Pentagon teaches military students that conservatives are hate groups.
Of all the anti-Constitutional activities that the current administration has engaged in over the past five years, I think I’m the most surprised at how far the military has swung from the right to the left. In the past, the U.S military has been the one thing we’ve been able to count on when liberals run amok. It has always stood for what’s right, even when it wasn’t popular.
But in recent years, there’s been a big turnaround, and I believe the Obama Administration is responsible for it. It hasn’t been enough for them to take God out of the equation. No, they also have to harass Christians in the military, even silencing chaplains when it suits their needs.
Here’s the latest, and if I hadn’t read it with my own two eyes, I wouldn’t have believed it. The Pentagon is now preaching that the Founding Fathers and today’s conservatives are extremists. I’m not making this up. That means, among other things, that George Washington would not be welcome in today’s U.S. military. Neither would Thomas Jefferson nor Benjamin Franklin nor any of the other Founding Fathers.
The Defense Equal Opportunity Management Institute training guide originated from the Pentagon and was acquired through the Freedom of Information Act. (Boy, I bet that’s an Act the administration would love to do away with, right? Just give them time.)
The guide depicts the Founding Fathers as extremists and conservatives as “hate groups.” The Department of Defense warns military students to be aware “that many extremists will talk of individual liberties, states’ rights and how to make the world a better place.”
As if those were terrible things.
The text reads, “In U.S. history, there are many examples of extremist ideologies and movements. The colonists who sought to free themselves from British rule and the Confederate states who sought to secede from the Northern states are just two examples.”
Seriously?!?!
Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton told Fox News, “It’s disturbing insight into what’s happening inside Obama’s Pentagon. The Obama Administration has a nasty habit of equating basic conservative values with terrorism.”
Patriotism…freedom of speech…the right to bear arms…states’ rights…making the world better…who knew that these were horrible, subversive things? But that’s what the Pentagon is telling us.
That’s how messed up things have gotten under this administration. I’d love to hear your opinions on the direction the U.S military has taken in recent years.
When Ted Cruz went to DC and found that his own party was in the bag with Obama on Debt Increase he rebelled. He was castigated with lies. They were spread by news media from anon calls, etc. Cruz said that ALL congressmen and senators are bought and paid for by lobbyists, self-interest groups and well-healed business executives. All of them must go. I love to see and hear what Trump has to say. Somehow I believe he knows where the bones are buried and could get it done. The people like to hear him say, “I don’t need anyone’s money, I have plenty pf my own.” Personally, I believe that Ben Carson is brighter than all of them but does he have the political knowledge to survive the vicious lies and vitriol that would be served by the Progressive Left. There are no Democrats anymore. They have all been killed off by Progressives loyal to Spooky Dude Soros
Where is Cruz getting his money to run ? Money controls. Who is his backers ? Where is his millions coming from. Are asleep like all others.
I agree that Ben Carson is the most brilliant person in the country.
Perhaps the thought is that if an outburst does occur then the military will not join it but will oppose it and subdue it more readily?
we are being taken apart from the inside by people who feel nothing for our constitution and regard it as archaic. I really do beleive the one world order crowd is solidifying things in preparation for God only knows what. You cant see it until you step way back and look at each thing seperately and break it down. Then put it together and see how the pieces fit. It is frightening.
what is going on right now? Jade helm. the question you should ask is why? Not what you are told but the purpose of why and the mechanics involved in doing it. You might also look at the fema camps,, (oh yes, they exist). How about moving inner city people to the burbs/ How is that going to work? Why is it being proposed and implemented? Illegals? why? simple, they have never known freedom and so can be more closely controlled because they never ever had a 2nd amendment. So more easily controllable and more likely to be more comfortable with a more socialist one world order government. That is also why the subduing of the south is so important. sure its not called that but the confederate flag has got to go. Cant have rabble rousing rebels running around acting all independent right? Step back. sure some will say I am crazy and hell you are right maybe I am but I saw a pattern and like an onion it has many layers. Do you really think your vote counts? How many times has it been discovered that you vote for A but B comes up? Who manipulated that ? No one knows. But you do know that a company that George soros owns in spain builds voting machines right? and they are used in a huge percentage of our elections right? In this country. You know that? See what I mean by layers of onions. Got to dig. I didn’t like what I found. You wont either.
Mike….Very well put!
Right on the money my Friend!! Takin apart from the inside!! President Trump need’s to stop all this as quickly as possible!! NWO cannot be allowed to take over! Million’s of us will be No More!! ??❤??
Wow
Amazing how one comment can get so many different responses.
Did Sadam not use gas in Northern Iraq long before the war we had with him?
The military, our president and others need to be very careful with our constitution when they start dictating religious liberty for anyone.
Our founding fathers were a bunch of radicals as have been most Americans who have taken steps that are not popular. Would I have been a Tory or an extreme radical in the 1770’s? Hindsight is always clearer than foresight. Would I have been for states rights or a Federalist in the 1870’s? The slavery issue came later.
I was 17 with a draft number of 17 at the end of Vietnam. What I read and heard from friends coming home, I had no real intention of going there. Had someone informed me of the things we were keeping in check in other parts of Southeast Asia by our presence, I would have been happy to go in a heartbeat.
