Folding Gun Looks Like a Cellphone
You’ve heard of the Concealed Carry Permit, but gun owners might not have to “conceal” their weapon of choice anymore. That’s because they are working on a gun that hides in plain sight.
It was developed by a company in Minnesota called Ideal Conceal, and it’s a double-barreled handgun that folds up into a rectangular shape that looks like a cellphone when in its closed and locked position.
Obviously the police are not too crazy about it because someone they have their eye on could pull out what looks like a cellphone but is really a gun.
Bill Johnson, executive director and general counsel for the National Association of Police Organizations, said the concept of a disguised weapon is a cause for concern for police.
As of this writing, the product is still in the development stage, and the estimated price is just under $400. The .380-caliber derringer uses a hammerless firing system and holds two bullets.
Even if the folding gun is kept in plain sight, such as attached to someone’s belt, it might require a Concealed Carry Permit. The makers of the folding gun are urging eventual users to check their state and local laws on the matter.
Most of these comments are absolute BS. If not actually anti-gun advocates they are really badly ill-adivsed, for the following g reasons:
1. Conealed weapons regardless of size can be hidden anywhere on the body regardless of CCpermits.
2. I have a modern derringer I can hide in my hand. It’s 50 years old.
3. Illegal use of a concealed weapon has nothing to do with size.
4. CC of a normal size handgun is a pain in the butt and generally uncomfortable.
5. Considering the above, it is much easier to draw that credit card to protect myself or someone getting attacked.
As a designer, in general, The design of that pistol is brilliant and I hope he succeeds
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Blah-Blah-Blah. What you ALL completely (most) just don’t get… humans are idiots. Most anyway. SOME are responsible. But if you are too STUPID to realize that when ANY human gains power, or can force others to believe or comply by a law or with a penalty if they don’t it doesn’t matter what type of gun, explosive or EVIL any psycho wants to commit. Ban everything and some human will find a way to obtain, create or use it… This argument is older than dirt and a complete waste of time & energy. (Yes even my response is). So pass all the laws, regs or fear you’d care too… it does NOT matter. I mean seriously, if cops, politicians and celebrities, can get away with crimes, do you REALLY think the lunatic will comply? Oh, and if cops are “scared” change professions…. that’s the LAMEST argument I’ve ever heard..
OTGguy made a very valid point. I’m pro-gun too but this should not even be made, much less made available! I’m also remembering the train explosions in Spain during busy commuter times that were triggered by terrorists using cell-phones to detonate the explosives.
I am pro-gun but there are guns that should not be on the market. They can be too easily copied and put available to the criminals. I wouldn’t mind having one for myself, but wouldn’t want criminals or terrorists to have them. They have the ability to sneak into places and kill. this weapon would be detrimental to law inforcement.
The only people wanting this are the ones I do not want having any weapon of any kind!
There will always be someone out there that will build or make a better mouse trap. I’ve seen guns made to look like pens; so why not made to look like a cell phone. The reason is that cops don’t like inventions that can cost them or someone their lives, do you blame them? I don’t.
I really do care if they make an invisible gun that fits inside your wallet. What I am concern with is the distribution of these and any other weapons. That is to say we should be more concern with who is allowed to get such a weapon. We need requirements to be eligible to possess such a weapon. For example: a person must pass a weapons qualification test and must renew it every 2 years. This will authorize said person to handle a weapon responsible and be held accountable. They must undergo a deep background check. Then they must have a special permit to have such a weapon, renewed every 5 years. If the person loses or sells this special weapon the owner must make the proper registration and claim with the proper authorities and/or change of ownership.
This way people will get to exercise their 2nd Amendment Rights and it will keep high power and unusual weapons out of the hands of those that don’t deserve them. This is my opinion.
Too dangerous for the thugs to carry this kind of weapon that looks like a cell phone. They don’t need any more help in robbing, raping and killing people than they have now. Don’t give them an extra advantage in a disguised weapon!
if this DON’T look like a cheep trick on concealed carry to get more people on the side of government confiscation of real weapons?? that don’t even look real, but sure will be one more for gun CONTROLL
even though I don’t agree with all out gun control, one must slow down to think of just how bad this idea is. Lets just say it takes off, and say 200,000 are sold. Or even 100,000. Just how will affect the mandated actions of police? Now keep in mind I am not talking about what any department may mandate, I am thinking of the personal mandate of every officer that wants to go home at the end of the day. Their jobs are hard enough, we have no right to force on them, or anyone,the added threat this kind of thing inherently brings. Fire arms are a given right in our constitution, yet as with all things, commonsense must be the guiding factor. There is no practical use for a weapon like this. In my mind it would be nothing more than a company not thinking a head, to make a buck.
I am pro gun and strongly defend our second ammendent, this gun is however scarey as too easy for the WRONG BAD PERSON to have. As everyone has noses on their phones would be dangerous and risky for people in general. Not worried about law abiding americans.
