Now even our contacts aren’t safe from NSA spying.
Anyone who thinks we’ve “heard it all” when it comes to the National Security Agency (NSA) spying on us hasn’t been paying attention. There’s plenty more to learn about this blatant overreach of government power. As the leaks continue, we’ll learn more and more about how our government has been wasting incredible amounts of time and money spying on innocent people who just want to live their lives in peace.
The latest revelation, this time from the Washington Post, is that the NSA has been collecting hundreds of millions of contact lists from personal email and instant messaging accounts worldwide – including those of many Americans. That way, if they decide you are a security risk because, for example, you have conservative viewpoints, they can go after all your contacts as well.
Unable to deny what is obviously true, the NSA did what it usually does in these circumstances…telling Americans that they have nothing to worry about. A statement from the agency said that it is focusing on “discovering and developing intelligence about valid foreign intelligence targets like terrorists, human traffickers and drug smugglers.”
“We are not interested in personal information about ordinary Americans,” the statement continued. “Moreover, we operate in accordance with rules approved by either the Attorney General or the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, as appropriate, designed to minimize the acquisition, use, and dissemination of any such information.”
Right. And the IRS and EPA are not interested in making the lives of conservatives miserable. And the Department of Justice is not collecting the phone records of journalists. And the Department of Homeland Security is buying up millions of bullets purely for target practice. And the countless drones in the sky are not spying on us. And nobody’s trying to take away our right to own guns. Sure, whatever you say, guys.
How do you feel about NSA spying? Do you think it’s necessary for our national security, or do you think it’s an overreach that serves to undermine the relationship between the government and U.S. citizens? Please chime in with your thoughts.
I spend too much time listening to other people talking that does not really sound good as too many do not make good sense to me! I spent 22 years in the military serving three Wars with combat and I do not think I will try to fight my Government as I know the Government can destroy anyone trying to fight against them. I do not want to fight against an Army Apache gunner shooting at me or my house! I believe my military would not allow anyone hurting our people or the military would stop the Government from killing citizens without good reasons! I remember Misouri a year ago with citizens were looting & burning businesses and the Military and Police did not try to kill bad people as the Government wanted more honesty and information correctly before they would hurt our citizens1 I guess I just BELIEVE in my Country, and my Government trying to do the best way to act! Our World today is different than 50 years ago? Even our people are different against the people! 48% do not work to survive for food and housing? Familys are different because females do not want to be Mothers as they used to as they enjoy working for money instead of marrying & taking care of children or husbands! Or Churches are loosing people as the Ten Commandments are as not following as 50 years ago. Our World is different and our Government, is dealing with Terrorists that hate us, our wars are costly with other countries fighting, our money is in debt, our military was 15,000 pilots too low than flying our planes which is needed to fight any war if we want to win! Our Electrical Grid is in danger which can kill our selves with fighting each other for food & water. I try to protect my family with the needs to survive. I worry about North Korea, China, & Russia every day! If President Trump starts another war, we will be broke from money to try to keep us living ok! Most of your opinions make me think too many of you are too radical in statements and I am scared of your statements like against another opinion from “namrats” which sounded good to me! Please be more protective for yourself instead of against our Government! We may have a few nut cases in the Government, but some of your opinions make me think some of you are nuts too> By the way, I am a Ph.D as a Clinical Psychologist with my opinions too! Thank you! Dr Dre
HOW DO I FEEL ABOUT IT?
I KNOW IT IS NOTHING BUT TREASON.
THESE ARE ALL CRIMINALS THAT ARE RUNNING ROUGH SHOD OVER THE PEOPLE AND HELL BENT TO DO THE BIDING OF THE MOST VEHEMENT AND DISGUSTING HATERS OF WHITE/ANGLO/AMERICAN/GOD FEARING PERSONS.
THEY ARE DEMONS IN THE FLESH AND WILL STOP AT NOTHING TO RECEIVE THEIR REWARD OF ETERNAL BURNING IN THE END.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysqXNRdZ4V8
Do you need extra hands to help in meeting the need. I live in an RV and can easily move to where is needed.