Having sacrificed a huge amount in Iraq and Afghanistan in my 2 sons, if we ever go to war again in my lifetime, as we probably will, and hear some reporter ask about an exit strategy I will surely puke, hopefully on that reporter. We are still in Korea, Japan and Germany. Those country’s economies have flourished as a result of our “overbearing dominance.” What I see in the middle east is a lot of blood shed for no literal gain of any kind for those countries or ourselves; just changed one kind of dictator for another with no real government in place to maintain the peace. If we go for the purpose of regime change, be committed to allow that process to transpire. If it takes 40 years then let it take 40 years.
If that is too expensive, then stay home and let them create their own regime change.
Some of our young people are not as naïve as we like to think and really do know rats when they smell them. They may be under orders to be quiet, but the thought processes will continue and they will talk about them. I know we seem to frown on teaching history these days for some of the very reasons that are being attempted to persuade our American young people to turn against their own people with some of this kind of teaching. It is happening in law enforcement and other places as well so do not be surprised if you see some pretty strange things happen in the name of government of one sort or another. That said there are still some old hands on board that can help the younger ones sort through the garbage and still do their jobs effectively.
Our founding father radicals understood that sometimes a government of by and for the people needs to have its leash shortened. We have checks and balances; that seem to have been altered of late so no one checks or balances anyone else. It might not be politically correct or someone’s feelings might get hurt, oh my. Someone will be upset no matter what is said or done. Our own history will tell us that.
As individuals and politicians, or whatever our role may be in and out of the government circle we all need to think past the present situation and look to the good of the country and not our own personal interest. Sometimes that comes with an unpleasant cost in one way or another.
The Obama admin has been calling General Officers into The White House & asked IF they would fire upon the American people IF ordered to.. the ones that said No
have been fired….Never five up Your guns- use them to protect Home & Family…get some food in & something to protect it RD
yeh and the remaining one wear pink/rainbow uniforms-
I’m in! Go Man Go!
The real terrorists today is the criminal government of the United States. Their aim is clearly to eliminate God from our culture. They simply don’t understand that God will not be mocked!!
Obama wants to make sure that if there’s a DOI inspired revolt, the military doesn’t join it. So he’s morphing the military from a protector of the nation into his own personal body guard.
I think the time is comming when we’re going to have to depend on ourselves. I’m keeping my weapons clean and my food and medical stuff ready for anything. You should also. Regardless of who is running the country. If it’s democrats it’s wrong. If it’s republicans it’s wrong. The voting system doesent work anymore. so what can we do???? I know let’s all turn into “Pancho Villa”. It’s looking alot like that’s ower only path ??? I’m ready are you?
U.S.A. Dan. You are right on target when you said that you are keeping your arms clean and are stocking up on supplies that will be needed in I fear the very near future. I’ve been saying for years to many people that I know that our votes no longer count for anything. As a veteran of our Armed Forces I know all tpo well what the government is capable of doing and is fact doing right now. We are a country in crisis and if the people think that their elected officials are there to help them, I’m afraid that they are all in for a very rude awakening. If people don’t care what’s going on then I believe that we as decent citizens need to keep spreading the word and continue to tell them when zero hour hits, no one especially their government is not going to be there to help them. Everyone needs to have a plan of battle ready for what is coming. I too have begun to get supplies stored and I am getting ready for the time when I and my loved will have to BUG-OUT. So people prepare now and continue to do so before it’s too late.
Hey Bub: You are apparently one of those Christians that hates Jesus and all he said. “Judge not lest you be judged”, “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone”, etc. Like all the haters, you point the finger at everyone except yourself. Big deal, so Obama stinks. You, and others of your ilk have a combination ADD and Alzheimer’s. It was the so called conservative Bush who nearly bankrupted the country, sent fine young men over to be killed chasing the WMDs, and gave us Homeland Security which is very effective stifling ordinary Americans and not much else. It’s obvious that you prefer attacking others while refusing to look in the mirror. Pathetic.
Your Chaos Theory has arrived in the person of Donald Trump . Congratulations
I don’t know why you are so worried about that when the the military still teaches that Osama bin Ladin had weapons of mass destruction when we all know they were caught in a lie with that one. Lets face it they just do and say whatever they want these days.
By the way Colon Powell was in on that game with all the others.
I think that maybe you are referring to Saddam Hussein. Even though the weapons of mass destruction were not found, I believe that the atrocities that he was committing had to be stopped.
Cathy, I agree with you. How can people forget the scenes we saw on TV days before the invasion where they were moving large trucks in and out that were going back to Syria. A few Generals have spoken of that but seems there has been a ban on that information. I can remember when, for days, it was a concern that they were moving out large crates of stuff plus burying some things in the desert. There are still some soldiers that bring that up because they saw it but they have been ignored.
Maybe the us military and all the military police states should grow a backbone and attack the world bank…all other nations should follow suit! Then the only thing we would need to prepare for is peace! We are the 99%.
Many people believe that we are living in, “the last days” but we’re not..we are now living in, “the end of days”.
How close are we till we see with our own eyes? well, one of the main prophecies pertaining to this, is what the bible speaks about how, Israel would be abandoned by all the nations to fend for itself, and how GODS people would be persecuted.
This govt led by Barack Hussein Obama has literally abandoned Israel, and it is very clear that there is no turning back, since sides have been chosen, when it comes to Israel and GODS people..