Thanks for commenting, Sheila. Lots of us share your concern about this.
I agree with the statement made earlier.. It stinks of government involvement in an attempt to trick the “sheep” in this country into believing criminals created this weapon and the law abiding citizens that carry “real” firearms legally approve of the crap like this! If that idiotic gun is produced I promise you every street corner drug dealer will have one inside 6 months!! Even worse the tragedies that stem from the over worked and under paid
law enforcement officers that are forced to shoot the people that when told to “DROP IT” or take your hands out of your pockets slowly and for whatever reason they decide to pull out their cell phones and end up shot will rise dramatically! Sadly I also fear that the already shockingly high number of officers that have been shot and or killed in the line of duty since the main stream media turn against them in the name of ratings!! Siding with groups that riot,loot and burn down local businesses whenever they decide an officer unjust in their actions! Worst part is when the officer is cleared of any wrongdoing the main stream media still doesn’t stand up for our law enforcement they stand behind the group that has destroyed entire neighborhoods?? Sure… Yea… this cell phone gun is not intended to be used against the second amendment and law enforcement… God Bless America and God help us!!! My apologies for the length of my comment stupidity just ticks me off!!
Dear Frank,
This kind of weapon is definitely “COOL” for all those “wannabe James Bond 007 types” out there!
It might (and I only say might) have a defensive value for deep cover/undercover cops and other covert professionals.
That being said, you know I don’t want to thwart “free enterprise” if a company wants to produce it, but such a weapon should only be made available to governmental agencies, issued with great care and strict protocol protection from loss and falling into the wrong hands!!!
A long time ago, there was an ink pen that doubled as a .22 Mag. single shot, but it was only available as a “backup weapon” for LEO’s and it had to be purchased through an police agency only. I carried one for two decades, but had to surrender it when I retired.
A few years ago I had the chance to help evaluate a 9mm mini- sub-machine gun that “covertly” looked like a laptop compute, with a built-in laser sight. It could be unfolded and ready for action in approx. 15 seconds … with lots of practice! Again, this exotic weapon was designated and sold as a special services weapon ONLY, as this “cell-phone gun” should be!!!!!
Just because you can invent something, does not mean it should be made available to “John Q. Citizen!”
God Bless One and All,
Orrin
Cops have already killed people because they supposedly thought that their cell phone was a gun. How does this killing gadget improve our world?
The CEO of this company is a Kirk Kjellberg….and the company is Ideal Concealment….
Be aware of this company and the “CEO” who operates it…
Don’t buy a thing this company produces! But at this time I think this is only project in the works….
We have to take action and shut this company down before they even get a chance to finish the design and production stages….no reason for this “gun” at all because there are plenty of sub compact concealable guns already on the market…
This is clearly targeted at the non experienced gun user who will think it’s novel and cool…far from it….at least if it makes it to the market somebody will shoot themselves in the butt and then sue the company…good riddance for being foolish and buying such a idiotic “gun”….
I emailed the company and the response was to send my info so their lawyer could contact me as they are doing everything legally.
Legality is not the issue but the idiocy of the whole thing.
It stinks of a gov op to produce these guns, get them in the hands of criminals and then say “see, now they’re making guns that look like cell phones” and expedite the destruction of the 2nd Amendment.
Everyone needs to spread the word so if this “gun” makes it to the market sales will be dismal and the company will go out of business….as of now we still have some power left and boycotting a product and/or company is something we can do…
And if there are any FFL dealers out there that read this don’t buy these and put them in your display cases….this is an atrocity or really it stinks of a gov funded program to strip away our 2nd Amendment rights…
Remember Fast and Furious?…would surprise me at allif this turns out to be gov op…..
I think this is a bad idea, as even toy guns or water pistols have got people shot. It will be one more thing to possibly trick police into hasty actions with bad results. On the other hand, some prepping must be necessary before it can shoot, unlike pulling a loaded, cocked, and ready to fire pistol from the holster or waistband.
I am totally against anyone carrying a gun that looks like a cell phone. We have enough killings going on now without making it easier for the bad guys. Plus even catching the curiosity of the good guys. What’s America coming to??
A folding/break-down gun is convenient such as the Mossburg JIC and the Henry Arms AR7….but to make it look like a common everyday item like a cellphone is stupid, ludicrious and I would agree with a ban on such disguised guns even though I am pro 2nd amendment,,,this will just give the higher ups more incentive to ban all guns expeditiously…this compny should be sued and shut down ASAP before they are responsible for eliminating everyone’s right to bear arms……I’m going to call this company and tell them to cease and desist immediately in the development of this gun and quit being stupid….!!!!!! Everyone else should call them and do the same…
Just another excuse for a bad cop to shoot a suspect. All you need is just a phone in your hand now.
Good point too…I didn’t even think of this angle…..any cop who sees this gun and then sees someone pull out a cell phone to take a picture, then bang and another innocent person shot down with no police liability at all….Thanks Chris, great point!