With massive amounts of data comes massive responsibility. The question could be ask since they possess data concerning all the crimes in at least the last 5 years there shouldn’t be any unsolved crimes, Any scam, virus, break in etc the NSA has the data of who is responsible. Therefore because the criminals haven’t been brought to justice it stands that the feral government is either an accomplice or 100% incompetent.
Well, it’s true. The government has been needing to be reined in for a long time, not just recently. I’ve known since the 60’s, but it was even before then. Just check some real history (as opposed to the approved versions.)
Our government is too big and totally out of control. They have forgotten they are supposed to be working for us not against us.
Time for Operation Thunder Storm to begin.
Don’t know what it is, but, I’m in.
If you want more in depth reporting on the NSA’s lack of accountability and blatantly unconstitutional programs, then try The Intercept, where Glenn Greenwald, Jeremy Scahill, Laura Poitras, Peter Maass, and many other talented investigative reporters are dutifly exposing the lies of the multinational corporately controlled governments who are destroying this planet with their runaway capitalism and perpetual war. Wake up people.
I think the Federal Government has gone too far. The next thin you know they will tattoo a number on new born babies just like Hitler did to the Jews no matter what age.
I thought the President, Vice-President and every congress person took an oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States. So far, the president and many others have failed miserabilly and it is a fact, but since the pres. tells the most of the news networks what they can and cannot say, he should be impeached. If that is not an offense, the impeach him on the grounds that he and the IRS discriminated against making some groups Tax Exempt. They got Nixon on that one.
What do you think about a justice system run by a buddy system, what this is that the police are in the lawyers pockets, the judges protect the police , the attorney protect them also, I had the police enter into my house without a search warrant, because I had to shoot a warning shot at someone that entered my house to kill me. I didn’t shoot him, just a shot to get him out of my house, he goes a mile from my house and calls the police, he’s a fellon, a known meth head meth seller, a meth cook. The police entered my house supposedly to get my side of the story for their report, I let them in asking if they had an arrest warrant and was told no, I then ask to call my attorney, they said they weren’t there to arrest me, the man had told them he pushed me down first and all they needed was my side of the story. So I let them in. Just before leaving my house the police stated that there was one more thing they needed to discuss with me, the man had told them that I had a grow room in my basement and that they needed to go downstairs to see for themselves, there was a grow room down there but it was being destroyed. The lights had been turned off and the water supply had been shut off for over a month and a half. I fell down my basement steps and discovered the grow room down there, put in by two people that were doing remodeling work for me, this was the second time I had fallen down my basement stairs. The first time I knocked myself out for over Four hours and broke four ribs, my clavicle, my colar bone and shattered my rotorycup. I was in the hospital for seven days. The second time I didn’t knock myself out and was able to see what was going on in my basement. The pot was new plants, about eight inches tall, they were dead when the police came. I wasn’t arrested, I wasn’t given a ticket nor did the police leave a list of anything they took. They stole 47 weapons from me. For two months straight I called the police property room to see what it would take to get my guns back, eight of those guns were left to me by my Grandfather, and my Father. I was told for two months that my guns were not in the property room, nothing in the property room had my name on it. The officer in charge thought I had lost my mind. So I waited another month and went to a gun store and passed an F.B.I. Background search and was able to purchase another weapon. Now because I wouldn’t let the issue just die in being charged with cultivating pot. They want to give me four years without the possibility of probation. Remember, the police didn’t arrest me, they didn’t give me a ticket nor did they leave a list of anything removed from my house. How can I defend myself when without a list I don’t even know what the police took from my house.
The only way to protect yourself these days is by installing hidden cameras and in plain view cameras. I would use the plain view camera’s as a deterrent. I would also use hidden ones in case they came back and confiscated the recording and the equipment. (Because they wouldn’t want to be caught on a video recording Lying and breaking the Law. I would also make sure there is a way to transmit the recordings to a secure location . (I.e. : A secure server off your property and with Military encryption. I recommend that you either subscribe to it or build it yourself.) I know hindsight is 20/20. BE PREPARED.
WHEN I SEE A DOCUMENTARY 0N HITLER OR STALIN, I SEE A COMPARISON TO THE POTUS WE HAVE NOW.