You see, this man in the white house is not what many perceive him to be, but is a wolf disguised in sheeps clothing.
America is the last bastion of freedom and democracy, but that has been turned around and we have sold and bartered the land that GOD gave to the Isralites for litteraly, nothing..
The whole world is on board with seeying to it that Israel demises (dissapears from existance) withuot a peep..
Little do they know that the stage is being set, where all the armies of this world are going to gather themselves in,”the valley of decission and there meet the one whom they have rejected, for their folly.
It is accounted unto all, “one life, then one death, and after that, one judgement.”
The valley of Meggido is ready for all the nations that have bartered and sold the land of the prophets as a man sells a piece of bread..
What are all the nations going to do with their armies, when the multitudes gather in, “the valley of descission and their blood runs like rivers?
The bible said of Israel, “I will bless them that bless thee, and I will curse them that curse thee.”
I would not want to be with that mob when the lord comes a calling, so I say, “blessed be the lord, and blessed be Israel and his people.”
PAPA……….
Excellent observation, PAPA.
Yes! We certainly are living in the end of days. The nations of the world are going to reap the wrath of God for their hatred of Israel. They will come to know exactly what it means to defy God’s promise for Israel.
It is refreshing to hear someone who is aware of what point in time we find ourselves. If only people would study God’s Holy Word they would understand what is happening in the world today and what is about to happen in the very near future. IN truth, if I wasn’t a follower of our Lord Jesus Christ I would be really scared with what is going on in the world today. It’s all in the Bible.
Great Post PAPA and most of the world seems to want to ignore that and the secular ones act as though Christians are lunatics and put no credence into what they tell them .
The military is being ripped apart by Obama and certainly Christians in the military are being targeted for their beliefs.
Agee totally PAPA!
Amen! Amen!
You are correct sir–deep as a horses bridle-bad part is the moral people of our country have to reap what the degenerates sow-it’s a shame I have more respect for Putin as a MAN–I hope he knows that ALL Americans don’t believe in what our sissy in chief represents–he just cant sort us out-as far as leaders- IKE was a MAN-JFK-Reagan—like that -the rest???you know
Amen!
Without any links to the document in question, you state various ideas that it supposedly contains, and then you expect us to accept your take on the document. Wouldn’t it be better to just publish the document in question and let us form our own opinions, instead of presenting your (maybe bias?) opinion as the only way to see it?
That said, I find what you say as a bit conflicting. Our founding fathers were indeed a bunch of liberal radicals, for their day. They had the radical idea that the human race could self-govern, as opposed to the conservative notion that we needed a monarch to rule over us common folk. Those conservatives were called Tories, and still are in Great Britain.
Truth is, it’s the conservatives who are on the wrong side of history. The very definition of conservative is one who wants to preserve the past ways. It’s progressives who have championed equality of treatment, individual freedom, and liberty, and not the conservatives. Conservatives have backed such things as slavery, segregation, anti-gay intolerance, rule by draconian religious dogma, and women’s servitude.
Without seeing the document in question, I cannot say what your point is. But it may be that some of the stuff you rail about is nothing but the unvarnished truth, truth that right-wing extremists hate to acknowledge.
“In U.S. history, there are many examples of extremist ideologies and movements. The colonists who sought to free themselves from British rule and the Confederate states who sought to secede from the Northern states are just two examples.”
Regardless of what the rest of the document may say, this is absolute leftist / collectivist drivel, as is your comment. You should be run out of this country on a rail, traitor.
Were u ever in the military ? Sure you weren’t. Neither was YOUR KING obumma the liar and chief. Open your eyes and see. There are none so blind as those who have eyes and do not see.
I agree with your take. I would like to link to the whole document and agree that our Founding Fathers were indeed radical liberals. I do not recall from history class when Republican became conservative and pro-big business or when Democrat became liberal pro-environment but this point just proves my point in saying I am the most liberal conservative you will ever meet and the United States needs a viable third party with the best of both and trash the rest. Wouldn’t that be radical!
Huh? It is liberals / democrats who supported slavery and segregation. Republicans voted for the 1964 Civil Rights Act in larger percentage than the Democrats in both houses. Today’s liberals / progressives are opposed to equality of treatment (racial preferences) and individual freedom (higher taxes, government snooping and business regulation). It is liberals, not conservatives, who support and excuse Islamic religious dogma being written into law, Islamic woman’s servitude, and Islamic killing of gays.
As for anti-gay intolerance, I don’t know of anyone who believes that anything that happens between consenting adults in private should be illegal. But the repeated mantra that one is born gay remains absurd no matter how often repeated. It if was 100% genetic, it would have disappeared from the gene pool long ago, as gay couples do not have their own children.
In another sense, I agree completely. In the old meaning of the word “liberal”, liberals were the ones who accepted others and new ideas. But today’s liberals are illiberal (no toleration for different ideas, including religion), and regressive not progressive (ideas such as Socialism, big government, high taxes, detailed regulation of every aspect of life and late term abortion have been shown to be destructive; support for them is a “conservative” desire to return to the rejected ideas of the 20th century).
Hey dunce ! You sure skewed the meaning. “There is no single set of policies that are universally regarded as conservative, because the meaning of conservatism depends on what is considered traditional in a given place and time. ” Stop the BS. Stop wrapping your warped lies around the pillar of truth.
Mark, you are obviously a product of the Leftist Schools. Your History teachers should be fired!
