS]. WHY di I NEED to buy a government medical policy ? I go to the VA, yet I may get “fined” for not buying a government program…………
Since I can’t even find ammo for my 9mm, what point would it be to have insurance? Since I could only hit someone over the head with my weapon at the moment, I would rather use one of my aluminum Easton bats instead. (A little more range) With the scarcity of ammunition available, it seems that we have already been rendered disarmed, and the addition of insurance premiums to that would be unnecessary and costly. Are smokers going to have to buy insurance for second hand smoke too?
Hush! They might hear you and get a bright idea!
Who would ever provide this kind of insurance and what would they insure?
Gun insurance is unnecessary. This is just another thinly veiled grab and dash attempt by liberals whose real fear is that honest, decent citizens may one day revolt against their attempts to reinvent this country as a communist dictatorship. Conservatives across California need to set aside their individual parties and start voting for conservatives regardless of affiliation. Do some research BRFORE going to the polls, and stop voting these idiots into office.
Steph, Thanks for the insight and understanding the real issues. Not many women are so engaged however they need to be! We need all you ladies to help us protect ourselves and this country from the “progressive” movement. I know many that talk about Europe and how we should follow suite. I tell them we removed ourselves from that ideology in 1776 why would we go backwards, Right? Of course our schools keep feeding our kids democracy in order to kill the “republic”.
Most of these “idiots” are well-intentioned, nice people who simply cannot conceive of the danger that will result from their actions.
We need to be vigilant yes; but polarizing no.
Love your “idiot” neighbor and continue to explain, enlighten and defend against their misguided efforts to encroach upon our Constutional rights.
That is really the only chance we have for them to listen; otherwise both sides stop trying to work together and we get gridlock … sound familiar?