I have to agree with what Shara said in her last two comments. The president’s job was to keep the Illuminati happy and the population under control. If everyone would open the eyes and ears, they would be astonished to see what is really going on. Gas prices dropping just before Christmas, to a record low. All the dealings behind closed doors with the most powerful families in the world, basically dictating how world policy will play out, and who will be a player, and who won’t be , won’t be around long either. this crap has been going on since the time of man, and as it continues to grow with time, the population will be controlled by food shortages, electrical blackouts, you name it. All we can do is pray that we will overcome the evil in the world, and develop a true and uncorrupt govt.
Look up aristocracy in europe and you’ll see it’s alive and flourishing with many of the wealthiest “houses” on the planet. There are some individuals not of the peerage with tens of billions, but when you look at the collective wealth in the aristocratic families, all of whom are related, those individual billionaires pale in comparison.
About a month ago, I noticed that my computer was acting funny. It was slow to start up, the cursor was moving around with out any input from me. I immediately took the computer off the phone line at the router. I was afraid that I had picked up a virus. I called a friend of mine that knows all about the computer. He was in the Army with me and we have similar points of views.
I took the computer to his home and left it there for a few days. Three days later he called me and asked me to stop by his house as soon as possible. I arrived at his home, rang the bell and he answered. The look on his face was grave. I looked at him and asked him to give me the bad news. I was half expecting that he had found a virus that he can’t remove. He turned me around so that we remain outside of his house and in his front yard. He looked at me and whispered that my computer was bugged. I looked at him and asked what do you mean its bugged? You found a bug inside it, thinking I had a roach problem or something. He replied “Yes” as he shows me something in his hand. It was a RF device that can tell someone what I was doing, what site(s) I was frequenting, it also had the ability to pickup a conversation. (It was voice activated.)
The first thing out of my mouth was “Holy Shit.” My friend turns to me and says “That’s not the bad news.” I look at him as I was trying to let this finding sink in. “So”, I said, “What’s the bad news?” My friend looks at me shaking his head, he whispers to me and said, “Its a Government bug.” I ask him how do you know? How can you tell?” My friend looks at me and tells me that he has seen these mechanical RF devices before as he has serviced them. He tells me that I’m on someone’s shit list. He tells me that he doesn’t want to get involved because he doesn’t want to lose his security clearance.
My friend turns around, reach inside his house and hands me back my computer. I take it from him as I whisper to him, “Is it safe now?” He nods his head up and down in affirmative manner. I asked him if he can tell me how long this RF device was in my computer. He shakes his head, “No.”
I had bought this computer over 2 years ago. I never had to take it outside the house, except when I had a fire and all my stuff was packed up and put into storage.
Like I said, this was just last month. I immediately replaced the computer, I have changed my IP address and I am looking to go to the black internet.
Its funny, in that, what I have been sharing with you folks is really not a top secret. However, what I have told you folks is the barefaced truth. If the Government is that afraid of what I have to say and to whom I say it to; then we are in worse shape that I had suspected.
The Government has my 201 file, they have my employment record, I have waited over 10 years to speak my opinion. So why am I their concern? If I disappear or something you will know that it went down dirty.
What kind of computer did you have that the listening device was in? It could have been manufactured within that particular computer. If it is a popular computer used by millions of Americans, what a perfect way to trace what Americans are doing – and no one would be the wiser.
This sitting president and his criminal administration could have forced the computer manufacturer to install this device or suffer the consequences. Or this may have been a chip used for marketing info that came as standard equipment OR someone placed this device inside the computer.
I know my computer (5 years old) now has voice capability for use with calls, SKYPE, etc.so it wouldn’t take much more technology to up the ability to activate and record a voice conversation.
I still think we need to know what make of computer you were using – and avoid getting one. Technology is a good thing but it opens up a can of “invasion” worms.
Cliff, I hope you don’t leave our blogging world because your comments are good, well thought out suggestions and we need people with level heads and smart minds to keep us strong and on the right track.