The Founding Fathers were NOT Liberals! They did NOT believe Humans could Self Govern without God, That is why buildings in DC have the Ten Commandments, & many Quotes from the Bible Emblazoned “IN STONE” on them! They knew without the Wisdom of the Bible man could NOT Govern himself!
Your version of Conservative vs Progressive reminds one of George Orwell’s “1984” NEWSPEAK, THOUGHT POLICE, come from Progessive Ideas of Today as in PC! Democrats of today (Progressives) were the Party of Slavery, KKK, yesterday! Republicans (Conservatives Party of Lincoln) Ended Slavery, fought for Blacks to be considered “HUMAN”, fought for Blacks to be able to Vote! Look up 13th, 14th, & 15th Amendment!
Who did Party of Lincoln fight to pass these 3 Amendments? DEMOCRATS today’s Progressive Party! Your Progressive Party of Obama (Monarch) is the one that wants to CONTROL from Cradle to Grave, Health Care, the fraud of Climate Change, take away their guns, (We will Control all guns) we will control how large soft drinks are, how much fat they can eat etc! It’s Dictators like Obama, Clinton & Bloomberg Who want unarmed Citizens! Dictators have killed 180 million Citizens just in the last Century AFTER disarming them!
Republicans (Conservatives) are the ones saying get Government OUT OF OUR LIVES, WE ARE CHAMPIONS OF “INDIVIDUAL RESPONSIBILITY”! OF course in DC the last 30 years many Rep Politicians have become Liberal (ie) RINO’S! However, the majority of Conservatives just proved we are the Champions of individual Freedom & Liberty by electing Donald Trump as POTUS, to turn back the progressive Ideas of controlling Monarchy of Obama! To rebuild the economy destroyed by Liberal ideas of over control of Health Care, climate Change, Military that can’t do it’s job because of Micro-Management from WH!
I am just sick the way this government (Obama) is treating the military. They are protecting his sorry A$$ and he is trashing them. God will never help us if we don’t go back to being a Christian nation.
Unfortunately, this will only get worse if America’s generals take the advice of General Boykin (among others) and resign in protest over 0bama’s orders with which they disagree. Much as I would love to see it, that would leave only the liberal idiot generals in charge. The military needs to eliminate the liberal generals, not encourage the conservative (constitution loving) generals to resign. Just my two cents.
unfortunately all I’ve been able to do is see the same things you’ve been seeing but I’ve been watching it happened now for the last 6 to 10 years and it’s been happening very slowly but it’s a definite turn around they got rid of a lot of the veterans so that they can start teaching the crap they’re teaching now thanks for getting it out there best regards
What you all fail to realize is that he isn’t going to use the U.S. Military to disarm the good citizens of this country. He is going to use his best friends from China or another country that hates us to do it. Hell he has already sold most of this country to China anyway. He will send our military into a conflict overseas and then have some other countrys military come into this country, (just like they are already doing) for “training”. Really? We are so numb to the fact that they are here already, in fact does anyone know how many foreign soldiers are here now for training? Duh? Our own will be so far away, and will not be able to do a thing about it. They are going to be disarming some other country’s law abiding citizens who just want the criminal element running their country to get the hell out. This thing with Ebola could be just the ticket he needs to declare marshal law. You notice that he hasn’t really been doing much about closing our entries into this country from the places where it is running rampant? Why is that? Because if it spreads fast enough he can just lock down this country and do as he pleases! As far as impeachment goes, why in the hell hasn’t any of our good politiians started those proceedings? I have said from the beginning that he has never run ANYTHING IN HIS LIFE, so why should he be trusted with running our country? I don’t care what color he is, that is irrelevant. I wanted Colin Powel to run for that office. We need to get this man out of that seat. And the only way to do this is if we are all calling our state reps, congressmen and women, and all of the other bloodsucking politicians who depend on our votes and tell them to get busy or get OUT! Mr Eastwood couldn’t have said it more clearly when he said that they forget that they work for us ! But the sad thing is that we have forgotten this. Make them realize that they can lose their jobs this November if they don’t get it together. We need to force this govt. to get rid of the electoral vote, and to get rid of the lifers who sit in congress for thirty years sucking us dry. A senator should not be allowed to serve more than two two year terms, same with a congressman, and a supreme court justice should not have a life term either. Jeez who thought that one up? And once they leave the office, no life time pension, no special health care for the politicians, no special retirement funds, they use what we are being made to use!! Everyone show is complaining on this site should be calling their reps offices every day and reminding them that they work for us. I know I call mine a lot. The problem is that WE THE PEOPLE have forgotten how to make our employees work for us.
WorldNetDaily’s Joseph Farah explains the need for the Electoral College
Posted: November 03, 2011
5:37 pm Eastern
© 2011
By almost 2-to-1, 62 percent vs. 35 percent, Americans think the president of the United States should be elected on the basis of the national popular vote rather than by winning in the Electoral College.
Democrats continue to be more favorable than Republicans to what would be a major constitutional change.
I have to admit, on first glance, the Electoral College system seems like a wacky idea. You mean I’m not really voting for the president? I’m voting for “electors” who will choose a president? You mean the guy who gets the most votes doesn’t necessarily win?
Because in most cases the winner of the popular vote has been the winner of the Electoral College vote, it hasn’t been a front-burner issue in American politics for most of my life. We seldom think about it – certainly in non-election years.
However, ever since Al Gore won the popular vote in 2000 and lost the presidential election, many Americans have pushed for scrapping the system devised by our Founding Fathers in favor of a direct, popular vote.
Learn why it’s crucial to preserve the brilliant concept handing down from our founders — read George Grant’s “The Importance of the Electoral College”
But the Founding Fathers created the Electoral College system for some very good reasons. And under no circumstances should it be abandoned today.
Let me give you an example of what the founders feared might occur with direct presidential elections based on popular vote alone.
Let’s suppose for a moment that Candidate X carries each of 49 states in the popular vote by slim margins. Though he wins the vote in every state, he does so with a total of only 100,000 votes more than Candidate Y in those states. Meanwhile, Candidate Y wins California by a margin of 1 million votes.
Candidate Y leads in the popular vote over Candidate X by 900,000 votes, yet has only carried one state.
Now, this is an exaggerated example of what could indeed happen, but it serves to illustrate the potential problem with a national popular vote. This is what the founders, who understood and appreciated the concerns and rights of sovereign states, had in mind when they came up with a system that is actually ingenious when you think about it.
In other words, the constitutional requirement of an Electoral College was designed for … fairness. It was an idea to protect the smallest voices. It was yet another invaluable check and balance devised by men who understood that powerful people and governments have a tendency to run roughshod over those with less power. It is a uniquely American concept – and it is needed today more than ever.
Without the Electoral College, the huge population centers on the East Coast and West Coast could, in effect, dictate to the rest of us.
Of course, even the best system is subject to abuse. No one understood that better than James Madison and Thomas Jefferson and the other founders. They knew that fraud – the kind we have witnessed in recent elections – could only be avoided and prevented in a country that was moral, that believed in right and wrong, that punished high crimes and fostered self-government rather than imposed a police state on the governed.
It’s no wonder that in the current environment there is suggestion of abandoning the Electoral College. Many people in this country think America is a democracy. It is not. It is a representative constitutional republic. And thank God for that.
Democracy is little more than mob rule – dictatorship by majority opinion. It almost always ends in oppression of minorities – be they religious, ethnic, racial or political minorities. Rule of law beats rule of mob any day. It is one of the reasons the American War for Independence was such a blessing to humanity and why the French Revolution was, in many ways, such a curse.
To many people today, the ends justify the means. If they can get their guy in the White House by changing the rules in the middle of the game, so be it. If they can get their guy in the White House by printing phony voter credentials, so be it. If they can get their guy in the White House by cheating or buying votes, so be it.
Frankly, there’s no point in even debating with people like that. There is no common ground for civil discourse. They are not content to live as free people under the rule of law. They prefer to rig the game because they think they can derive some personal benefit.
But, if indeed recent polls are accurate, it is disturbing to see a significant majority now opposed to the uniquely American invention known as the Electoral College.
Biggest advantage of the Electoral College is that it keeps all elections on the state level. There is no direct election of any national office according to the Constitution. This means that the presidential election, when it is in any sense close, is decided in states where the two parties are fairly evenly matched. Thus, both have sufficient numbers to oversee the voting process. If it was by popular vote, California could easily generate millions of fraudulent Democrat votes without effective oversight, and Kansas could easily generate millions of fraudulent Republican votes. The founding fathers knew what they were doing.
It was once said, I think by Jefferson, that a democracy was three wolves and a lamb voting on what’s for dinner. Seems correct to me.
You are correct in your statement regarding the electoral college system. Without it there would be no, at least, fair elections. However, it may become necessary to go back to a paper ballet and scrap the computerized system utilized now in most states. Using the computerized system creates an opening for fraud. Some believe it has already been used perhaps twice.
Thank you, Professor X, for an extremely well expressed analysis of the current situation and our desperate need to retain what our Founders bequeathed to us ‘ “A republic, if you can keep it.” The only aberration I see is that through the onslaught of “progressivism,” today, quite often, the majority is subjected to the dictatorship of the minority (gay marriage, abortion, affirmative action, islamophilia).
I too come from a long, long line of military family, all the way to the Civil War. Being from Alabama U might know witch side we were on. WE DID NOT ON SLAVES!! It is truly bad what this man that holds the title of President, has done to this country, the Constitution, health care, military, the dollar. I now have nephews in the AF. They tell me that Obumer is doing everything he can to force people out, and discourage people from joining. One is married with a child, got a letter not long ago from the federal Gov., that his wife and kid was no longer on his insurance. He too does not trust a lot of things going on, and said he would never take up arms against our on people. This President is not American, and not a Christian. His goal is to bring down this country. He has the whole world against us, by lying and stabbing them in the back like he has the American people. The more pain and suffering he can put on America the better he loves it. Our healthcare, Gone! The will soon be gone, with the intelligence of geroge soros. Look how many countries he’s bankrupted. Obama does not trust this military to carry out some of the things he would like to do to the American people. That is why he has put so much money in Homeland Security. This will be his army. When the dollar falls, then here comes martial law. This is where he hopes to finish off what is left of America. He has America divided whole world in chaos, every country against the Jews of Israel (GODS CHOSEN PEOPLE). He bows, and funds muslims, witch makes U wonder. But if I’m wrong about a lot of this, why would a real American President want so much bad, for his country, and the American people. Remember, the muslims said they were going to bring the next fight to America, looks like there getting help. Can anyone tell me why they are building Fema camps all over the country on Gov. land. GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!