I don’t know what brand of computer you purchased Cliff, but I would have chosen an older model without all the new technologies and possibly any preinstalled tracking devices. That way this govt could not find nor track what you are doing OR you could purchase a new one and find some highly educated techy guy to go through it for tracking devices before you start the deep Net.. Any brand new computer could have multiple tracking chips and only an extreme techy would know what to look for. Good luck.
The NSA has been exposed for intercepting packages enroute to people and businesses and installing bugs. If yoiu find that hard to believe, look it up. Do due diligence and you’ll have your eyes opened. Be careful what sites you find credible as there are many disinformation sites available with which to ensnare the unsuspecting. We’re pretty deep down the rabbit hole now Alice
We have money for fighter jets, bombs, and spying on us. But they keep telling us we are broke. So where is all the money coming from?
word cognition is never mentioned.WHY? Everyone needs to be profiled especially the members of the CULT religions . Who tells mr.Obama what to do ? BILLIONAIRE SORROS & who else ! REALITY IS TOUGH TO ACCEPT. WE WILL NEVER KNOW THE TRUTH …ITS CLASSIFIED !
It’s getting crazy out there. I’m sick of it, you’re sick of it. As crazy as this may sound, this administration has succeeded in one thing: It has awakened the american people as to who our true enemy is.
The enemy is within! He’s at the top busy tanking our nation whom he considers Colonialists, so he’s transforming America into a Fascist (all power to the top) style government, you know, tyrannical dictator!!!
What are my thoughts? American citizens get what they deserve. If you don’t think you deserve NSA snooping and all the other crap the government is doing to relieve you of your freedoms, then what have you done to prevent it…? That’s what I thought.
No one likes to be spied on, especially normal citizens. But the times be changing, we live in a world that is a result of American Foreign Policy, and we have made some enemies. Our enemies have learned how to use our societies freedom’s against us.Every time there is an event that produces a Public outcry for the Government to do something it feeds the fire that is consuming our civil liberties. Most people in the United States are cattle being herded around, they are the ones with their heads in the sand and they are to busy to really see what is going on around them here and in the world. The rest of the world wants what we have and will do whatever it can to take or destroy what we have. Whether anyone wants to see it or not, that is reality. So how are we to protect our union from our many detractors? When they can be hidden amongst us, working to bring destruction on us. I may not agree with all that is happening in our Government because of the potential for misuse. Yet the alternative is even more unacceptable, 911 has shown us their intentions, that much I do know. I must maintain a open mind and heart for my government and to use my will to build it better. It is what we have made of it for better or worse, we the people must accept our responsibility for the creation of not only our government but also for the worlds animosity for our way of life and the attitude of entitlement we exude. Just one mans humble opinion…
I agree with your analysis , but disagree on your conclusion. The harm from “our” Feral Gov. far outweighs the harm from Muslim Terrorists. In fact the Ferals don’t have that good a record against the terrorists except when they use agent provocateurs and “stage” the “attack”. Maybe their expansion to “Domestic Terrorism” is to get their “stats” higher while getting their real enemy…….You, comrade.
You are a government shill. And you know why so I’ll say no more.
It is too bad the NSA is spending millions on useless information when thousands of people are starving and in need of medical attention. How in the world are the scary bombers and those with mental disease with guns getting through without being caught if they are collecting useless information “along with info on these characters”?
Lenin called the folks aiding the communist cause ” useful idiots ” (Agenda:Grinding America Down). For communism to triumph, 2 actions are necessary: do not mention communism& get rid of Jedeo Christian base. Wether it’s the NSA or barack insane obama, harry reid or whoever, these folks are enemies of the Republic either overtly or covertly. Folks need to cut out the tv & pick up non mainstream publications & educate themselves or they AND their children will be hanging by their thumbs. These folks are criminals & they mean bussness.
Contrary to what this man occupying the oval office may think, we are NOT stupid. We DO see what is going on in all the agencies. We don’t like it one bit. Question is…will we peacefully await another election or will this administration force the hand of citizens. So very sad we have to tolerate this..and if things don’t change….just how peaceful will we remain???? And yes, I DO think the rest of the world is hoping we’ll take the lead once more. Better sooner than later.