Will just look who Obama has appointed to JCS and you can see that this has been going on for a long time. Think of brown shirts? and now itshtf most military members will say the are following orders. just thank God for true patriots, and the oath keepers. but really our government is [email protected] its self because of all the conservative s that own guns. I think when it come down to the nitty gritty 30% of military will just go awol. but in the meantime tack action vote get with like mined people and friends. but above all prepare yourself and family how to act (bug-out) and use opsec at all time.
No one has mentioned the muslim influence in the Pentagon. Don’t you remember that CAIR and ISNA have been given posts as advisors? They forbid teaching of muslim terror tactics and weakened our resolve. There are no muslim terrorists in the USA according to the official government edicts.
I recall what happened at Kent State University when our state military were given the order to shoot unarmed citizens. Who will stop this puppet of George Soros and his communist backers?
Frank, I guess you can ‘believe’ anything you want. But, how many lives have been lost in the name of God? Many wars have been fought over: “My belief system is the only right one and your’s isn’t.” There’s one God no matter how you spell it. I think it’s about time we grow spiritually and realize “different organized religions” belongs in the Dark Ages. And I never could rmember a time I felt like the US military would do the right time, in my 57 years. And before you say “I believe it’s Obama”, do yor homework instead. Maybe you’ll learn how our system of govt. works. Before you “believe” it’s Obama’s fault, you should first look at Congress, they are the ones breaking our country nowadays. I think it’s just an excuse for racists to spurt their rhetoric.
Jeff: I am guessing here that you are either atheist or agnostic. Not an issue. I personally could not care less. The issue is that the people we are currently at war with have an absolute belief that if you do not believe as I do I am obligated to put you to death. You claim to know how our system works; how then do you find that congress (house/senate) is pushing a racist agenda? Socialist? by all means but racist? This group has no preference on whom their slaves might be-as long as they are slaves.
Racists? Organized Religion? It shows that you’ve got some deep hatreds of your own, man, that have curved your thinking pretty miserably, seeing as you want to defend Obama and the leftists/collectivists. You’re obviously one of them, given your slant.
Hi guys. Long time reader but don’t usually respond. I come from a long line of former/current military members. Father 35yrs AF…all ranks but MSGT and General. I was AF pilot for 15yrs before busting my back. Son currently flies. S.in Law currently flies…etc.
I now work teaching young AF pilots to fly using simulators. I work with approx 80 mostly retired, Major and above, officers who teach. We are 1 of 4 bases doing this.
You can rest assured that not a single one here can stand this administration and isn’t afraid to say so. You would be amazed at all the anti-political cartoons posted on the walls of each of our offices. Lot’s of anti OBama, government quotes. At least 1/2 are long-time NRA members, most have our concealed Carry, etc. I can’t think of anyone here who isn’t disgusted with how our military or government is acting.
We are required to attend all active duty briefings, propaganda meetings, …..treated as if we are still active. Nobody buys any of it, we roll our eyes and look at smart phones, games, etc.
We do often interact with the active pilots and seem to get a lot of “thumbs-up” statements about our viewpoints. (they CAN’T publicly say things like we can) so we are their sounding board.
All I’m saying from my little piece of the world is don’t underestimate some of us older officers. We might be more conservative than you think.
Ken
Hi Ken, I work with active duty and I can confirm what you wrote. I have also noted many young libertarians amongst the 20-30 year olds. My commander is squarely on the side of the patriots and he states many others are also wide-eyed about what’s going on. I did 26 years, also in the AF and could not be more worried about the situation. I belong to Oathkeepers, NRA life member, etc but if things really went bad, I worry about logistics, communications, etc., would like to make contact with you off this board if possible. I am in FL.
Kato
Ken ;
Rest assured that as a veteran of 4yrs service, and one year combat (Viet Nam) 64/64 I have not strayed to the left or care about their political diatribe.
These so called “experts” on just about anything, wich they know little or nothing about can be attributed to the lamebrain idiots who listen and continually vote for the a—s that are now running the show..
Rest assured that this will pass just like their idiocy..
Papa…
As a U.S. ARMY VETERAN 1974 (vietnam) ERA- Disabled
The U S D.O.D. Refuses to acknowledge my services to our country during my active duty. I was trained specifically for “operation homecoming”, A mission that was formally scrubbed… We TRAINED, TRAINED, and more TRAINED for this special mission, when it came to the time it was suppose to be kept on record…IT WASN’T, to this day I am considered a VET non-service connected HONORABLY MEDICALLY DISCHARGED for INJURIES SUSTAINED WHILE ON ACTIVE MISSION THAT NEVER TOOK PLACE! I WAS TO BE CONSIDERED AWOL OR MIA IF CAUGHT WHERE WE WENT! WHEN THEY GOT ME HOME, STATESIDE I WAS BACK IN THE INFIRMARY WHERE I STARTED MY BASIC TRAINING. I HAD an AJUNTANT GENERAL SHOW UP TO MY BEDSIDE AN SAY IF I DIDN’T SIGN IN AGREEMENT THAT I VOLUTARILY ACCEPTED THAT I WAS NO LONGER FIT FOR DUTY DUE TO MY INJURIES WICH HAVE HAD LIFELONG EFFECTS SINCE THEN! YES I AGREE OUR MILITARY IS UNDER COMMUNISTIC RULE THEN AND NOW, as they make it clear any military operation they wish to do, can be done without the authority of congress, in fact they will keep the congress up to speed after or when the pentagon chooses to inform them what they are or have been doing! These are FACTS THAT I LIVE WITH! I DESPISE OUR CURRENT OPERATION OF GOVERNMENT, NOR IS IT CONDUCIVE TO AMERICAN VALUES! Sorry folks! WE VETS TRIED TO KEEP AMERICA SAFE, BUT SOMEONE FORGOT TO PAY ATTENTION TO WHO WAS RUNNING THINGS, AND WHAT DIRECTION WE TRULY ARE HEADED FOR — Thanks to KING OBAMA OUR LAST SITTING PRESIDENT! HE WILL CALL MARTIAL LAW ON US BEFORE HE IS THROUGH!
Truly yours, PATRICK HENRY
They don’t bother the Amish. This guy needs to learn how to speak to those who would try to step on his humanity.
It sound like misinformation.There is no reference to the page that quote appears on, I could say that the document said “The republican ideology is an extremist ideology” and everyone reading the article would believe it. Whats wrong with liberals? The only reason people have to dislike liberals is that they wont do everything the conservatives want to do
What is wrong with liberals is they have failed to look and learn from history. Government is not nor has it ever been a successful answer to anything other than defense (which costs a lot more money than it should, only because it is run by bureaucracy and all the garbage that attires). But to answer your question, this alone tells me in general, the liberals are lazy, free loading, uneducated, they possess introverted passive beliefs about what is really going to make the world a better place, and possess a basic misunderstanding of freedom! But that is just a general 30 second statement. If you want some in depth explanations and possibly some education on why our current path is wrong, I can suggest some very good books and very important historical documents (declaration of independence and constitution to start)!!
what is wrong with liberals? you mean aside from the fact that they are brain dead and seek to destroy America? what isn’t wrong with liberals. wake up.
I think what zenga is trying to say is that liberals are so invested in equality of persons that they are willing to trade in the moral structure, history and sanctity of our country to achieve it.
You do John Adams’ name a criminal disservice. It sounds more like you who are attempting to misinform and conflate, not the author, who gave several quotes. Do you not have a search engine? Can you not do a little research on your own? Obviously not.
Low-level information … propensity toward conflation, misinformation and rationalization … That is the hallmark of leftists / collectivists.
It is really sad that our great country will have to be
punished for the definence of GOD’S law.
I just pray for revival and hope every christian will do the same
I did my duty to my country and spent three years in the military. Fortunately not during war. I have made it a point to thank those that are serving in our military when I see them in public and have had my 10 year old grandson do the same thing. I have yet to talk to anyone in the military that didn’t have a love for his or her country and feel that the American people they are protecting, conservative or not, are terrorist or extremeist. They would have a big problem turning their weapons on their families, their friends, their neighbors or anyother American citizens. After all, protecting our people is what they joined the military to do.
I would question why at this time the Pentagon would elect to start instructing its cadets about non~revisionist history. Unfortunately most US citizens adhere to the myth and legend that the American Revoution was a conservative movement to overthrow a tyrannical king. If one investigates what actually took place he/she would discover quite a different story. Just study an accurate account of Samuel Adams life and you will soon see that the events leading up to the actual war demonstrates that it was anything but a conservative action. Familiarize yourself with an accurate appraisal of the Whig Party tactics. Remember the Continental Congress was not a mandate of the general populace, but an usurpation of power not granted by the “people.”
What I find ironic is that this instruction is being given during the administration of a president who idolizes Saul Alinsky and holds his radical philosophy as his own.
Has anyone compared this student manual with an earlier version?
Michael – I believe that you meant to say “revisionist history” and NOT “non-revisionist history.” Obama and the leftists are trying to push a revised view of history … from the leftist / collectivist twisted view of the world.
Well folks it is CLEAR who the enemy is; according to the Constitutional Oath we took upon entering the armed forces, those that go against that Document which is founded upon the Book of Deuteronomy are DOMESTIC enemies! Cheer up! Gods got the record & as our president continues to wimp out & talk rather than act, & the One World Economic, Political & Religious system continues to be put in place we must be prepared for theses “perilous times”. It is good to be known of Him!
Bud, Amen brother.
I hate having to say this, but the notion that the Pentagon has begun something untoward doesn’t shock me in the least. I recall being a ROTC cadet, then a 2nd Lieutenant toward the end of Bill Clinton’s presidency. I recall hearing a few things that struck me as being closer to pro-military propaganda than about the virtue of military personnel per se.
These latest happenings under President Obama are only the latest and most obvious of rumblings that’ve been set loose in the military community. ..Or those around it.
What everyone seems to miss is the contribution made by Alexander Hamilton and his reports to the Constitutional Conventions on such as “The Report on the Subject of Manufactures”, “The Public Credit” and “The Report on a National Bank”. The problem is that although you got rid of the British after 3 shooting wars, they took over your educational systems fabian style and re-introduced the British East India Company philosophy in stages and buried all the good work the founding fathers did. In Australia, we adopted the National Banking and Public Credit models after Federation even though we are a Constitutional Monarchist system which was progressively crushed by the City of London bankers. Australia’s Commonwealth Bank had control of the issue of currency at it’s inception and the distribution of money into the economy for productive purposes and nation building with speculative financing being left up to the investment banking sector. The United States needs to re-visit this policy and at least institute a Glass-Steagall provision and exchange rate controls as well in the manner of the Bretton Woods Agreement. This will save The United States from becoming the next Argentina.