From a Northern Brother….Hi to All …..and …… Well from your Brothers and Sisters at arms here in Canada…. we are suffering the same treatment, as Gun Control lobbyists are again attacking the Common People of this Nation, after years of a useless Gun Control Act that was Repealed, (millions of wasted dollars) that threatened all Citizens who owed firearms to Register or for certain, to be prosecuted if found out…. sending millions of heritage fire arms and their history, owned by law abiding Respectful Citizens, to be demolished, and wanting now to ban semi-auto Rifles… the VZ now at the fore front of “Assault Weapons” I am not a hater but im getting tired of defending my rights as a Citizen here also… When I Voted I had the “Reasonable expectation that my Government would protect me, and protect those who cannot protect themselves”, and Now we have to Protect our Selves from our own Government???….Time to make Governmental Changes here also, if they are not going to listen to the “People” … I support your actions and hope we can repair both our Nations and return the power TO THE PEOPLE…..
time to get the “lazy asses” out of the chairs and Vote!
Stop making us all Criminals…. For all of us who enjoy and Respect out Right to Hunt, and those who enjoy the shooting sports…. Ultimately We The People Pay For It, (thru licensing, support of Gun Clubs, and there contributions and donations in Kind to our Wildlife and there Habitats ) and yet we are not Respected as The “Stewards of our Nations Wild Life and there Habitats” Time for change and we all need to speak up….. Lets concentrate on removing the Criminal element, and distance ourselves from those who are:
Disrespectful, and criminally negligent of our rights and those in Government trying to take our Rights away….”NO GOVERNMENT IS MORE POWERFULL THAN ITS PEOPLE “UNLESS WE ARE NOW LIVING IN A COMMUNIST COUNTRYS”…. AND WE ARE NOT AND WILL NOT…. WE ARE FREE CITIZEN OF OUR RESPECTFULL NATIONS AND OUR GOVERNMENTS NEED KNOW THIS…. TIME ONCE AGAIN TO FIGHT FOR OUR NATIONS, OUR PEOPLE AND OUR RIGHTS…. WE ARE STRONGER TOGETHER.. THAN ANY GOVERNMENT….AND WE MAY NEED TO PROVE IT ONCE AGAIN….
If the NSA is spying on me they’re wasting their time snd the Government’s money.
I’m really liking the Libertarian platform. Their intention is to abolish the NSA, the IRS, and any other non-Constitutional government agencies. They want to give us our guns, and our rights to privacy back. From what I’m seeing, they are looking to make the playing field even across the board, by removing corporate influence from government, removing government intervention in the areas they have no business being in (no more big bank and corporate bailouts at our expense), and returning the power back to the people where it belongs. If you’re interested, you can read their policy at http://www.lp.org/platform.
Even George Bush said that the Constitution is nothing more than a G.D. piece of paper. You have to wonder why comrade Obama is still following the last presidents program. DHS, patriot act, etc. What was that secret meeting one week before Obama’s inauguration. With GW, Clinton, and Obama about ??? You will follow orders from the power elite or else..?
It makes no difference what you do, because all the members of your community will tell lies about you & to you. If your not prepping, they swear you are NUTZ, & if you are prepping, they tell lies about you too, such as he has bombs & so on, so I just tell em I have two Trident Missels in my yard, buried under my Angle in the back yard, so now, they can really talk crap about me. But what I do or don’t do is my business. If you don’t join their movement, to stand & fight, you are a terrorist too, so you can’t win, so I just tell em crazy stuff & say to heck with what they think. You would be surprised how closely the Govt & Sheriff listens to these folks that are simply trying to keep the eyes of the Law from looking at them, & what they are doing. Hididn ammo at their Brother in Laws house, next door, & tricks like this, & hunting clubs, & the list goes on. So Uncle takes out the one that all the lies are being told about, & thwe crazies get off scot free, & undisturbed !!!!!! Now, who is crazy??
With the ramped up civil and military defence budgets that’s costing us trillions a year, (or at least so they claim) it’s the budgets, I can understand the expenses involved. After all the military needs food, weapons, ammunition, machinery, ships, aircraft, clothing, toilet paper… and what’s more they need all of the new and experimental weapons that they can get. Advanced weapons means more spending, trials, experimentation, just look at the new breed of robots coming up. The eavesdropping and spying methods that are being developed everyday. All of the new ways that information is being gathered, who knows it might be that spider crawling up the wall in your house or that fly that just came in through the open door. Nanobots, self replicating, self designing, intelligent, and soon I would imagine deadly. This isn’t just science fiction, not any more…
I think its high time we spy on them! If they spied on the derivative market for example we would have the real villians in jail. I’m so sick of this already. It is time to jail some bankers and get a president who honors the constitution. We must demand this before we are all in fema camps and gas chambers. Just look at what hitler did before he gased millions….see anything in common?! Its time to impeach and jail. All of them. Inside trading in congress is a huge problem where the stocks owned by congress looks like the who’s who of bailouts…..enough already! May God bless those whom are worthy and for the rest, may the devil have his dues.
Let me preface this by saying I am NOT an Obama supporter. But he did not start this; DHS, Patriot Act & more were Dubya’s doing. He just expanded it. So neither of the 2 major parties can claim innocence. I have long identified as a Libertarian, & I think if folks went to the party website & poked around, they just might discover that they are closet libertarians, too. I will also say, Frank, that when this news first came out, one of my first knee-jerk thoughts was that I needed to delete you & others connected with you. But then I would be cut off, & they already know about us, anyway. It has been suggested that we start sending the Constitution to our friends, so that those spying on us will get a chance to read it. I am a nobody, but appreciate your posts & your community. God save us all; He is the only one who can!
When is the American going to have the balls to stand up to this no good president. If nothing is done then we might as well kiss what is left of this great nation goodbye. By the time he is done we will be under martial law and he will not leave office
I see the wisdom in your words. We have the balls, Alan. It takes gonads NOT to respond….we’ll first see what happens midterms, then 2016. (Just how entrenched is the fraud???) If we get a dem in the oval office (heaven forbid) a republican House/Senate can “do nothing”, and stop the stupidity through nonfunding. Congress, though a tad dim of wit, have been sitting on as much as possible from this
“leader”. Question is, can the country turn around what this “leader” has done to us already? Who knows.
My opinion is that the President won’t need to place us under Martial Law or do anything to retain power because he will peacefully leave office. The reason is that Obama is not needed for more than however many terms he gets. The elites like George Soros and groups like the TIDES foundation and the century old, generational progressive game plan just need someone to be their front man. It does not matter if it is progressive light (George or any other Bush or Romney, McCain, Christie, Gingrich) or progressive heavy (Bill or any other Clinton or Obama). Either progressive type allows for the progressive, incremental growth of government. Why should the progressive powerbrokers (groups and rich individuals) risk calling attention to themselves by such means as martial law. They’ve got it good as long as the uninformed majority of U.S. citizens stay that way. Once that uninformed majority has their “ah ha” and then “uh oh” moment, that is when the progressives will need to push for Marshall Law.
.Alan as well as others reading from this forum, please visit You Tube and watch the video clip titled, “North American Union”. It does not matter “who” is serving in the presidential arena, in any country; it is the “Illuminati” (thirteen families) that control the world. At the top are the Rothchilds, Bilderbergers, JP Morgan (Chase and Wells Fargo Banks), Rockefellers, and then it goes down the masonic structure to include every freemason president. John F. Kennedy was going to make a state of the union address to the American people, from Dallas, Texas, in November 1963, when he was assassinated. He was going to reveal the truth; however, the power at be took him out, killed Marilyn Monroe, and Jacklyn Kennedy was forced to marry Mr. Onassis to protect the rest of her family. My advice to all, is to get your money out of the banks and put into a local Credit Union. Also, if you would like to drive prices down on commodities, such as gas, food, etc., all must stop purchasing these items on the same day, such as Sunday or Monday. There are power in numbers, so just imagine what would happen if these companies did not sell gas or food for one or two days; they would lower the prices to stimulate sales!
Additionally, Obama is just a puppet on the covert strings of the Illuminati; he either plays the game by their rules, or they simply hurt his wife and daughters and whomever else is important to him.
We have a president who is a lying spendthrift, and publicly says that the “Constitution doesn’t matter I’m
running this” What do you expect?