You are a very smart man. I wish our govt. would take your advice. Thanks for your post.
First of all I want to personally thank each and every member of our military past and present for the service and commitment they have given to our country. Yes, we are in trouble. The writing is on the wall. We are in for the fight of our lives to save our country and our way of life. Shoulder to shoulder we must stand and not adhere to these powers that are trying to destroy us from within. We are all blessed to be Americans. Lets make our fore fathers proud and defend our constitution to the last man standing. I have family who served in this great land of ours and gave there lives from Korea to Vietnam. They believed in our values. In our way of life. In freedom and liberty. Lets not let them blind us with this divide and conquer mentality. We must believe in one another AND TRUST one another. For we are all in this together. This is ours to take BACK. LETS DO IT !!! NO PRISONERS. NO RULES OF ENGAGEMENT. COMPLETE OVERHAUL. Lets take back our country………
GOD BLESS AMERICA
I served 6 years, and have watched closely the changes that are taking place. It’s scary but it can be fixed. Where the hell have are leaders went. Our only hope is with the new Generation of Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Marco Rubio, Allen West, Mia Love and the other young grass root leaders.
Bill,
Go back to that web sight and scroll down, look for it, it’s all there. The only thing is, is that some of this information was taken out of context. I’ve spent the past 3 hours just reading and scanning dod information and training materials. The DEOMI info as described above is inaccurate… Hey Bill, thanks for your service, from one to another.
Frank, I have been Military for 60 years and still actively supporting our military. I just went to the DEOMI website and and have not found the information you are talking about. Please send me this info so I can verify what you are printing. I can’t believe what you have written. Our Veterans will never let this happen.
http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/pentagon-labels-founding-fathers-conservatives-as-extremists.html
Conservatism and liberalism are 2 different political ideaologies. Both have substance and one may be a more practical path for a given situation. It is possible for both to coexist without resorting to childish name-calling, finger-pointing and illegal discriminatory manipulation. We had been doing it for several centuries somewhat successfully. Maybe if the president had had a little more experience before being plopped into the highest office in the land he would have learned this. Maybe not, he hasnt picked up on “The buck stops here” yet.
Keith –
Unfortunately, it’s not a matter of conservative vs. “liberal” [sic]. It’s a matter of Constitutional Conservative vs leftist/collectivist (which includes Communist and other ideologies). These latter ideologues are, like Muslims, not satisfied with allowing other forms of thinking to exist. They refuse to show the merits (if any) of their beliefs, and then leave it up to the freedom of the individual to decide for himself. They believe in rationalization/”the end justifies the means.” They place no bounds on their methods or means to achieve their belief that everyone must think as they do and abide by their rules.
This is not acceptable, not able to be tolerated if you believe that every man should be free to think and live his life as he sees fit (short of forcing his way on others). The two concepts are diametrically-opposed. The collectivist concept is diabolical.
When the SHTF, I’m not too worried about most of our military. It’s the politically appointed, brown-nosed, liberal scum in the Pentagon that worries me. As Gary and Colby might remember, their oath was to support and defend the CONSTITUTION, against all enemies, foreign or DOMESTIC. And that they are legally bound to follow all LEGAL order given them by their superiors. But if the Constitution is the law of the land, and they are order to act against the Constitution, that order is not legal.
I would bet that if the sh!# were to go down tomorrow, almost all the ranks below officer, and most of the lower ranked officers would side with the American people against this corrupt government. That may change over time, a very very long time, but todays military is largely of the conservative mind.
I mean, think about it. Liberals won’t even defend their own personal rights and liberties, you think they would join the military and risk getting shot at to defend the rights and liberties of other. There may be a few, but I bet their all closet conservatives if really pressed.
Sadly, Scott, I’m not so sure about that RE younger officers vs older. I swore an oath to defend the Constitution, yes, but so did every other officer.
If a junior officer would refuse an order, but a senior officer would insist the order was legal, the junior officer would then face court martial and possible dishonorable discharge on grounds of insubordination. It might depend on the attitudes of the senior officers, who might be the more likely to be the jurors in such a case.
I could easily see widespread dissension in the ranks depending on precisely how each officer interprets a particular set of orders relative to the Constitution.
Also, there is a racial part of this too…with the current feelings towards Obama I feel there would be a huge issue white vs black in the military, with the Hispanics doing, who knows what. It would be a huge mess, no matter how things went down.
Keith my man, you have well said, what you have well said..
Papa….
After reading the Best Seller Book “The Harbinger” one can understand why this is happening. We still have a choice to turn this country around, but time may run out if don’t act sooner than later.
I am with gary Norris, I have put in 18 years under oath to protect the constutition of this country, and now I find the enemies to the constutition are domestic. Since we have no power domestically I am getting out, to fight the enemies of The Constutition of the United States of America.
I devoted 24 years, took my oath 7 times and now this! I think our country is in serious trouble…and sitting around hoping for change won’t cut it!